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If you like the sound of the Klipsch, I would stick with them, they will be able to play much more loudly than the Unifi bookshelves with the same power.
Get this for the center:
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It didn't review particular well because of the small woofers in the opinion of the reviewer, anyway. Plus, it costs more.
https://www.klipsch.com/products/r-34c-center-speaker

Ultimately, you need to be happy with what you have. I wouldn't want mis matched speakers, because it would be in the back of my head every time something sounded "wrong" that it might be mis matched speakers. People have different levels of sensitivity to the differences. Like I said, you are not nearly as sensitive to sounds behind you as in front, so it's possible you won't notice the difference if you put the unifi as surrounds. You won't know unless you try it. That being said, I'd ultimately want everything to be matchy matchy myself. My system is 100% Klipsch RP, although I'm going to use a different brand that I had laying around for Atmos since it's just effects.

I guess my point is you could try to mix them, and see how you like it. If you don't like it, make which ever speakers you like best the ones you buy matching speakers for. If you don't have a preference in sound, I'd go Klipsch because they will have more dynamic range and be able to play noticeably louder cleanly than the Elacs with the same power.
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Do not underestimate Atmos' channels.I did that. I tried old Technics surrounds, Jamo's Bookshelves, RP140SA's. I am just happy now I have RP250S' as my Atmos' Day and Night.
RP-250S for Atmos? How?
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Getting my new Pioneer 503 up and running today. I have 9 Klipsch speakers. I also have a second amp, an Emotiva XPA 5.

My plan is to drive my front and side speakers (2 RF 7's, a huge Klispch center speaker and 2 RF 82's on the side) using the Emotiva amp (200 watts per channel). My rear stage is made up of 2 RF 82's and RF 62's.

My rear stage will be driven by the Pioneer 503.


Does this seem right? Are there any reasons to instead have the 503 powering my front stage, and the Emotiva amp powering my rear stage? I could also have my Emotive powering my sides and rear. Of course Klipsch are more sensitive than most speakers but 9 of them will need serious power.


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Getting my new Pioneer 503 up and running today. I have 9 Klipsch speakers. I also have a second amp, an Emotiva XPA 5.

My plan is to drive my front and side speakers (2 RF 7's, a huge Klispch center speaker and 2 RF 82's on the side) using the Emotiva amp (200 watts per channel). My rear stage is made up of 2 RF 82's and RF 62's.

My rear stage will be driven by the Pioneer 503.


Does this seem right? Are there any reasons to instead have the 503 powering my front stage, and the Emotiva amp powering my rear stage? I could also have my Emotive powering my sides and rear. Of course Klipsch are more sensitive than most speakers but 9 of them will need serious power.


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Your original thought is the correct one. The XPA is a MUCH more powerful amp with 200-300 wpc RMS depending on how it's used, while the Pioneer is only 120 wpc RMS, two channels driven. Rear speakers need less power in general
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Currently running a 5.2.2 system. I have the 500sa as front heights.

How are the 500sa as side surround speakers? I'm currently running energy RS3's as a dipole speaker.

My couch is located right against the side wall so my dipoles are very high on the wall(7ft). I know I'm losing the atmos effect as the dipoles are too high. Will the 500sa help as a monopole?

Looking to switch to either the 500sa or 402s. 502s will be too big for the other side. Or should I just drop down the Energy's?

Also will be going with the 600m and 504c soon as well. Especially to get the sound over the couch.

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I see, just bipole (WDST) as Atmos? I think it must be monopole.

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It sounds like you may have the RS-3: https://www.klipsch.com/products/rs-3-surround-speaker {EDIT: I misread the post and if you have the larger speaker in this design it would be the RS-7, which my guess is you don't because they are not very small--I have both}
Sorry for bringing this back up again but some people on Facebook Klipsch site are saying I don't have RS7 or RS3 rear surrounds because on both of those, the copper woofers have black dust caps. Mine are just copper woofers.

Here are some pics. Thanks for anyone's help to identify these rear surrounds!
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Looking to replace an old Boston Acoustics Lynnfield VR 10 center channel with a Klipsch KP 500c based on good reviews and its ability to fit into my Video stand. The only problem is how will it work with my JBL 230 fronts? Ive never owned Klipsch because years back there was lots of talk about Klipsch being overly bright and sibilant which is last thing I need in a center channel in a small room. JBL centers are too large(19 width is most I can fit). Any feedback on my purchase of 500c would be greatly appreciated unless there is something else I should be looking at. Thanks

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Looking to replace an old Boston Acoustics Lynnfield VR 10 center channel with a Klipsch KP 500c based on good reviews and its ability to fit into my Video stand. The only problem is how will it work with my JBL 230 fronts? Ive never owned Klipsch because years back there was lots of talk about Klipsch being overly bright and sibilant which is last thing I need in a center channel in a small room. JBL centers are too large(19 width is most I can fit). Any feedback on my purchase of 500c would be greatly appreciated unless there is something else I should be looking at. Thanks
Buy it from Crutchfield, that way you only pay a small fee to ship it back if you don't like it. Unfortunately, I have no idea how close they are in timbre.
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Sorry for bringing this back up again but some people on Facebook Klipsch site are saying I don't have RS7 or RS3 rear surrounds because on both of those, the copper woofers have black dust caps. Mine are just copper woofers.

Here are some pics. Thanks for anyone's help to identify these rear surrounds!
My guess is that they are either RS-25 (5-1/4in) or RS-35 (6-1/2in).

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I was someone who honestly did not like the Klipsch sound and figured they were just not for me.. I recently spent a good amount of time traveling around listening to speakers, for an upgrade, from Focal - 7xx series, SVS - prime series, Goldenear - Triton (5) series and Paradigm - Premier series.. To my surprise the Klipsch RP series sounded the best, at least to my ears. In the end I ended up with RP-8000F's, RP-504C. RP-500M's for rears..

Anyways just wanted to drop and share my experience for anyone who is considering getting speakers in this price range and like me had a preconceived idea of what Klipsch's sound like..
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Does anyone know how the rp4000f sounds compared to the 5000f? I don't have a sub yet but plan to get one eventually. Wondering if the 5000 is worth the extra couple hundred. Will be using them for movies in a 5.0 setup and 2 ch for music.

I can get the former for $448 a pair or the latter for $748. So quite a price bump. Is it worth it?
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Does anyone know how the rp4000f sounds compared to the 5000f? I don't have a sub yet but plan to get one eventually. Wondering if the 5000 is worth the extra couple hundred. Will be using them for movies in a 5.0 setup and 2 ch for music.

I can get the former for $448 a pair or the latter for $748. So quite a price bump. Is it worth it?
The 4000 - with 4" woofers - is way small for front, I think. (My RP-140SA Atmos speakers have a 4" woofer.) So yes, I vote for the 5000.

RP-4000F: https://f072605def1c9a5ef179-a0bc3fb...-Sheet_v01.pdf

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Does anyone know how the rp4000f sounds compared to the 5000f? I don't have a sub yet but plan to get one eventually. Wondering if the 5000 is worth the extra couple hundred. Will be using them for movies in a 5.0 setup and 2 ch for music.

[redacted] So quite a price bump. Is it worth it?
Buy the 5000F from Sound Distributors, Paducah Home Theater or Acoustic Sound Design. Call or email them. Stop paying full retail for Klipsch speakers.

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The 4000 - with 4" woofers - is way small for front, I think. (My RP-140SA Atmos speakers have a 4" woofer.) So yes, I vote for the 5000.

RP-4000F: https://f072605def1c9a5ef179-a0bc3fb...-Sheet_v01.pdf

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For movies a subwoofer is a must have.

If you are running a sub, the 4000 will be fine
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If you are running a sub, the 4000 will be fine
Depends how loudly you play. Based on my previous experience with other RP speakers is you gain greater ability in the mid bass, even with subwoofers as you go up the food chain.
If you listen at moderate levels, I'm sure that the 4000 will be great.

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I'm building my theater room right now and running wires through walls, will be getting Klipsch for sure. Just wondering what surrounds would be a good choice, something like the RP-500SA that's angled or like the RP-502S but at an ear level. I'll eventually build my way up to 5.1.4 or 7.1.4. It's kind of a small room 20x10x9. Any advice would be appreciated.
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I'm building my theater room right now and running wires through walls, will be getting Klipsch for sure. Just wondering what surrounds would be a good choice, something like the RP-500SA that's angled or like the RP-502S but at an ear level. I'll eventually build my way up to 5.1.4 or 7.1.4. It's kind of a small room 20x10x9. Any advice would be appreciated.
Because the Atmos setup the ear level recommended, so the 500SA not good. If the surrounds are near the listening position the 502S is good, but Dolby recommends monopoles like RP-400M/500M/600M. I use RP-250S (predecessor of 502S) and they are fine in my 5.2.4. I don't know if it could be better or not with monopoles.

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Because the Atmos setup the ear level recommended, so the 500SA not good. If the surrounds are near the listening position the 502S is good, but Dolby recommends monopoles like RP-400M/500M/600M. I use RP-250S (predecessor of 502S) and they are fine in my 5.2.4. I don't know if it could be better or not with monopoles.
Good to know. I want to avoid using monopoles because I wanted to place them higher near the ceiling, unless I could do the same with the monopoles and not at ear level. Are there other options like using in-wall speakers?

Also, I plan to place the Atmos speakers in the ceiling as well.
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Good to know. I want to avoid using monopoles because I wanted to place them higher near the ceiling, unless I could do the same with the monopoles and not at ear level. Are there other options like using in-wall speakers?

Also, I plan to place the Atmos speakers in the ceiling as well.
As I wrote before for Atmos systems the recommended is the ear level, so the "higher near the ceiling" is not a good idea, but if you really want to do that, the 500SA good too, and that is monopole.
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As I wrote before for Atmos systems the recommended is the ear level, so the "higher near the ceiling" is not a good idea, but if you really want to do that, the 500SA good too, and that is monopole.
I see. I will put them at ear level as you suggested. Thanks man!
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I was someone who honestly did not like the Klipsch sound and figured they were just not for me.. I recently spent a good amount of time traveling around listening to speakers, for an upgrade, from Focal - 7xx series, SVS - prime series, Goldenear - Triton (5) series and Paradigm - Premier series.. To my surprise the Klipsch RP series sounded the best, at least to my ears. In the end I ended up with RP-8000F's, RP-504C. RP-500M's for rears..

Anyways just wanted to drop and share my experience for anyone who is considering getting speakers in this price range and like me had a preconceived idea of what Klipsch's sound like..

It depends....Klipsche are the some of the best for Home Theater. For pure music I find them a bit on the sharp side. To the OP, I would try and keep my front stage the same brand/model.
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I was someone who honestly did not like the Klipsch sound and figured they were just not for me.. I recently spent a good amount of time traveling around listening to speakers, for an upgrade, from Focal - 7xx series, SVS - prime series, Goldenear - Triton (5) series and Paradigm - Premier series.. To my surprise the Klipsch RP series sounded the best, at least to my ears. In the end I ended up with RP-8000F's, RP-504C. RP-500M's for rears..

Anyways just wanted to drop and share my experience for anyone who is considering getting speakers in this price range and like me had a preconceived idea of what Klipsch's sound like..
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Gonna stick with the rp4000f for fronts. I already have a pair of r51m's for surround from the sale but I was wondering if it would be noticeable at all if I upgraded them to the rp400m's to better match my front, or does it not really matter since they're surrounds?
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Gonna stick with the rp4000f for fronts. I already have a pair of r51m's for surround from the sale but I was wondering if it would be noticeable at all if I upgraded them to the rp400m's to better match my front, or does it not really matter since they're surrounds?
It depends how sensitive you are to it. Your hearing isn't as sensitive to sounds from behind you, so it's quite possible that you wouldn't notice any difference. I haven't seen anybody directly compare the new RP to the new R, so I have no idea how different or similar the voicing is. I know the RP are less bright than previous non RP models, I'm under the impression the new R are as well, but am not sure.
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Okay thanks. Another question...

I'm having an electrician coming next week to install two in-ceiling speakers for an atmos 5.1.2 setup. My ceiling is quite low. 7 ft exactly. Dolby recommends I believe at least 7 1/2 ft so I'm already below the threshold. To compensate this, I read you want wide-dispersion speakers? is that true? Would the klipsch CDT-5800-C II work?

Or...heard about these RSL C34E speakers. A lot cheaper. Do atmos ceiling speakers really need to be "timber matched" with the rest of my klipsch speakers or would any quality set do?

Any thoughts? The klipsch CDT 5800 2's are $500 a pair. What's that extra money getting me?

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As I wrote before for Atmos systems the recommended is the ear level, so the "higher near the ceiling" is not a good idea, but if you really want to do that, the 500SA good too, and that is monopole.
Can get your opinion. I had a 7.2 system. The 4 surrounds are the RS-62II a few inches below the ceiling (9' tall ceiling) and had installed 4 CDT-5800-CII 8' ATMOS speakers in the ceiling. And from reading what you wrote AND I had visited a Magnolia at Best Buy that had a full ATMOS set up, their surround speakers where on the walls and they played an ATMOS demo and I was like WHAT? it was 10X more immersive than my set up. So I feel that I have to lower mine a lot, but I have everything to spec on the position. the side surround is about 110 degrees, but if I lower the sides it would have to be way in front of the MLP maybe 80 degrees if I have it right at ear level.

I have all klipsch 9.3.4

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