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No way to know for sure until you get it into your room and try it out. Both the 504c and 64-III will give you what you’re looking for. For best results, they need to be paired with Klipsch towers, but it may sound fine with your KEF’s.
Thanks again Tom, i'm going to give 504c a spin then if i'm satisfied, i'll upgrade to RC-64 III (or IV if coming ?) during winter sales.
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So some reference speakers are 50% off at Best Buy for black Friday.

Is the R-820F a good deal at $250 each? People usually say reference is the bottom of the barrel for Klipsch, ewww! But is it really that bad? I am guessing the matching center is the C-52.

I was also looking at the RP-8000F and thats only around $500 each (so 2x the price) on ebay.
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So some reference speakers are 50% off at Best Buy for black Friday.



Is the R-820F a good deal at $250 each? People usually say reference is the bottom of the barrel for Klipsch, ewww! But is it really that bad? I am guessing the matching center is the C-52.



I was also looking at the RP-8000F and thats only around $500 each (so 2x the price) on ebay.
Look at frys OPEN BOX sale:

Rp 8000f is $399
Rp 6000f is $329
Rp 5000f is $239
Rp 4000f is $199

Great deals if they're in great shape.


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Look at frys OPEN BOX sale:

Rp 8000f is $399
Rp 6000f is $329
Rp 5000f is $239
Rp 4000f is $199

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So some reference speakers are 50% off at Best Buy for black Friday.

Is the R-820F a good deal at $250 each? People usually say reference is the bottom of the barrel for Klipsch, ewww! But is it really that bad? I am guessing the matching center is the C-52.

I was also looking at the RP-8000F and thats only around $500 each (so 2x the price) on ebay.
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Has anyone messed with the R-51PM's? Seem like a quick solution for external 2.0 for a simple living room setup.
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I originally post this as a separate thread, but figured I'd ask here so I could get the opinion of Klipsch owners.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...os-system.html

My setup will be 5.1.4+2. The +2 will be the kitchen which is directly behind the main listening area. I only plan on the second listening area as Stereo audio (set up as room two).

L/R: Klipsch RP-4000F
Cen: Klipsch RP-404C
Sub: Klipsch RP-100SW
Height: Klipsch CDT-3650-C (x4 In-Ceiling)
Surrounds: ???
Room+: Klipsch CDT-3650-C (x2 In-Ceiling)

My question is about the surrounds. They will be wall mounted parallel to the main listener. (column jutting out on left and front edge of wall on the right). I've attached a room photo and a second photo facing the opposite direction toward the kitchen. Do you think think Klipsch RP-402S or RP-500SA would be best for my situation?(Wide-dispersion vs directional)

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attac...2&d=1573037650
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attac...0&d=1573039465

Edit: The surrounds may end up being located slightly behind the main listening area if that changes things.
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I originally post this as a separate thread, but figured I'd ask here so I could get the opinion of Klipsch owners.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...os-system.html

My setup will be 5.1.4+2. The +2 will be the kitchen which is directly behind the main listening area. I only plan on the second listening area as Stereo audio (set up as room two).

L/R: Klipsch RP-4000F
Cen: Klipsch RP-404C
Sub: Klipsch RP-100SW
Height: Klipsch CDT-3650-C (x4 In-Ceiling)
Surrounds: ???
Room+: Klipsch CDT-3650-C (x2 In-Ceiling)

My question is about the surrounds. They will be wall mounted parallel to the main listener. (column jutting out on left and front edge of wall on the right). I've attached a room photo and a second photo facing the opposite direction toward the kitchen. Do you think think Klipsch RP-402S or RP-500SA would be best for my situation?(Wide-dispersion vs directional)

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attac...2&d=1573037650
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attac...0&d=1573039465

Edit: The surrounds may end up being located slightly behind the main listening area if that changes things.
I think you should do the directional, since it'll be a lower profile speaker and still give you plenty of surround content to enjoy.
Additionally, since the back of your room is not enclosed, the WDST I think will produce some undesired, delayed reflections coming out of the kitchen.

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Hi Guys, just wanted to ask a quick question

R-820F vs the old RF-82 II How do they compare? Are they basically the same? Any reason to go one way or the other?

And unfortunately Fry's doesn't have any open box RP's :-(

I'm asking because I got some rf 82 iis but they were actually damaged and now I get to pick something else..I'm told they are pretty much the same overall..is that accurate?

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If my main focus is 100% video, is klipsch a good choice or is something else better? Im not going to use the speaker for music/audio listening at all. Im looking at the RP-600M and RP-404C or 504C to be powered by a Denon X3500H.
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If my main focus is 100% video, is klipsch a good choice or is something else better? Im not going to use the speaker for music/audio listening at all. Im looking at the RP-600M and RP-404C or 504C to be powered by a Denon X3500H.
IMO...excellent choices for video. However, to enjoy, appreciate, and experience today’s blockbuster action movies, serious consideration should also be given for an addition of a subwoofer.
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Hi Guys, just wanted to ask a quick question



R-820F vs the old RF-82 II How do they compare? Are they basically the same? Any reason to go one way or the other?



And unfortunately Fry's doesn't have any open box RP's :-(



I'm asking because I got some rf 82 iis but they were actually damaged and now I get to pick something else..I'm told they are pretty much the same overall..is that accurate?
I have 820F in my garage to try out tomorrow

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I have 820F in my garage to try out tomorrow

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IMO...excellent choices for video. However, to enjoy, appreciate, and experience today’s blockbuster action movies, serious consideration should also be given for an addition of a subwoofer.
I am actually using a single SVS PC12 Ultra (no more space to add more). Thanks.
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I am actually using a single SVS PC12 Ultra (no more space to add more). Thanks.
Again...excellent...nothing left to recommend...other than to enjoy!
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Anyone knows if Klipsch is going to release any new series for 2020 since prices are dropping on almost all of their models ?
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What would be a better center speaker for me if I would get the RP-600M fronts to be powered by a Denon X3500H and I have an SVS PC12 Ultra subs? Do i get the Klipsch RP-504C or the RP-600C ? (note: main focus is movies/video - 100% via netflix on a 17sqm bedroom)
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What would be a better center speaker for me if I would get the RP-600M fronts to be powered by a Denon X3500H and I have an SVS PC12 Ultra subs? Do i get the Klipsch RP-504C or the RP-600C ? (note: main focus is movies/video - 100% via netflix on a 17sqm bedroom)
I have no personal experience with either but here are opinions of others who have...

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...an-rp504c.html

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What would be a better center speaker for me if I would get the RP-600M fronts to be powered by a Denon X3500H and I have an SVS PC12 Ultra subs? Do i get the Klipsch RP-504C or the RP-600C ? (note: main focus is movies/video - 100% via netflix on a 17sqm bedroom)
I have the 600m's and 504c running off a denon 3400h. I also have 2 hsu vtf-3 mk5's. This setup is fantastic!

I was also debating the 600c vs the 504c. I went through over 1000's of posts here researching which was better. Also joined the FB Klipsch Owners Group and asked questions over there. There are members that have gone from the 600c to the 504c and say there are is no comparison. This swayed my opinion. Always buy the best center and subs you can afford. Your sub is great, if you can afford it, and have the room, buy the 504c. The 504c is a HUGE center.

My ratings on the Current Klipsch Center speakers goes:
1) RC 64iii
2) RP 504c
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4) RP 404c
5) RP 500c

I know Klipsch ranks the 404c over the 600c, but I would never want 4" drivers for a center channel. But, 4x 4" drivers do beat 2x 5.25".

- 4 5.25" drivers beat 2 6" drivers. Timbre matching is perfect to the 600m's, as I have used REW/Umik and the Denon Multi EQ mobile to confirm.

With your svs sub and the 600m/504c combo, you will be very pleased.

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So now that I've got the core of my HT setup done I am looking at what to work towards next on the system side.

What are everyone's thoughts on most bang for buck upgrade:

1) Going from RP 260F to the RP8000
2) Adding another R112SW or swapping to a bigger 15" sub
3) adding a 3 channel amp for my RP260F and RP504C

Bulk of my viewing is 4K Blu-rays/Streamed Content/DTV

thanks

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I mean I see some of the II being discounted probably as an old stock clearance. But does the current model get discounted sometimes?
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So now that I've got the core of my HT setup done I am looking at what to work towards next on the system side.

What are everyone's thoughts on most bang for buck upgrade:

1) Going from RP 260F to the RP8000
2) Adding another R112SW or swapping to a bigger 15" sub
3) adding a 3 channel amp for my RP260F and RP504C

Bulk of my viewing is 4K Blu-rays/Streamed Content/DTV

thanks
Another or better subwoofer. If you aren't noticing any strained sounds from your speakers, I would definitely add more subwoofer.
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So now that I've got the core of my HT setup done I am looking at what to work towards next on the system side.

What are everyone's thoughts on most bang for buck upgrade:

1) Going from RP 260F to the RP8000
2) Adding another R112SW or swapping to a bigger 15" sub
3) adding a 3 channel amp for my RP260F and RP504C

Bulk of my viewing is 4K Blu-rays/Streamed Content/DTV

thanks
If you cut the front at 80Hz maybe you won't notice the change with the RP-8000, but it's bigger/stronger and on music with pure mode it's very powerful (if you have large room can be handy).
I vote for "Add another R112SW". The R-115 goes slightly deeper, but slower and the 2 R-112 have more power together.
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Another or better subwoofer. If you aren't noticing any strained sounds from your speakers, I would definitely add more subwoofer.
From what I've seen most people recommend doing something other than Klipsch for subs, yea?

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So now that I've got the core of my HT setup done I am looking at what to work towards next on the system side.

What are everyone's thoughts on most bang for buck upgrade:

1) Going from RP 260F to the RP8000
2) Adding another R112SW or swapping to a bigger 15" sub
3) adding a 3 channel amp for my RP260F and RP504C

Bulk of my viewing is 4K Blu-rays/Streamed Content/DTV

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From what I've seen most people recommend doing something other than Klipsch for subs, yea?
1) 260 - 8000f? Negligible.. 8000 does have better tweeter and you'll timbre match the 504c. But bass wise, it's all on your subs anyways. The 2x 6.5" should be plenty for movies.

2) Yes another sub. Look at the spl120, it has the better (supposed to be non failing) amp

3) What are you running now? Unless your looking to be louder, dont see this as a best bang for your buck.

- People are moving away from the Klipsch subs. Yes they're beautiful, but with the amp failing issues, it has given them a bad name. So many good subs out there from PSA, HSU, SVS, Ryhtmik, that I would consider before the Klipsch.

But matching your subs is also important and makes things easier to gain and level match.

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If you cut the front at 80Hz maybe you won't notice the change with the RP-8000, but it's bigger/stronger and on music with pure mode it's very powerful (if you have large room can be handy).
I vote for "Add another R11SW". The R-115 goes slightly deeper, but slower and the 2 R-112 have more power together.
Yea I currently have the fronts/center cut at 80hz / surrounds at 110hz / Atmos at 150hz

What about the SPL-150SW? Frys has a pretty good deal on that right now; but I'm assuming I shouldn't run that with my existing R-112 it would need to be stand alone?

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1) 260 - 8000f? Negligible.. 8000 does have better tweeter and you'll timbre match the 504c. But bass wise, it's all on your subs anyways. The 2x 6.5" should be plenty for movies.

2) Yes another sub. Look at the spl120, it has the better (supposed to be non failing) amp

3) What are you running now? Unless your looking to be louder, dont see this as a best bang for your buck.

- People are moving away from the Klipsch subs. Yes they're beautiful, but with the amp failing issues, it has given them a bad name. So many good subs out there from PSA, HSU, SVS, Ryhtmik, that I would consider before the Klipsch.

But matching your subs is also important and makes things easier to gain and level match.

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Just posted above but there is a good deal on an SPL-150 but money might be best spent on another brand from what I'm seeing.

I currently am driving the 5.1.4 off my X4500H only - Don't really need much louder now as my wife already gives me the evil eye listening at -25 dB hah

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Just posted above but there is a good deal on an SPL-150 but money might be best spent on another brand from what I'm seeing.



I currently am driving the 5.1.4 off my X4500H only - Don't really need much louder now as my wife already gives me the evil eye listening at -25 dB hah
4500x is a sweet unit. No reason to upgrade to amps, especially playing at -25.(movies I run at -10, -25 is what I use at night!lol)

Spl150 is a good sub. Going with a 12" and a 15" is tricky. I did it recently with an old def tech 12" and a new hsu 15". Takes time to get the gains, spl, and time aligned. Audyssey on your 4500x will get you in the ballpark. The 2 subs of diff sizes will still be better than running 1 if you take the time and match them the best you can.

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Yea I currently have the fronts/center cut at 80hz / surrounds at 110hz / Atmos at 150hz

What about the SPL-150SW? Frys has a pretty good deal on that right now; but I'm assuming I shouldn't run that with my existing R-112 it would need to be stand alone?
SPL-150 is the successor of R-115SW like SPL-120 is the successor of R-112SW.

I still say you get better sound with 2x R-112SW (or 2xSPL-120), but you can get one SPL-150 if that's not too big for you (and good deal). These are good Klipsch subs, but keep in mind they are loud. I had R-115SW but it was too huge for my room. I still have 2x R-112SW and they are excellent, but too loud for us. We usually watch movies night (-35dB) and if an action scene happen the subs were loud. If I turned down the subwoofers, the bass was missing. So with enough bass it was loud. I hope you get how I mean. So a few weeks ago I bought 2 SVS SB12-NSD. Now I get the great bass and a smoother sound even on action scenes. If you like your single R-112SW then you will love the second!

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SPL-150 is the successor of R-115SW like SPL-120 is the successor of R-112SW.

I still say you get better sound with 2x R-112SW (or 2xSPL-120), but you can get one SPL-150 if that's not too big for you (and good deal). These are good Klipsch subs, but keep in mind they are loud. I had R-115SW but it was too huge for my room. I still have 2x R-112SW and they are excellent, but too loud for us. We usually watch movies night (-35dB) and if an action scene happen the subs were loud. If I turned down the subwoofers, the bass was missing. So with enough bass it was loud. I hope you get how I mean. So a few weeks ago I bought 2 SVS SB12-NSD. Now I get the great bass and a smoother sound even on action scenes. If you like your single R-112SW then you will love the second!
Perfect! Yea I am wondering if the SPL-150 might be too big, the room itself is very large (16' wide x 36' long - with the side the setup is on opening up to another huge room (living room + kitchen).
I am in the same boat where I feel like my current sub is too loud sometimes but not loud enough other times, if that makes sense. I just watched Kong Skull Island last night and the opening scene where they see Kong and he slams his fists down sounded amazing, however later scenes with the choppers/Kong sounded like they weren't as loud/impactful as they should be.

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Perfect! Yea I am wondering if the SPL-150 might be too big, the room itself is very large (16' wide x 36' long - with the side the setup is on opening up to another huge room (living room + kitchen).

I am in the same boat where I feel like my current sub is too loud sometimes but not loud enough other times, if that makes sense. I just watched Kong Skull Island last night and the opening scene where they see Kong and he slams his fists down sounded amazing, however later scenes with the choppers/Kong sounded like they weren't as loud/impactful as they should be.
16x36x9? With openings to other rooms and hallways? That's easily over 5000ft3. That's a huge space to pressurize!

I would really recommend 2x spl150's if you plan to stay with Klipsch. You can always turn them down.

My room is 3000ft3 with 2x vtf-3's. It also has openings to other rooms and hallways. My subs gain is at 9 o'clock and avr trim is at -4. And it shakes my the heck out of my couch(which I love). My wife says she doesn't, but when the bass hits, I see a smile...lol. There's still plenty of room to turn them down or up. Your room is way bigger than mine and would expect bigger subs with more output to be necessary.

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