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Which are the differences between klipsch rs41, rp140 and the 250s? For surround use. The place its small and the speakers are going to place on the corners of the rooms (up)
My setup is jamo c93, klipsch rc62II and klipsch r10sw

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Got these RP-250S today
way heaver than i though they would be but lovely build quality.

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Im replacing my entire system with Klipsch speakers. However I forgot I have an old Harmon Kardon HKB 12 long throw sub. I plan on running 2 subs and honestly don't think running 2 different subs would be a problem at all, other than looks. They'll both be out of view. Anyone else ever run 2 different subs? I figure it is no different than having different speakers.
While not impossible, it will be a lot of work to get them both working in harmony. It’s really preferrable to be running two of the same subwoofers.

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While not impossible, it will be a lot of work to get them both working in harmony. It’s really preferrable to be running two of the same subwoofers.
WAS YOU EVER RIGHT!!!!!!!!!! Holy Cow!! I almost never got them both dialed in..LOL..They are night and day different
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Is there any concern with matching sound output when there's a difference in spacing/volume behind each speaker? In my current setup speaker A is more open to the attic than speaker B.



Also, the heat tolerance for the CDT-5650-C II is 114°F. Since it gets pretty hot here in Florida during the summer months I suspect the temperature in attic reaches or exceeds that number quite easily even though its properly ventilated according to code. With that said, should I use some kind of thermal covering other than fiberglass batt insulation to prevent heat damage? Any other particular suggestions? Now according to Klipsch technical support these speakers are designed not to be covered at all but rather installed completely open to the attic or between floors. Backer boxes of any kind are also ill advised by Klipsch for this particular speaker unless its absolutely necessary to keep the sound from bleeding into an adjacent room. So I guess my options are pretty limited.
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Is there any concern with matching sound output when there's a difference in spacing/volume behind each speaker? In my current setup speaker A is more open to the attic than speaker B.



Also, the heat tolerance for the CDT-5650-C II is 114°F. Since it gets pretty hot here in Florida during the summer months I suspect the temperature in attic reaches or exceeds that number quite easily even though its properly ventilated according to code. With that said, should I use some kind of thermal covering other than fiberglass batt insulation to prevent heat damage? Any other particular suggestions? Now according to Klipsch technical support these speakers are designed not to be covered at all but rather installed completely open to the attic or between floors. Backer boxes of any kind are also ill advised by Klipsch for this particular speaker unless its absolutely necessary to keep the sound from bleeding into an adjacent room. So I guess my options are pretty limited.
Don't put anything around them, and clear out insulation around them a foot or so, run em'. As far as those speaker locations are concerned, the air space each will load into is infinite. If they each had a 10 cu.ft. box it would essentially be free air. Long story short, your good to go.

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Cross post.. didn't see the owners thread.

Looking to upgrade my surrounds and had some questions on height placement and models.
Current setup

RP260F Fronts

RP440C Center

SVS P10 & SVS P12 subs

SS.5 Side Surrounds

SB 3 bookshelf Rear Surrounds


Room is dedicated 14x17. Sides are 6'11 from MLP, 5'7 from ground. Rears are 9'6 from MLP and 4'7 from ground I am thinking of going with RP250S for the sides and RP500M or RP600M for the Rears. Questions I have

Will those match the RP260F and RP440C I have well.

I like the center firing woofer in the SS.5 sides. The RP250S have the bipol woofer. Any issues with sound direction with those on the sides.

The RP600M have a smaller woofer than the SB3's. My assumption is the RP500/600 quality is much better and I wont notice a difference in bass output but surely don't want to downgrade.

Would the RP500M be sufficient. the cost of the RP600 is much more.

At some point I plan to go Atmos. Any concerns there. Lots of debate on BiPol/MonoPol but feel the consensus is the sides can be Bipol and the rears should be mono.

Is the height OK or will these new ones should I adjust

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Any thoughts good or bad on the Klipsch F-300? I am aware the RP is better its also priced much higher. I just bought the F-300's for 300 while they may not be the latest and greatest I will be using them to replace the Acoustech Pl-89's. I am not worried about bass response since that is well taken care of. So any comments good or bad??
Delurking big time - I think it might be a couple of years since I last posted.

I didn't see any follow up with Cichlid109's procurement of the F-300s. Did they turn out to be acceptable?

Anyway, I have a pair of these on the way. I currently have a pair of RP-160Ms and an RP-250C in my HT room as LCR. The speakers I've been using as rears are failing and I don't feel like repairing them for the 4th time (foam surround separating from frame) - they are an ancient set of 3-ways that would probably elicit far too many groans if I got specific...

So the RP-160M pair will become the new surrounds, and the F-300s will be my new L & R. I know I shouldn't expect them to be quite as high quality as the RP-160Ms, and the L & R won't match the C for timbre, but my room has so many compromises in other ways I suspect I will not really notice (and neither will any of the other listeners).

I chose these mainly because I wanted to see how towers would work in the room - the RP-160Ms were stacked up on another pair of unused ancient speakers, which were stacked on short bookcases.

If they turn out to be a complete mismatch with the RP-250C maybe I'll put them into the family room - that could use an upgrade from the cheap but solid Sony speakers I have there.

I had considered other offerings from Klipsch like the RP-600Ms (which seem to be the newer version of my RP-160Ms) or even RB-81 IIs. I may revisit those if the F-300s disappoint.

Back to lurking - anytime I delurk it costs me too much if I hang out too long, and I have other expensive hobbies already doing their best to break my credit card...

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I ended up with 5 of these. The way room is setup a typical center would throw audio out the window since TV cannot be placed in the right spot. So having said that using these as LCR and surrounds along with 2 prs of Volt 6's for atmos along with subs I am done and finally no more upgrades.

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I thought I would reply with Klipsch Reference Speakers. Our basement is all open space with carpeting with concrete walls. The ceiling is all open with exposed jousts. My special set-up is in an open space area that is 10 X 8, with a 55" TCL. My listening distance is 8 feet from the TV. The front speakers are spaced 6 feet apart and angled towards my listening position. The surround speakers are also 6 feet apart in line with the FL and FR.

The FL & FR are R-15M's with tweeters at ear level.

The Center is a R-25C and a bit above my head and angled towards my head.

The 2 Surrounds are Polk S-10, suspended, with tweeters 20" above my head and angled down towards my head. They are also a little bit behind my head.

The subwoofer is Klipsch R-100sw between TV and FR speaker.

The Denon AV-S910w drives the surround system that is also tied into the HD Direct TV receiver. The TV with ROKU and AV Receiver utilize the ARC feature, for streaming movies and other content.

With the AV Receiver and Subwoofer having the proper adjustments, I couldn't be happier with the sound from Movies and Music.

At two or three different times in 2019, I purchased these Reference speakers and subwoofer at about 1/2 msrp, and stayed within my budget. These replaced 8 year old JBL bookshelf.

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I ended up with 5 of these. The way room is setup a typical center would throw audio out the window since TV cannot be placed in the right spot. So having said that using these as LCR and surrounds along with 2 prs of Volt 6's for atmos along with subs I am done and finally no more upgrades.
So I take it you are generally happy with them, then? If you had to do it again, would do the same, or do something else, like spending more for an RP set from Klipsch?

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So I take it you are generally happy with them, then? If you had to do it again, would do the same, or do something else, like spending more for an RP set from Klipsch?
If money was no object ( on disability bum knee ) I would go the DIYSG route and build my own. As an example I bought the RP-160M's when they first came out approx. 450, yes they sounded great but I kept reading about the Volt 6's from DIYSG and decided to get a pair once I built them took 1 RP-160 and 1 Volt played them side by side no comparison sold the 160's. On the other hand I have a screwed up knee building things is not so much fun anymore and even though the 160's did not do it for me I have always like Klipsch some say they are too bright among other things but for 300 a pair I am happy with them they may not be the best or the worst and really there is only one person I need to impress and that is me. I think they are fine no desire to change.

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If money was no object ( on disability bum knee ) I would go the DIYSG route and build my own. As an example I bought the RP-160M's when they first came out approx. 450, yes they sounded great but I kept reading about the Volt 6's from DIYSG and decided to get a pair once I built them took 1 RP-160 and 1 Volt played them side by side no comparison sold the 160's. On the other hand I have a screwed up knee building things is not so much fun anymore and even though the 160's did not do it for me I have always like Klipsch some say they are too bright among other things but for 300 a pair I am happy with them they may not be the best or the worst and really there is only one person I need to impress and that is me. I think they are fine no desire to change.
Thanks for the response! Indeed, the only real opinion that matters is your own, especially if you are the one spending the money!

Hopefully the F-300s I ordered will get here early next week - they seem to be dragging a little...

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Hi everyone, starting to get more into Klipsch speakers from Polk speakers, but I am definitely not upset about Polk speakers, I enjoy their sound because I think I like the bright side of their sound signature. Here is my setup so far:

Polk CSI A6 Center
Klipsch RP-600m Front L/R
Klipsch R-10SW Sub
Polk S15 surround
Polk S15 height speakers
Polk S15 rear speakers

My question for everyone, if I upgrade my center speaker channel to a RP-504c , would it have the shouty-ness and horn sound from other Klipsch speakers, and is it a good center speaker for movies? Currently my CSI A6 is pretty good, just wanting to hear feedback from current owners of Klipsch center speaker owners.

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Thanks for the response! Indeed, the only real opinion that matters is your own, especially if you are the one spending the money!

Hopefully the F-300s I ordered will get here early next week - they seem to be dragging a little...
Just to add prior to getting the 300's I had Acoustech PL89's LCR and Bic DV84's as rear surrounds while they are cheap in comparison to other brands I was ok with them but there is no comparing them to the 300's these sound so much better. Like I wrote I am happy with them.

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Hi everyone, starting to get more into Klipsch speakers from Polk speakers, but I am definitely not upset about Polk speakers, I enjoy their sound because I think I like the bright side of their sound signature. Here is my setup so far:

Polk CSI A6 Center
Klipsch RP-600m Front L/R
Klipsch R-10SW Sub
Polk S15 surround
Polk S15 height speakers
Polk S15 rear speakers

My question for everyone, if I upgrade my center speaker channel to a RP-504c , would it have the shouty-ness and horn sound from other Klipsch speakers, and is it a good center speaker for movies? Currently my CSI A6 is pretty good, just wanting to hear feedback from current owners of Klipsch center speaker owners.

Thanks!
The RP-504c should sound pretty much like the RP600m. You could try turning off your Polk center speaker in your speaker setup, that should give you an idea if the 504c will be to your taste, as the RP600ms will take over center duties.
RP series Klipsch are more neutral than older Klipsch and aren't bright.

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Hi everyone, starting to get more into Klipsch speakers from Polk speakers, but I am definitely not upset about Polk speakers, I enjoy their sound because I think I like the bright side of their sound signature. Here is my setup so far:



Polk CSI A6 Center

Klipsch RP-600m Front L/R

Klipsch R-10SW Sub

Polk S15 surround

Polk S15 height speakers

Polk S15 rear speakers



My question for everyone, if I upgrade my center speaker channel to a RP-504c , would it have the shouty-ness and horn sound from other Klipsch speakers, and is it a good center speaker for movies? Currently my CSI A6 is pretty good, just wanting to hear feedback from current owners of Klipsch center speaker owners.



Thanks!
I have the 504c and 600m as my lcr setup... works fantastic together. They are smooth and not bright at all. The 504 is a great center channel.

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I just replaced my AV receiver going from a 5.1 receiver to one that can do 7.1 or 5.1.2. The speakers, from 2002, are a set of Klipsch Quintets plus a KSW-12 sub. Just for fun, I added my old KG4s using them as front speakers reassigning those two Quintet speakers to be Front Height speakers. While the KG4s are now back in the other room, they sounded surprisingly good with the Quintets.

With that background, I’m looking for recommendations on a pair of Klipsch speakers to use as fronts. I’m thinking bookshelf or smaller floor speakers (the KG4s are physically larger than desired for the room). The listening room (our family room) is not an ideal space - very wide but shallow with doorways on three sides - rear surrounds are not an option.
I posted the above a couple of weeks ago but didn't get any replies (lots of other threads going on in this so I understand) but wanted to update for anyone who read it and was curious. Ended up buying a pair of R-41Ms. The main reason being dimensions - at their width, they could go right next to the display on top of the entertainment center. This puts them a little closer together than desired but to be any wider or to have used floor standing speakers (as when I tried the KG4s there) would mean putting the right speaker on the other side of a doorway with the two unequal distances from the display (having a doorway in the middle of that wall is a real pain).

The receiver is a Yamaha RX-V685 and after running their YPAO setup, I felt the center was very weak relative to the R-41Ms and for a TV show with music on the L and R and dialogue in the center, dialogue was getting lost. This was quite a surprise as I found the YPAO settings worked well with the KG4s there. I've overridden the YPAO settings to boost the center and have a good balance of things now although I keep tweaking things.

The good news is we are likely moving in a year or two so room design for what will be the listening room will be a consideration.
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I posted the above a couple of weeks ago but didn't get any replies (lots of other threads going on in this so I understand) but wanted to update for anyone who read it and was curious. Ended up buying a pair of R-41Ms. The main reason being dimensions - at their width, they could go right next to the display on top of the entertainment center. This puts them a little closer together than desired but to be any wider or to have used floor standing speakers (as when I tried the KG4s there) would mean putting the right speaker on the other side of a doorway with the two unequal distances from the display (having a doorway in the middle of that wall is a real pain).

The receiver is a Yamaha RX-V685 and after running their YPAO setup, I felt the center was very weak relative to the R-41Ms and for a TV show with music on the L and R and dialogue in the center, dialogue was getting lost. This was quite a surprise as I found the YPAO settings worked well with the KG4s there. I've overridden the YPAO settings to boost the center and have a good balance of things now although I keep tweaking things.

The good news is we are likely moving in a year or two so room design for what will be the listening room will be a consideration.
Good show and might want to consider their R-52C to replace your current center. I assume you have surrounds and a subwoofer. Enjoy your new R-41m

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Good show and might want to consider their R-52C to replace your current center. I assume you have surrounds and a subwoofer. Enjoy your new R-41m
That was mentioned in the first post. Quintet (first generation I believe) and a KSW-12 sub were my original 5.1 speakers. With the R-41M now as the L/R front speakers, the front Quintet speakers are now front height (Presence in Yamaha-speak) speakers.
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Does anyone have this sub?

https://www.costco.com/klipsch-r-12s...100526745.html

I am thinking on getting 4 of them to even out the bass, they will be played at low volume and somewhat near field.

I am currently running a JTR 118HT which is great but I have a big hole in my in room freq response due to placement of a single sub, I know it's hard to make different subs to match but I would like to try. Always wanted a little "mid range".

I am just afraid the capability may be too light weight.. but thinking with 4 of them it would not strain each individually.

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Does anyone have this sub?

https://www.costco.com/klipsch-r-12s...100526745.html

I am thinking on getting 4 of them to even out the bass, they will be played at low volume and somewhat near field.

I am currently running a JTR 118HT which is great but I have a big hole in my in room freq response due to placement of a single sub, I know it's hard to make different subs to match but I would like to try. Always wanted a little "mid range".

I am just afraid the capability may be too light weight.. but thinking with 4 of them it would not strain each individually.
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You want bass you can feel? - Shop for something else.

Would a RSL 10" Speedwoofer beat the hell out of a Klipsch R 12sw?

I currently have the same Klipsch and am dying to upgrade. Considering between the Speedwoofer, Rythmik LV12F, HSU VTF2 Mk5. I like the size and price of RSL, but wondering how much better those slightly more expensive options are.

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for an Atmos 5.1.4 setup is it better to go with 502s or 600M as my side surrounds?
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Does anyone have this sub?

https://www.costco.com/klipsch-r-12s...100526745.html

I am thinking on getting 4 of them to even out the bass, they will be played at low volume and somewhat near field.

I am currently running a JTR 118HT which is great but I have a big hole in my in room freq response due to placement of a single sub, I know it's hard to make different subs to match but I would like to try. Always wanted a little "mid range".

I am just afraid the capability may be too light weight.. but thinking with 4 of them it would not strain each individually.
These subs will not be able to me close to the low-end you are getting from your JTR sub. You would be better served by buying another JTR for your room. You will not be happy with these.

If you want mid-bass as well as great ULF, look at Power Sound Audio. Their subs are known for their mid-bass capabilities and with their new lineup having lower port tunes, they can compete with the likes of JTR in the ULF category.
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Would a RSL 10" Speedwoofer beat the hell out of a Klipsch R 12sw?

I currently have the same Klipsch and am dying to upgrade. Considering between the Speedwoofer, Rythmik LV12F, HSU VTF2 Mk5. I like the size and price of RSL, but wondering how much better those slightly more expensive options are.
Check out the obvious brands on subs

SVS, HSU, REL

If you want go go above and beyond there is always JTR.
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Would a RSL 10" Speedwoofer beat the hell out of a Klipsch R 12sw?

I currently have the same Klipsch and am dying to upgrade. Considering between the Speedwoofer, Rythmik LV12F, HSU VTF2 Mk5. I like the size and price of RSL, but wondering how much better those slightly more expensive options are.
I seriously doubt it. The HSU VTF2 Mk5 would easily best it, as would the Rythmik LV12F. Either would be a good choice, but i would give the edge to the HSU.
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Hopefully the F-300s I ordered will get here early next week - they seem to be dragging a little...
So the F-300s finally showed up - took almost two weeks for them to ship from CA to FL. The boxes look like they got abused at every opportunity sitting in the warehouse - tears along the top edges, scrapes, squished sides. But the speakers themselves were in perfect condition - the styrofoam took all the abuse.

The F-300s are swapping in for where I had RP-160Ms. So I put one of the F-300s in place, beside an RP-160M on it's stand, and swapped the speaker cable to the new speaker. This afforded me an opportunity to hear the difference directly - one of each, L & R, using pure stereo, no Center, no SW. The F-300 is noticeably louder - I had to move from the middle to almost half way toward the remaining RP-160M to get the music balanced. I would say the F-300 is about twice as loud as the RP-160M. Specs say the RP-160M is 96dB sensitivity, while the F-300 is 98dB. I believe it might be more in reality!

As far as overall sound quality, it sounded about equal, but I didn't give a deep listen comparing one to the other. Once I got the other speaker hooked up, and the RP-160Ms moved to the side surrounds (replacing some ancient off-brand 3-ways with 12" woofers), direct audio stereo sounded very nice and reasonably full in the upper bass, even without a SW, but all channel stereo and 5.1 music sounded as I expected - good and full, not harsh like some folks experience with Klipsch.

Would I prefer the sound of the equivalent-speaker configuration Klipsch models like RP-8000Fs with their titanium tweeters and cerametallic woofers? I dunno - I suspect my non-youthful age and corresponding ears would not let me appreciate the difference too much.
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Currently have the following in my HT and it does not dissapoint.

Center : RC62II

Fronts : R625-FA x2

Side Surround : RP-502S

Rear : R-51M

Sub: R-120SW

Receiver : Pioneer Elite LX503

Sounds amazing and gives more than enough bass


Would you guys recommend upgrading from my RC62II to a RP-504C Center? Would it be a noticeable upgrade in terms of sound or is it about equal?
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