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Hey guys. Got my RP8000F and RP504C in today and dumped the Polk Audio Monitor 50s. Currently working on setting the crossover for them. Using some music as a test at the moment and with the current volume of the sub which is a little under half they seem to be holding their own and it’s pretty impressive when in full band. If I go direct and just do 2.0 they are pretty nice but I’m trying to find the best way to have them permanently. I’m reading all sorts of different things and even from SVS and Onkyo that large tower speakers with 8-10 inch woofers should be set to large. The current sub I have is a Klipsch 12 inch with a Bash300s amp. The original amp got murdered by a lightning strike years ago. The sub dominated the polks but at the current settings it’s not nearly as over powering. I haven’t done much with the center yet and that’s at 80hz. Should also mention I’m running an Onkyo TXNR646 at the moment. I’m going to get an rew mic to check it out from a neighbor and he recently tested the room and it was good for bass response and only needed a few tweaks. Curious to see how it tests now with the RP speakers. I’m sure it’s going to be based on the room but what do you guys have them set to that have them?
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It really depends on your budget. If you want new, AcousticSoundDesign.com always has great deals. You will need to email or call to find out the discounted price.
Thanks for the response. I don't really care new vs old. I just want them to be good speakers that I can use a long time. I have found some used R-26 towers for $400/pair but I have read mixed reviews on them. Is the new Reference series that Best Buy currently has in stock that much better than others (R-820F, R-34C, R-120 SW)? I'm just looking for some recommendations for towers, center speaker, and sub.
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Hey guys. Got my RP8000F and RP504C in today and dumped the Polk Audio Monitor 50s. Currently working on setting the crossover for them. Using some music as a test at the moment and with the current volume of the sub which is a little under half they seem to be holding their own and it’s pretty impressive when in full band. If I go direct and just do 2.0 they are pretty nice but I’m trying to find the best way to have them permanently. I’m reading all sorts of different things and even from SVS and Onkyo that large tower speakers with 8-10 inch woofers should be set to large. The current sub I have is a Klipsch 12 inch with a Bash300s amp. The original amp got murdered by a lightning strike years ago. The sub dominated the polks but at the current settings it’s not nearly as over powering. I haven’t done much with the center yet and that’s at 80hz. Should also mention I’m running an Onkyo TXNR646 at the moment. I’m going to get an rew mic to check it out from a neighbor and he recently tested the room and it was good for bass response and only needed a few tweaks. Curious to see how it tests now with the RP speakers. I’m sure it’s going to be based on the room but what do you guys have them set to that have them?
I set the crossover for all of my speakers to 80 hz and let the sub do everything below. I used to set my mains to large, but after doing a lot of research and testing, I found 80 hz to be optimal. I use my speakers 100% for HT in a multichannel setup.

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I plan on going Atmos in the future. At the moment I am at 5.1, soon to be 7.1. Eventually I'd want to go 7.1.4 with the 4 Atmos being in-ceiling. Would the in-ceilings clash with the higher mounted 250s?

I'd just imagine that the separation wouldn't be that great. Surround speakers paired with atmos are recommended as close as possible to ear level to get that true surround feel with atmos tracks.






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Hey guys. Got my RP8000F and RP504C in today and dumped the Polk Audio Monitor 50s. Currently working on setting the crossover for them. Using some music as a test at the moment and with the current volume of the sub which is a little under half they seem to be holding their own and it’s pretty impressive when in full band. If I go direct and just do 2.0 they are pretty nice but I’m trying to find the best way to have them permanently. I’m reading all sorts of different things and even from SVS and Onkyo that large tower speakers with 8-10 inch woofers should be set to large. The current sub I have is a Klipsch 12 inch with a Bash300s amp. The original amp got murdered by a lightning strike years ago. The sub dominated the polks but at the current settings it’s not nearly as over powering. I haven’t done much with the center yet and that’s at 80hz. Should also mention I’m running an Onkyo TXNR646 at the moment. I’m going to get an rew mic to check it out from a neighbor and he recently tested the room and it was good for bass response and only needed a few tweaks. Curious to see how it tests now with the RP speakers. I’m sure it’s going to be based on the room but what do you guys have them set to that have them?
Just finished testing my 504c with REW and umik-1 in my living room. I have now set the xo to 60hz.

I typically set all to 80hz and let the subs take over. But with the 504c, something was off. After much testing and moving the center forwards, backwards, changing xo from 80-40, approx 20 tests... 60hz close to the wall ended up being the best for my room.

Played Godzilla KOM and holy crap what a difference after setting them with REW.

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B&W 603 vs. Klipsch RP-8000F

For music and movies.

What do you guys think?
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B&W 603 vs. Klipsch RP-8000F

For music and movies.

What do you guys think?
Can you test them out? Best Buy? I tested the B&W 606 vs the RP 600m.

I loved the B&W, if money wasn't tight I would have got them. But the 600m was very close, just lacked a little something. Can't really describe it as its super subjective anyways.

In the end price won out, I got the rp600m's and a RP 450c for the price of the 606's. If money didn't matter in your case I would personally go with B&W. Just get them at best buy and you can easily return.

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Hey guys. Got my RP8000F and RP504C in today and dumped the Polk Audio Monitor 50s. Currently working on setting the crossover for them. Using some music as a test at the moment and with the current volume of the sub which is a little under half they seem to be holding their own and it’s pretty impressive when in full band. If I go direct and just do 2.0 they are pretty nice but I’m trying to find the best way to have them permanently. I’m reading all sorts of different things and even from SVS and Onkyo that large tower speakers with 8-10 inch woofers should be set to large. The current sub I have is a Klipsch 12 inch with a Bash300s amp. The original amp got murdered by a lightning strike years ago. The sub dominated the polks but at the current settings it’s not nearly as over powering. I haven’t done much with the center yet and that’s at 80hz. Should also mention I’m running an Onkyo TXNR646 at the moment. I’m going to get an rew mic to check it out from a neighbor and he recently tested the room and it was good for bass response and only needed a few tweaks. Curious to see how it tests now with the RP speakers. I’m sure it’s going to be based on the room but what do you guys have them set to that have them?
Since you only have one sub which has about the same -3db point as the towers (30-36hz range) running your towers as large could provide a nice boost in bass.

I run my RF62IIs as large most of the time even with 2 subs in a smaller room. The only time I set them with a crossover is when watching bass heavy action movies or extra loud music. At lower volumes setting them to large helps fill the "wall" of bass up front.

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Since you only have one sub which has about the same -3db point as the towers (30-36hz range) running your towers as large could provide a nice boost in bass.

I run my RF62IIs as large most of the time even with 2 subs in a smaller room. The only time I set them with a crossover is when watching bass heavy action movies or extra loud music. At lower volumes setting them to large helps fill the "wall" of bass up front.
What are your thoughts on RP 260F large versus small? I'm using a R112SW and RC 62ii Center in a pretty large room (~18'x36' but with the end where the TV is open on one side; shotgun style all the way to the living room then onto kitchen)

Currently have the Fronts/Center @ 80hz - Surrounds at 100hz and Atmos at 150hz
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What are your thoughts on RP 260F large versus small? I'm using a R112SW and RC 62ii Center in a pretty large room (~18'x36' but with the end where the TV is open on one side; shotgun style all the way to the living room then onto kitchen)

Currently have the Fronts/Center @ 80hz - Surrounds at 100hz and Atmos at 150hz
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That's up to you. Try it and hear for yourself. I'm not one to buy mics and measure anything. I just go by how it sounds or feels. When not running full range I use 100 or 120hz on the towers and always use 120hz on the center and surrounds. It works well in my room with those setttings.

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I have the RP-280F (along with other RPs 5.1.4). It's dedicated room, it sounds fine, it's crossover at 80hz with a JTR. but I am craving for bigger sound for L R.
Does Klipsch have something with a bigger woofer? or physically bigger?

I thought about a second pair of the same in the front but I always thought the sound would cancel out each other.
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I have the RP-280F (along with other RPs 5.1.4). It's dedicated room, it sounds fine, it's crossover at 80hz with a JTR. but I am craving for bigger sound for L R.
Does Klipsch have something with a bigger woofer? or physically bigger?

I thought about a second pair of the same in the front but I always thought the sound would cancel out each other.
Klipsch RF7 III. You'll have to go pro style speakers to get any more volume. I don't pretend to know all the ends and outs of the problems with what you suggest, but at the least it will mess with the imaging to double up speakers.
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I have the RP-280F (along with other RPs 5.1.4). It's dedicated room, it sounds fine, it's crossover at 80hz with a JTR. but I am craving for bigger sound for L R.
Does Klipsch have something with a bigger woofer? or physically bigger?

I thought about a second pair of the same in the front but I always thought the sound would cancel out each other.
Klipsch RF7 III. You'll have to go pro style speakers to get any more volume. I don't pretend to know all the ends and outs of the problems with what you suggest, but at the least it will mess with the imaging to double up speakers.
https://www.klipsch.com/products/rf-...anding-speaker
I feel the 280 height is perfect now with atmos and I don’t want any taller speakers. Can I add a pair of subs for LR? Maybe 10” or 12” to boost the midrange bass.
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I feel the 280 height is perfect now with atmos and I don’t want any taller speakers. Can I add a pair of subs for LR? Maybe 10” or 12” to boost the midrange bass.
More subs would help flatten out your bass response, which in turn would give you some better mid bass. However, if you are craving a fuller sound from your front L&R, there really isn’t another way than going to the RF-7’s. I upgraded for the same reasons and while the speakers are big and heavy, it was worth every penny and then some.

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More subs would help flatten out your bass response, which in turn would give you some better mid bass. However, if you are craving a fuller sound from your front L&R, there really isn’t another way than going to the RF-7’s. I upgraded for the same reasons and while the speakers are big and heavy, it was worth every penny and then some.
What is your crossover set at for the RF7s?
Big price jump for sure, but I asked first.
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What is your crossover set at for the RF7s?
Big price jump for sure, but I asked first.
I cross them over at 80 hz along with the rest of my speakers.

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With all the recent talk about crossovers and the best setup, I’ve included a link below that goes into depth on the best setup for your full range towers and other speakers in your systems.

https://bobpariseau.com/blog/2018/6/...ss-begins-here
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With all the recent talk about crossovers and the best setup, I’ve included a link below that goes into depth on the best setup for your full range towers and other speakers in your systems.

https://bobpariseau.com/blog/2018/6/...ss-begins-here
And I'll share one as well that I've found invaluable.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-subwoofers-bass-transducers/2958528-guide-subwoofer-calibration-bass-preferences.html
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Nice article @jconjason ! There is some really informative stuff in there! I like it, man (in John Gruden voice)!
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Would there be an issue using a 280F as a center with a pair of 8000Fs as L/R? I've got the space now to upgrade from a horizontal center to a full tower and it seems like I can save some cash going with the 280 vs a third 8000.

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