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Friends,
I’m getting a crackle sound from the right-most driver of my RP-450C. Here’s what I’ve tried:

Tightening the connections (banana plugs) on both the speaker and receiver side.
Using a different speaker cable to test the center.
Plugging the center speaker into a LR terminal on the receiver.
Increasing the crossover frequency to over 100 Hz.
Removed the back plate with the connecting posts; wires into board and back of post look fine, though couldn’t confirm solid connection to driver.

I’m not driving the speakers at a high SPL. Source doesn’t seem to matter, though using Netflix / Blu Rays.

Any suggestions on how to proceed? Purchased in early 2019 (IIRC).

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Edit: Purchased early 2018, not 2019.



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Just ordered a pair of RP8000f's to upgrade my 14 year old Synergy F3s. I hope I'm gonna be satisfied. Not sure how they compare. Hope it's a huge upgrade.
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Just ordered a pair of RP8000f's to upgrade my 14 year old Synergy F3s. I hope I'm gonna be satisfied. Not sure how they compare. Hope it's a huge upgrade.
Huge upgrade, you will be very happy with the 8000F.

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Friends,
I’m getting a crackle sound from the right-most driver of my RP-450C. Here’s what I’ve tried:

Tightening the connections (banana plugs) on both the speaker and receiver side.
Using a different speaker cable to test the center.
Plugging the center speaker into a LR terminal on the receiver.
Increasing the crossover frequency to over 100 Hz.
Removed the back plate with the connecting posts; wires into board and back of post look fine, though couldn’t confirm solid connection to driver.

I’m not driving the speakers at a high SPL. Source doesn’t seem to matter, though using Netflix / Blu Rays.

Any suggestions on how to proceed? Purchased in early 2019 (IIRC).

Thanks,
Brendan

Edit: Purchased early 2018, not 2019.



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It sounds like you did all the right steps to pinpoint any problem, except to make sure the wires are connected securely to the speaker itself. Any way to check that out? Are they still under warranty? Even if they aren't, you might try contacting Klipsch Customer Support, they might know of an issue.
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It sounds like you did all the right steps to pinpoint any problem, except to make sure the wires are connected securely to the speaker itself. Any way to check that out? Are they still under warranty? Even if they aren't, you might try contacting Klipsch Customer Support, they might know of an issue.


Thanks, ceptorman, I’ll reach out to Klipsch. I feel like I’d need tiny hands in order to confirm the quality of the connection in the driver itself, which is why I couldn’t.

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What would you guys suggest as side surrounds for a 7.1 system?

At the moment I have a pair of RP-280F at the front with RP-450C as the center. For the rears, I have a pair of RP-160M. Should I match the side surrounds with the rears or is something smaller sufficient like a 150M or 500M?
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I'm really happy with my 502S for surrounds. I would recommend those or the matching 160M/600Ms as your rears.
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I’ve gone back to Audyssey full range for my RP’s. It just seems to help clean things up. The sound is more focused and controlled. I also missed having DEQ on. It’s a must have for movies in my room.
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I'm really happy with my 502S for surrounds. I would recommend those or the matching 160M/600Ms as your rears.
Great, thanks for the suggestion! Time to look for a good deal on 250S/502S!
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Just ordered a pair of RP8000f's to upgrade my 14 year old Synergy F3s. I hope I'm gonna be satisfied. Not sure how they compare. Hope it's a huge upgrade.
Huge upgrade, you will be very happy with the 8000F.

This was a decent upgrade. Just hooked them up last night. Now I feel like I should upgrade my reciever. I have a Pioneer SC 1323-k. Without breaking the bank, any suggestions of what I should get to make sound quality a lot better?
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This was a decent upgrade. Just hooked them up last night. Now I feel like I should upgrade my reciever. I have a Pioneer SC 1323-k. Without breaking the bank, any suggestions of what I should get to make sound quality a lot better?
Amazon for great deals on 2017/2018 model receivers under $1K. Denon X3400H $600, Yamaha RX-A880 $800, Marantz SR5013 $700, any of these would be a good upgrade.

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Hello everyone,


I recently purchased a pair of Klipsch 600m for my left and right channel. I also cleared some space on my entertainment center to allow for a larger center channel. I was possibly looking at the Klipsch rp 504c since I now have the room. Would this center channel overpower the 600ms? Would I be better off getting the 600c?
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This was a decent upgrade. Just hooked them up last night. Now I feel like I should upgrade my reciever. I have a Pioneer SC 1323-k. Without breaking the bank, any suggestions of what I should get to make sound quality a lot better?
You should check the Marantz SR6013, I think this is the cheapest 9.2 (€800 in EU), but a quite good receiver.

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I recently purchased a pair of Klipsch 600m for my left and right channel. I also cleared some space on my entertainment center to allow for a larger center channel. I was possibly looking at the Klipsch rp 504c since I now have the room. Would this center channel overpower the 600ms? Would I be better off getting the 600c?


Many people use that same setup. I have the 600m with the previous large center the 450c. And it's not overpowering at all. They go great together.

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Dump question from a newbie,

How center speaker with sub only will perform in TV and movies compared to soundbar

For example

Klipsch RP-404C +
Klipsch R-120SW Subwoofer

With decent AVR?
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Hello Guys,
I'm a new user of Klipsch still enjoying a lot of my new system (Denon AVR-X3200, Klipsch Rp-280F, RP450C, Rp250S, RP140SA, R115SW). I was wondering did you get a "chest punch" which your R115SW?
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Hello Guys,
I'm a new user of Klipsch still enjoying a lot of my new system (Denon AVR-X3200, Klipsch Rp-280F, RP450C, Rp250S, RP140SA, R115SW). I was wondering did you get a "chest punch" which your R115SW?
Thanks!
Yes, I get it - if I want. But I can get that with only the fronts too in "pure mode". It depends on the room size, speaker placement and on the settings (and on the movie too), I think. With the R-115SW - and with that power - you should be able to demolish the house.

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I got a pair of RP280F, an two R10swi subs got the towers two months ago, and the subs last week. Best speakers I've ever owned. Oh an a Denon AVR.
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Yes, I get it - if I want. But I can get that with only the fronts too in "pure mode". It depends on the room size, speaker placement and on the settings (and on the movie too), I think. With the R-115SW - and with that power - you should be able to demolish the house.
What is your setup? Can you send some pictures? (did you mean pure/pure direct setup on the amplifier?)
Thanks for the response.
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What is your setup? Can you send some pictures? (did you mean pure/pure direct setup on the amplifier?)
Thanks for the response.
Below this - in my signature - you can see my setup and here are 2 links to my earlier posts with 3 photos (if you read back this thread, you can find some more):
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Yes pure direct mode on AVR. If your speaker stands in the "middle of the room" it sounds soft and lack of bass, but the other end, if you put in a corner maybe it's too much. So you have to play with it. Mines are 1<>2 feet from all walls ATM.

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Below this - in my signature - you can see my setup and here are 2 links to my earlier posts with 3 photos (if you read back this thread, you can find some more):
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Yes pure direct mode on AVR. If your speaker stands in the "middle of the room" it sounds soft and lack of bass, but the other end, if you put in a corner maybe it's too much. So you have to play with it. Mines are 1<>2 feet from all walls ATM.
Thanks a lot! Did you achieve the same effect with one subwoofer how big difference is one vs two? I'm considering a second one but I can not find a lot of articles comparing one vs two. I checked today at my place Dolby surround sounds better than pure (at least on one movie which I checked/)
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Thanks a lot! Did you achieve the same effect with one subwoofer how big difference is one vs two? I'm considering a second one but I can not find a lot of articles comparing one vs two. I checked today at my place Dolby surround sounds better than pure (at least on one movie which I checked/)
Pure direct mode is for Music with only the Fronts (maybe with subwoofer). This turn them to LARGE, so no crossover - full range!

With 1 subwoofer you will always feel/hear where the effect came from (left or right side, where the subwoofer is). With the 2. subwoofer, everything got balanced. Otherwise the sound is great with 1 or 2 subwwofers too. And you get twice the power (maybe more, maybe less ).

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Im on the fence between purchasing the Klipsch RP 5000f vs. The Klipsch RP 6000F for use as fronts on a 5.1.2 surround system. My main question is will my Yamaha RX V681 receiver provide enough power to run the speakers? Would I be better off with the smaller 5000F towers or does my receiver provide enough power to run either the 5000 or the 6000 Towers? Is there much of a sonic difference between the 5000 and the 6000? Im going to be running an SVS SB 1000 subwoofer with whatever model of Klipsch towers I purchase. Thanks for your help.

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Im on the fence between purchasing the Klipsch RP 5000f vs. The Klipsch RP 6000F for use as fronts on a 5.1.2 surround system. My main question is will my Yamaha RX V681 receiver provide enough power to run the speakers? Would I be better off with the smaller 5000F towers or does my receiver provide enough power to run either the 5000 or the 6000 Towers? Is there much of a sonic difference between the 5000 and the 6000? Im going to be running an SVS SB 1000 subwoofer with whatever model of Klipsch towers I purchase. Thanks for your help.
The main difference between the two is that the bigger one will play with a little more authority in the bass. Probably sound pretty much the same except at louder volumes. If you have the room, I'd recommend going with the previous generation RP-280f on clearance at Crutchfield(and presumably other internet resellers). These are the equivalent of the RP8000f. To me, when I compared them to the RP-260f(similar to the 6000f), I found they handled loud bass a bit better, and they will play slightly louder than the others with the same power.
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Even though it's not intuitive, your Yamaha will actually power the bigger speakers more easily, as they are more efficient. So, the RP280f will actually play slightly louder than the 2 you mentioned driven by your Yamaha.
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Thanks for your help.Im aware of the too bright issue Klipsch had with older speakers that has now been fixed.Would you know if the Rp 280F has that older too bright reputation that seems to show up in Klipsch threads? thanks again

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Thanks for your help.Im aware of the too bright issue Klipsch had with older speakers that has now been fixed.Would you know if the Rp 280F has that older too bright reputation that seems to show up in Klipsch threads? thanks again
The RP line was never bright.
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Thanks for your help.Im aware of the too bright issue Klipsch had with older speakers that has now been fixed.Would you know if the Rp 280F has that older too bright reputation that seems to show up in Klipsch threads? thanks again
The RP series is where they toned that down, so the RP280f(which I have) doesn't have that problem, that's why I'm recommending it. The first RP series also reviewed quite well, and I suspect(don't know, haven't heard any of the new ones) that most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
I also have the previous version, RF-82 II, which was MUCH brighter.
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I'm a new user of Klipsch still enjoying a lot of my new system (Denon AVR-X3200, Klipsch Rp-280F, RP450C, Rp250S, RP140SA, R115SW). I was wondering did you get a "chest punch" which your R115SW?
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You know the chest punch depends on where the bass is in the music and where your cross over is set between the R115SW and the fronts. So then it depends on the music.
My cross over is at 40, so most of the chest punch is from the left and right in most music and the RF7's handle that quite well.
In Pure Direct Stereo Mode there is no signal at all going to subs. At least with a Marantz.


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I was playing with my toe angle on my RP8000Fs last night. Where do you all like it. Directly at the MLP or straight into the room or something completely different? On one of the Audioholics videos they were talking about having them cross in front of the MLP. I gave that a shot and didn't like it.

There's something about these speakers that make me want to keep listening to them even when I shouldn't be. Last night I was just going to play with the toe for a just a little bit. I figured I could spend 30mins or so before going to bed. It was already pretty late. Next thing I know, it's 2:30am and I am still up listening to music.
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In Pure Direct Stereo Mode there is no signal at all going to subs. At least with a Marantz.
I had a Marantz SR6011 and that has 3 mode for PURE Audio >>> Direct - Pure Direct - Auto mode; And with Auto mode it used the subs.

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