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The nDac is very good with the C1's. I had the XP5XS power supply too. The p/s adds a bit more detail and a hair more 'slam'. That p/s was Naim's entry level for the nDac
I demoed the XP5XS when I first tried the N272 on home demo,I did not think it really added much to the 272,the XPSDR though is quite noticeable.Plenty of guys in the Naim world are running the NDAC with a 555DR power supply,which is getting into crazy money...but I may get one eventually for my 272.

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Wish Dynaudio would release some cans, preferably closed back...
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I demoed the XP5XS when I first tried the N272 on home demo,I did not think it really added much to the 272,the XPSDR though is quite noticeable.Plenty of guys in the Naim world are running the NDAC with a 555DR power supply,which is getting into crazy money...but I may get one eventually for my 272.
Like I said the XP5XS is entry level. I never listened to anything better. I considered it a slight improvement. Just a hair more clarity and slam. As you can tell if it's an improvement to my ears I'll snag it. Just like cables. If you're looking for huge differences in tonality it rarely happens. But if you want more detail/openness cables or an entry level p/s can be a nice but slight improvement without any major electronic/speaker changes. Move up the line and the changes can be very significant.

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Tony actually Rhettard liked my nDac without the p/s where I preferred it.
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Tony actually Rhettard liked my nDac without the p/s where I preferred it.
Ya,I don’t know the details of what is inside the Ndac,or the 272s Dac,but if the Ndac is anything like the 272,it is VERY good.When I had the Hugo 2 and Dave in my system,sure there was an enormous amount of detail and 3D soundstage,but the 272(with power supply) was not outclassed at all really,and actually has more boogie,is very musical,and just sounds like live music.With the Chord products,you can hear every little detail,but I found myself over analizing the music,listening to certain parts of the song,rather than just enjoying the music as a whole...if that makes any sense.
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Receivers don’t have hardline stops on the frequencies when you crossover. It’s a like a filter that cuts most of the frequencies off at that point but not all of them. So the X32s will play some sound when crossed over. This helps the sound blend more easily as well.



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Integrated Amplifier Recommendations

Hello all,
I have just bought my first and hopfully last of my speakers. It's Contour 30s. And my final upgrade is exhausting search for an integrated amp for it.
I love listening fairly loud. I like all kinds of music from classical to techno.

I have a budget of under $5k. Any recommendations would be appreciated it. I have another thread somewhere and some mentioned Plinius, McIntosh, Gryphon.

So far I am considering: Anthem STR Integrated, Krell Vanguard, Classe 2200i, Plinius Hautonga, Lyngdorf 2170, Simaudio Moon 340i, Hegel H190. Chioces, choices! I wish I had time and money to audition all of these!
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Hello all,
I have just bought my first and hopfully last of my speakers. It's Contour 30s. And my final upgrade is exhausting search for an integrated amp for it.
I love listening fairly loud. I like all kinds of music from classical to techno.

I have a budget of under $5k. Any recommendations would be appreciated it. I have another thread somewhere and some mentioned Plinius, McIntosh, Gryphon.

So far I am considering: Anthem STR Integrated, Krell Vanguard, Classe 2200i, Plinius Hautonga, Lyngdorf 2170, Simaudio Moon 340i, Hegel H190. Chioces, choices! I wish I had time and money to audition all of these!
Most of us here use Naim, there’s a few that use Hegel, then there’s Belles, Octave(tubes), NAD Masters or Marantz Reference floating around here as well.
You should be able to get something like the Naim Supernait 2 within budget.
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Hello all,
I have just bought my first and hopfully last of my speakers. It's Contour 30s. And my final upgrade is exhausting search for an integrated amp for it.
I love listening fairly loud. I like all kinds of music from classical to techno.

I have a budget of under $5k. Any recommendations would be appreciated it. I have another thread somewhere and some mentioned Plinius, McIntosh, Gryphon.

So far I am considering: Anthem STR Integrated, Krell Vanguard, Classe 2200i, Plinius Hautonga, Lyngdorf 2170, Simaudio Moon 340i, Hegel H190. Chioces, choices! I wish I had time and money to audition all of these!
EDIT: Recommendation removed as it is not relevant to the ask.

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In addition to the aforementioned, look at the Bryston 4B3.
Isn't the Bryston 4B3 just a simple power amplifier while the others mentioned are good integrated amps?

If I were looking at an integrated amp, the Hegel H360 and NAD M32 would be on my list.

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Isn't the Bryston 4B3 just a simple power amplifier while the others mentioned are good integrated amps?

If I were looking at an integrated amp, the Hegel H360 and NAD M32 would be on my list.
Apologies. I should slow down and read better.

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Naim's power

Thank you for your inputs. I just read about Naim, but at 80wpc, does it sound ample enough?
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Thank you for your inputs. I just read about Naim, but at 80wpc, does it sound ample enough?
Yes. More than capable.
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Thank you for your inputs. I just read about Naim, but at 80wpc, does it sound ample enough?
BigAl,a member here,has Contour 30s...and he is using Naim 272/250 DR with them.Hopefully he can give you his feedback on that combo.Although they are both rated at 80 watts into 8 ohms,the 250 DR has more grunt than the SN2,I have owned both.Naim punch way above their weight,so don’t pay much attention to the 80 Watts.

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BigAl,a member here,has Contour 30s...and he is using Naim 272/250 DR with them.Hopefully he can give you his feedback on that combo.Although they are both rated at 80 watts into 8 ohms,the 250 DR has more grunt than the SN2,I have owned both.Naim punch way above their weight,so don’t pay much attention to the 80 Watts.
Ahh I see. Thank you for the info. I am always a "numbers" guy. And I like it a little loud
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Isn't the Bryston 4B3 just a simple power amplifier while the others mentioned are good integrated amps?

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Well a b135SST is a GREAT option for an integrated IMHO. Built to last and sound great. Made in north 'merica. No BS high quality gear, with Plenty o power for contour 30s,
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Were the speakers green or black? The green ones were the D1.1's with a 4 1/2 driver (rated down to 50hz) and the black ones were the XT1 with a 4" driver (rated down to 80hz). They will have a problem pressurizing a larger room but that room was pretty big to begin with. I thought both were great in that room. The larger models sound even better.
They were the green ones and they sounded great, really made me rethink my needs for good sound.

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Hello all,
I have just bought my first and hopfully last of my speakers. It's Contour 30s. And my final upgrade is exhausting search for an integrated amp for it.
I love listening fairly loud. I like all kinds of music from classical to techno.

I have a budget of under $5k. Any recommendations would be appreciated it. I have another thread somewhere and some mentioned Plinius, McIntosh, Gryphon.

So far I am considering: Anthem STR Integrated, Krell Vanguard, Classe 2200i, Plinius Hautonga, Lyngdorf 2170, Simaudio Moon 340i, Hegel H190. Chioces, choices! I wish I had time and money to audition all of these!
Would you like Any additionel options like internal dac / headphone / phono?
I always like the ‘alround’ capability of simaudio, and works well with dyns. A 340i is a very Nice one, had it before the separates. You might consider a used top of line moon 700i or 600i, without the options included. Balanced input Though.

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Would you like Any additionel options like internal dac / headphone / phono?
I always like the ‘alround’ capability of simaudio, and works well with dyns. A 340i is a very Nice one, had it before the separates. You might consider a used top of line moon 700i or 600i, without the options included. Balanced input Though.
Hi,
So far after many kind suggestions, I thought about getting a Plinius, but alas, no headphone! I read several recommendations, but now it's out the window because of that.
I never got into phono or dac, sounds like dacs are becoming more popular these days.

Moon 600 or 700 is definitely out of my range. So possibly Moon 340i, Anthem STR(my favorite for cosmetics, kinda important to me), Naim Supernait 2, all because headphone jack is a must!

Anyone here with experience with Classe 2200i?

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Ahh I see. Thank you for the info. I am always a "numbers" guy. And I like it a little loud
My Naim Uniti Star is 70 watts and I like it loud too, I also use its HTBP so it powers my main speakers during movies, compared to my 125w Marantz AVR, the Naim plays louder and clearer with better weight and authority then the Marantzis capable of. I can make my Marantz distort where the Naim unit doesn’t flinch.

Keep this in mind too, the difference in real output between an 80 watt amp and 150 watt amp is about 2.7 dbs.
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The NAD M32, rated by them at 150w/ch is another which is a very conservative rating. They state dynamic power to be much higher. My lowly NAD T758 AVR is given a "true power rating" by them of 60w/ch and it's blows away the 110w/ch Denon I had tested.

And the M32 definitely has a headphone output (and MM phono amp.) On-board streaming with the BlueOS module installed is cool.

I see conflicting info from NAD on output. In some places it states 150w.ch continuous, but in other places it's 180w/ch. Weird.

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They were the green ones and they sounded great, really made me rethink my needs for good sound.
I started with the D1's (not .1's). It only gets better as you move up the line. It will only take a few gold bars.
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Keep an eye out for the brand new Ayre AX-8. It's still coming onto the market and the guesses on the price are all over the map. But I've read that around 5k is not out of realm of possibility.
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Ethernet cable come in yet drewtt?
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I saw your recent post at the Naim Forum where you say you haven't read of Schiit (Yggdrasil) having good synergy with NAIM. I would like to say I've done extensive home demos of the Yiggy, Gungnir Multibit, and own the Modi Multibit. All have lovely synergy with NAIM in varying degrees of satisfaction. Yiggy is still my favorite DAC, even after recently demoing Dave. I'm waiting to evaluate the Metrum Onyx before hopefully buying something (it costs about the same as Yiggy). Dare you to demo them both.
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I saw your recent post at the Naim Forum where you say you haven't read of Schiit (Yggdrasil) having good synergy with NAIM. I would like to say I've done extensive home demos of the Yiggy, Gungnir Multibit, and own the Modi Multibit. All have lovely synergy with NAIM in varying degrees of satisfaction. Yiggy is still my favorite DAC, even after recently demoing Dave. I'm waiting to evaluate the Metrum Onyx before hopefully buying something (it costs about the same as Yiggy). Dare you to demo them both.
Ah,not quite what I said GT,I said I have not heard of anyone using Yggy with Naim gear,so I was happy to hear that one guy liked it with his Naim gear.It will be the Dac I look at next,if I even bother,quite happy with the 272 Dac at the moment.

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The NAD M32, rated by them at 150w/ch is another which is a very conservative rating. They state dynamic power to be much higher. My lowly NAD T758 AVR is given a "true power rating" by them of 60w/ch and it's blows away the 110w/ch Denon I had tested.

And the M32 definitely has a headphone output (and MM phono amp.) On-board streaming with the BlueOS module installed is cool.

I see conflicting info from NAD on output. In some places it states 150w.ch continuous, but in other places it's 180w/ch. Weird.
Thanks for another suggestion. Did a quick search, I missed a deal at Ebay, mint M32 for $2000! I would of bought that...
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How about a comparison of S40 to F160 GT and NQ? You two have heard both or owned both. Anyone else?
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