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Maybe Otto J could comment on the Stereophile review about cabinet resonance? Maybe it is intentional, worked around or a third possibility? Or maybe it is what to expect at the relatively low price of the "best woofer ever"?

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Today I got around to connecting my Cary Audio Cinema 12 up for two channel listening.I am using the digital out of my N272 as a source,so I have internet radio,and all the contents of my Core available.Also,the Cary has FM radio built in,so I have been playing with that too.First impressions are really really good,the preamp in this thing is stellar.I will probably leave it hooked up this way all week,to make sure it is fully warmed up,but right now,hell yes,I could live with this.One thing the Cary offers me is DSP,if I choose to use it,so room EQ etc.,but I am not real fond of messing around with that stuff for 2 channel.
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Audyssey is not playing well with my x34s. In both my last apartment (small room, couch against wall) and my current house (10ft ceiling, big room, couch pulled away from wall) with 2 different marantz receivers plus tried a peachtree amp, audyssey sets 80-90hz at -15-20db, and boosts the entire 10-20khz as high as the graph will show. Anyone else seeing this?
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What are you all using for PC speakers? Near field? I am always keeping my eyes open for something priced less than X14A/Xeo2. Dynaudio Lyd?
At home I pretty much use a laptop in my living room so I can listen to the C4's, at work it's always headphones (which I REALLY WISH Dynaudio would start making! Otto please hear our CRY!)

The closest thing I have to near field would be in my shop where I'm using a pair of BM Compact mkiii's, since they have been discontinued you can usually find pretty good deals on them. If I was going to buy something current though, I'd definitely go with the LYD's.
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I have heard both and had both, the KEF system will play it little louder but the Music system sounds better, especially if your use to Dynaudio Drivers, which I was told where similar ones they used in the Xeo and or Excite series, I think Otto can chime into clarify. I have the Music 3 which will go in my office when it's done or under my TV in the bar area, what I liked about the 3 is its portable. Here is a review on the 5..

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I have heard both and had both, the KEF Muo and Naim Muso QB system will play it little louder but the Music system sounds better, especially if your use to Dynaudio Drivers, which I was told where similar ones they used in the Xeo and or Excite series, I think Otto can chime into clarify. I have the Music 3 which will go in my office when it's done or under my TV in the bar area, what I liked about the 3 is its portable. Here is a review on the 5..

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Thanks, IF I got one it would be a Music 7 so I could use it for a soundbar as well...
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Audyssey is not playing well with my x34s. In both my last apartment (small room, couch against wall) and my current house (10ft ceiling, big room, couch pulled away from wall) with 2 different marantz receivers plus tried a peachtree amp, audyssey sets 80-90hz at -15-20db, and boosts the entire 10-20khz as high as the graph will show. Anyone else seeing this?
Yes, my YPAO algorithm does similar things with mine (X18's but same tweeter). It boosted the treble to the point where it sounded too brittle and "icy". It did some nice things in the mids but overall it just sounded like it made everything "brighter".

I ended up turning off the EQ for the fronts and just used it for the sub since yamaha has the ability to EQ subwoofer only. I prefer it this way in my room.

Try turning off any front EQ and see if you like it better. If you can EQ the bass, I would still recommend to do so. The dyns are very well-balanced on their own and don't need much (or any) EQ above the bass region (which is room dependent).
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l0nestar8: I take it you use a Yamaha Aventage Receiver, if your talking about the YPAO algorithm, I believe the YAPO R.S.C can only do this and is on Yamaha more advanced receivers. I will be using one of their Aventage Receivers for my HT setup and a Belles Setup for music... Thanks for the reminder on that feature.
I actually only have the TSR-7810 and it's not nearly as advanced as your Aventage's feature.

Here's how it works on mine:

By selecting "YPAO:Front" in the "Parametric EQ" menu, it removes any EQ from the fronts completely and instead EQ's any other speakers in the room to mimic the front's natural in-room response. In other words, it's designed to EQ the center and surrounds to mirror the fronts while leaving the fronts unmolested.

My system is 2.1 so what happens in a practical sense is that it turns off any speaker EQ (remember I only have the front stereo pair and the Hsu sub) and just EQ's the sub.

It's a bit of a hack, I suppose, but it works very well for me and I think most receivers have a similar feature that will exclude the fronts from EQ while applying RC to the rest of the system. I know my old Marantz had a similar feature via Audyssey but I can't remember what it was called off the top of my head.
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Agreed,and to counter THAT link,here is one that a guy on the Naim forum posted.It is about Ansuz Cables and distribution blocks,same ones George uses.The guy who posted it uses Naim Ovator 600 speakers,and we know George uses Raidho...so this stuff works with any speaker,including Dyns,I would think.In part of the demo,he uses scansonics with Naim gear,then upgrades to Raidho,then Aavik,with all the various cables.It is a good read,and certainly eye opening.So,to Fullshred,are we supposed to believe YOU,and your lame links,or a guy we actually know (George),who uses them,along with Matrixman,Bluvette,and I think the other guy was Jnelson,or Yonson,who all had a demo of these cables,and all say the improvement was HUGE.



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Over the weekend I had the opportunity to swap out my Panamax 5400 and some demo Straightwire Pro Thunder cables with an Ansuz Mainz D8 and two 2M Ansuz X power cables. One to the wall and other to my integrated. Yes, the right synergy between power and components is not snake oil. It’s suttle yet definitely audible. More detail. More open soundstage. More control in the low end. Call me one of the crazy ones . I’m on board.


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Agreed,and to counter THAT link,here is one that a guy on the Naim forum posted.It is about Ansuz Cables and distribution blocks,same ones George uses.The guy who posted it uses Naim Ovator 600 speakers,and we know George uses Raidho...so this stuff works with any speaker,including Dyns,I would think.In part of the demo,he uses scansonics with Naim gear,then upgrades to Raidho,then Aavik,with all the various cables.It is a good read,and certainly eye opening.So,to Fullshred,are we supposed to believe YOU,and your lame links,or a guy we actually know (George),who uses them,along with Matrixman,Bluvette,and I think the other guy was Jnelson,or Yonson,who all had a demo of these cables,and all say the improvement was HUGE.



https://www.monoandstereo.com/2016/0...-overview.html


Over the weekend I had the opportunity to swap out my Panamax 5400 and some demo Straightwire Pro Thunder cables with an Ansuz Mainz D8 and two 2M Ansuz X power cables. One to the wall and other to my integrated. Yes, the right synergy between power and components is not snake oil. It’s suttle yet definitely audible. More detail. More open soundstage. More control in the low end. Call me one of the crazy ones . I’m on board.


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Very cool. Congrats! What IA do you have?
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Over the weekend I had the opportunity to swap out my Panamax 5400 and some demo Straightwire Pro Thunder cables with an Ansuz Mainz D8 and two 2M Ansuz X power cables. One to the wall and other to my integrated. Yes, the right synergy between power and components is not snake oil. It’s suttle yet definitely audible. More detail. More open soundstage. More control in the low end. Call me one of the crazy ones . I’m on board.


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How did the Panamax sound with the Ansuz cables? The Ansuz with the Straightwire cables?
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How did the Panamax sound with the Ansuz cables? The Ansuz with the Straightwire cables?


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If you had everything there, why not go through every combination?


Because I’m lazy. No, actually because I’d really need to leave then in the current position for at least a few days to have my ears accustomed to what I was hearing before changing things up. These are demo cables and have to ship them back tomorrow so i had no time.


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Because I’m lazy. No, actually because I’d really need to leave then in the current position for at least a few days to have my ears accustomed to what I was hearing before changing things up. These are demo cables and have to ship them back tomorrow so i had no time.


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Good to hear,I think George mentioned Bluvette is trying some Ansuz gear out too.So which ones are you ordering?....and dare I ask how much?
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Good to hear,I think George mentioned Bluvette is trying some Ansuz gear out too.So which ones are you ordering?....and dare I ask how much?


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I cannot comment on the Ansuz I purchased because it is not running DYNAUDIO gear of any sort. Above post no one is mentioning DYNAUDIO at all also. This does not bother me at all but it may bother others.
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I cannot comment on the Ansuz I purchased because it is not running DYNAUDIO gear of any sort. Above post no one is mentioning DYNAUDIO at all also. This does not bother me at all but it may bother others.[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/IMG][IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG]
No problems with it, but one should not demo it at a dealer or listen to anyone with the same comments over and over and over, too much like a sales pitch.. Take it home and if you think it works so be it, end of story! If I was living in Chicago where the power grid is full of interference it could make a difference. If your system is pretty much set and you want to kill some time/money tweaking it, go for it! Just don't want to see a Dynaudio Forum turned into a Sales site for some Cable company, because the right way to do a good test is to include many different types, maybe some one should start of a Scansonic/Raidho/Anzul Forum, wait some one already did that ! [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG] Sorry but it's almost mentioned daily on here, which is a tad annoying, you want to keep on discussing cables make a thread where you can do it daily. You don't see me mentioning my gear daily and trying to sell you on buying it. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/IMG] I use a PS Audio for power distribution, and I highly doubt anyone on here could hear the difference of that system and the Ansuz stuff, both very well made and could make a difference. Cables are like Religion, it's a belief and seldom proven, but hey I am Catholic! LOL [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG] lol
These type post are way more annoying than any other post I see. Unreal that people actually think only Dynaudio should be mentioned here. What a bunch of children. Think I'm done here. Enjoy yourselves talking only Dybaudio speakers.
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I could not agree more, I use to be pretty active on this forum but it really took a crap. Very annoying no it all's that if you do not see it their way it is reported. So I figure I will have a bit of fun and go along with it. I am done here as well and am sure not missed. Never really contributed much anyway. Enjoy guys!! By the way I am listening to my Dynaudio XEO-2 right now!!
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So...

I currently, have DYNAUDIO Emit M10s. I like them fine; but am considering, whether moving up the line...say DYNAUDIO X14s, or DYNAUDIO Special 40s...makes sense for me?

Please, don't consider...my other gear, my listening tastes, my budget; please, please, please...only focus on DYNAUDIO speakers, in a vacuum.

I look forward, to your feedback. Thanks
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So...

I currently, have DYNAUDIO Emit M10s. I like them fine; but am considering, whether moving up the line...say DYNAUDIO X14s, or DYNAUDIO Special 40s...makes sense for me?

Please, don't consider...my other gear, my listening tastes, my budget; please, please, please...only focus on DYNAUDIO speakers, in a vacuum.

I look forward, to your feedback. Thanks
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I have not heard the Emit M10s,so keep that in mind.I currently still own X12’s,and owned special 40s for about 6 months.I will never sell my excite 12s(white),they just seem to convey the music at a really high level,for their cost...I paid 1k Canadian with stand 3’s included.Now the special 40s are in a different league altogether,much more bass,and the mids and highs are true high end.They just disappear,and ALL music genres are excellent with them.Somebody posted about cabinet resonance a while back with the 40s,but I never noticed anything negative about them.I think you will love them,knowing all the speakers you have gone through.Dyns best bang for the buck speaker to date,you really have nothing to lose here.
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I currently, have DYNAUDIO Emit M10s. I like them fine; but am considering, whether moving up the line...say DYNAUDIO X14s, or DYNAUDIO Special 40s...makes sense for me?

Please, don't consider...my other gear, my listening tastes, my budget; please, please, please...only focus on DYNAUDIO speakers, in a vacuum.

I look forward, to your feedback. Thanks
Chris my vote vote goes for the S40. To me they sound more refined. Extremely similar to the C1 Sig's I had.
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Chris my vote vote goes for the S40. To me they sound more refined. Extremely similar to the C1 Sig's I had.

Agree'd! If I had room for them, I'd probably have a set of Dynaudio S40's...

George congrats on the retirement and new PT job, I'm jealous of all the new Dynaudio gear you will get to demo!
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Agree'd! If I had room for them, I'd probably have a set of Dynaudio S40's...

George congrats on the retirement and new PT job, I'm jealous of all the new Dynaudio gear you will get to demo!
On top of it the Dyn warehouse is only about 30 - 35 miles from Tylers place.
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On top of it the Dyn warehouse is only about 30 - 35 miles from Tylers place.
What choo talkin bout Willis?

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Looks like Dynaudio have snuck a hi-res studio photo of the Confidence 60 onto their media kit site I won't upload it here as there's a copyright disclaimer when you navigate in. Here's the link:

http://mediakit.dynaudio.com/public/...fidence/images

There's also a 'tech showcase'-style press release:

http://mediakit.dynaudio.com/public/...ech%20showcase

Esotar3 and DDC lens we've already heard about, this is new though:

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New midrange driver with Horizon surround

The Confidence’s brand-new MSP midrange driver is a big departure from previous
Dynaudio designs.

It has a radical surround design that follows the cone’s shape right to the edge of
the driver. This reduces the surround’s first resonant mode to effectively increase
the whole playing surface area and improve performance. It also sits flush with the
baffle to reduce diffractions from the diaphragm and the nearby tweeter.

Behind the scenes, the basket has been given a new lightweight organic design –
one that’s come from extensive topology-optimisation simulations. It increases
airflow, maintains its stability and rigidity and reduces weight simultaneously without
sacrificing performance.
Finally, there's a close up of the new improved DDC lens (Dynaudio Directivity Control):

http://mediakit.dynaudio.com/public/...peaker%20parts

Oh, and found this press release with US pricing (I think this has been released already?)

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/arti...speaker-range/

Confidence 20 ($12,999 per pair, including stands)
Confidence 30 ($19,999 per pair)
Confidence 50 ($26,999 per pair)
Confidence 60 ($39,999 per pair)

Thoughts? Is the look growing on people? Price point... one third of the way between Confidence and Evidence, the two lines they replace?

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What choo talkin bout Willis?
The distribution warehouse is in Glenview Illinois. Unless they added warehouses in other cities. I'll ask Tyler.
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