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Did you use it with SVS?

It's very obvious why it's very limited with output - in order to play 22 Hz with its size and amp, there must be a lot of digital EQ and compression. You can't beat physics.

It's very simple - this subwoofer is not meant for usage like this.
For small near-field monitor system - it's quite fine. It's made for that.
Maybe that's the reason you like it better on the shelf.
I was using the internal high pass filter of the SVS @ 80Hz just as I'm doing with the 9S.

Whatever the output of the 9S, sub-bass frequencies are sounding perfect in both quantity and quality in my system for the first time in several decades.

I've been monitoring the issue of vibration with the sub on the shelf. It's not an audio rack; it's a very heavy, solid table and, to this point, there are no vibrations, audible or not, being transmitted to the gear on the shelf below. No vibration sounds emanate from the decorative objects adjacent to the sub either. Nevertheless, I may still mount the sub on Sorbothane feet at some point.

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Ooh; 2019 starting off right!

Checked in, with my NAD dealer...on what I assumed, was his 1st day back from the Holiday break.

Just wanted an update, on the C658; figuring I still had a week or so, before there'd be any new news.

Should be coming, sooner than originally expected. As early as tomorrow!!
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I've been very pleased with my pair of REL R-328 for music. They are fast, low and loud...at least well enough for my room. I suppose if I relocated to the larger living room I might want to graduate to a pair of REL S/3, but for now I love the response I get, especially for jazz with acoustic bass and big orchestral works.

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Ooh; 2019 starting off right!

Checked in, with my NAD dealer...on what I assumed, was his 1st day back from the Holiday break.

Just wanted an update, on the C658; figuring I still had a week or so, before there'd be any new news.

Should be coming, sooner than originally expected. As early as tomorrow!!
Congrats on NAD unit, and thanks again for the deal on the Arcam Dac, I am putting it to good use!

As far as Subs go, it's like pissing into the wind and trying not too get wet, when it comes discussing subs, it's like calling your baby ugly if you like one over the other! I went with dual 8" subs as I didn't need anything larger and the way my room works out, they go plenty low for me during a movie, still need to tweak them but very happy so far. Plus, I don't need a sub with music in this room, the C2's do perfectly well on their own.

SVS Subs are very good and so are many others, if it suits the right application for you and you get the results you want, that's all that matters!
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Dynaudio manufactures a wide variety of speakers,for many different applications.JL audio are a subwoofer only manufacturer,along with sub crossovers.No I do not think they can compete,not really a fair fight.
JL Audio is NOT a subwoofer only manufacturer. They are a car audio brand before anything else who made their name in home audio with their superb subwoofers. They make numerous amplifiers, component sets, coaxials, and subwoofers. They are a leader in the car audio world as far as good sounding class D amplification. This is one of the reasons their home audio subwoofer designs sound good. They have their own class D designs, and their own subwoofer designs. It's all them from start to finish.

However, I do agree with the point you were trying to make. JL Audio excels at subwoofer technology in car and home audio application. Dynaudio has always had a half ***ed attempt at making subwoofers. In my experience, Dynaudio makes subwoofers that aren't meant to play at high SPL (similar to their now old speaker designs). JL makes subs that sound good and play to extremes levels. Dynaudio has the Esotar 1200 car audio subwoofer, but I'm not sure they ever used it in a good home audio application. I'm not sure why.

Maybe, some more complaining about Dynaudio's subwoofers will get them to really put in an effort, just like they've done recently with their full range speakers to improve bass response and SPL level capabilities. I have not heard their new subwoofer releases, but no one seems to be raving about them either.

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Dynaudio has the Esotar 1200 car audio subwoofer, but I'm not sure they ever used it in a good home audio application. I'm not sure why.
It's basically a design variant of the driver used in the Sub 600 and Consequence.

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As far as Subs go, it's like pissing into the wind and trying not too get wet, when it comes discussing subs, it's like calling your baby ugly if you like one over the other!




Subwoofers are probably more than any other part of the Hi-Fi/HT equipment sensitive to room, placement and settings and proper integration with main speakers is crucial.
Without optimal placement and room correction EQ subs could hardly sound ok.
Finding optimal settings without measurements is impossible.

And yes, there are some subwoofers which are more sensitive to placement and settings and others which are less, and almost by definition, smaller and less potent (sealed) subs are easier for setup.

E.g. above mentioned SB13-Ultra can be "boomy" only if not set right. I'm not saying it's "musical" as much as JL Audio Fathom, but it could hardly be called "boomy".

It would be great if we all had proper FR measurments of systems we are discussing about.
That's the only way to get some (pretty rough) "picture" about some system without hearing it.
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No Tony I haven't heard that until now. Sounds very good and something I would love to hear on a good system - not my crappy computer speakers. Until just recently my next purchase was going to be a streamer with the capability of subscription music. But after hearing some new speakers I'm not sure.
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I don't want to beat the subject of sub preferences into the ground (though I think we already have) but I think a huge element that's been mostly absent in this conversation is what music we mostly listen to.

Obviously those who listen overwhelmingly to Rap and electronic dance genres are going to want a different sub than those who listen to folk, bluegrass and other acoustic genres.

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No Tony I haven't heard that until now. Sounds very good and something I would love to hear on a good system - not my crappy computer speakers. Until just recently my next purchase was going to be a streamer with the capability of subscription music. But after hearing some new speakers I'm not sure.
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Tony I don't have a facebook acct. But you are right because I did see that link. Unfortunately I rarely use my computer speakers to listen to what's playing because I can't hear what the speakers sound like. I have most all the Lars/Mike demo discs including the 2018 demo. I wonder if it will be on a 2019 disc. Those new speakers are really something else especially as they are breaking in.
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I recently listened to one 03 and one 3.1 since the sensitivity specs were close. 89db for the 03 and 90db for the 3.1. In the sweet spot I could barely hear the 3.1. So much for specs. I'll bet the 03's were twice as loud if not more.
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Subwoofers are probably more than any other part of the Hi-Fi/HT equipment sensitive to room, placement and settings and proper integration with main speakers is crucial.
Without optimal placement and room correction EQ subs could hardly sound ok.
Finding optimal settings without measurements is impossible.

And yes, there are some subwoofers which are more sensitive to placement and settings and others which are less, and almost by definition, smaller and less potent (sealed) subs are easier for setup.

E.g. above mentioned SB13-Ultra can be "boomy" only if not set right. I'm not saying it's "musical" as much as JL Audio Fathom, but it could hardly be called "boomy".

It would be great if we all had proper FR measurments of systems we are discussing about.
That's the only way to get some (pretty rough) "picture" about some system without hearing it.
Spot on post, as most (companies and or Manufactures) all use their own version of specific software that is built into their software.. Example Audyssey, YPAO etc.. and many more popping up, most people think set it and forget it, even though you use these room calibration software that's in most HT Receivers these days, the settings can still be way off. I found Yamaha YPAO tends to be more accurate than Audyssey based on my experience with them, but even by using the software the subs always seem to be set way to soft and the need too manually adjust them always comes into play. Not sure if Dynaudio has their own version as lately I see a ton of more manufactures getting into this role. Any sub can sound boomy if not setup correctly, hell a lot of dealers don't even come close to doing this right.

Speaking of Dynaudio World Wide Stereo has crazy prices still on many of the Dynaudio speakers. $900 for a pair of Xeo 2
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Hi all. Just registered, but have been lurking around already for some time on this forum. I'm currently in the process of going from a 10-year old 5.1 system to a more decent 2.0 system and have been listening to various alternatives and will mostly likely get a pair of C20 during the weekend. I've listened to them on a few occasions and thought they sounded good with the Hegel H360 integrated amp (which I also like for aesthetic reasons).

My question is, is it worth going for the H360 (2 x 420 w/pc into 4 ohms) or would it be sufficient with the newer and smaller H190 (2 x 250w/pc into 4 ohms)?

The gear will be placed in our living room and I'm aiming at keeping a rather small footprint, i.e. I'm not planning to add any separate DAC, pre-amp, vinyl player or anything like that. Music will be streamed and will also use them for watching movies. We might move to a bigger place in the future and if I would then look at some bigger floor standers I would like to not having to upgrade the amp too. I mostly play music at moderate levels, but from time to time I like to turn it up a bit.

Both the H190 and H360 are currently priced the same (due to good discounts on the H360 which is soon to be replaced). I like the new display on the H190 as well that it has an inbuilt headphone output and I've seen people saying that the H190 has a better sound compared to H360 (not sure in what aspect and/or if I would notice anything), but on the other hand having more power could be nice. I haven't yet listened to H190, but I can hopefully do that during the weekend.

In my shoes, which one would you choose out of H360 vs H190?
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Hi all. Just registered, but have been lurking around already for some time on this forum. I'm currently in the process of going from a 10-year old 5.1 system to a more decent 2.0 system and have been listening to various alternatives and will mostly likely get a pair of C20 during the weekend. I've listened to them on a few occasions and thought they sounded good with the Hegel H360 integrated amp (which I also like for aesthetic reasons).



My question is, is it worth going for the H360 (2 x 420 w/pc into 4 ohms) or would it be sufficient with the newer and smaller H190 (2 x 250w/pc into 4 ohms)?



The gear will be placed in our living room and I'm aiming at keeping a rather small footprint, i.e. I'm not planning to add any separate DAC, pre-amp, vinyl player or anything like that. Music will be streamed and will also use them for watching movies. We might move to a bigger place in the future and if I would then look at some bigger floor standers I would like to not having to upgrade the amp too. I mostly play music at moderate levels, but from time to time I like to turn it up a bit.



Both the H190 and H360 are currently priced the same (due to good discounts on the H360 which is soon to be replaced). I like the new display on the H190 as well that it has an inbuilt headphone output and I've seen people saying that the H190 has a better sound compared to H360 (not sure in what aspect and/or if I would notice anything), but on the other hand having more power could be nice. I haven't yet listened to H190, but I can hopefully do that during the weekend.



In my shoes, which one would you choose out of H360 vs H190?

2x250w seems to me enough headroom. And add newer design and headphone out and you’re ready to go.
Did you also try the ( maybe more efficient) S40?, or enter highend with some soon discontinued C1,s?

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Hi all. Just registered, but have been lurking around already for some time on this forum. I'm currently in the process of going from a 10-year old 5.1 system to a more decent 2.0 system and have been listening to various alternatives and will mostly likely get a pair of C20 during the weekend. I've listened to them on a few occasions and thought they sounded good with the Hegel H360 integrated amp (which I also like for aesthetic reasons).

My question is, is it worth going for the H360 (2 x 420 w/pc into 4 ohms) or would it be sufficient with the newer and smaller H190 (2 x 250w/pc into 4 ohms)?

The gear will be placed in our living room and I'm aiming at keeping a rather small footprint, i.e. I'm not planning to add any separate DAC, pre-amp, vinyl player or anything like that. Music will be streamed and will also use them for watching movies. We might move to a bigger place in the future and if I would then look at some bigger floor standers I would like to not having to upgrade the amp too. I mostly play music at moderate levels, but from time to time I like to turn it up a bit.

Both the H190 and H360 are currently priced the same (due to good discounts on the H360 which is soon to be replaced). I like the new display on the H190 as well that it has an inbuilt headphone output and I've seen people saying that the H190 has a better sound compared to H360 (not sure in what aspect and/or if I would notice anything), but on the other hand having more power could be nice. I haven't yet listened to H190, but I can hopefully do that during the weekend.

In my shoes, which one would you choose out of H360 vs H190?
I have owned many of the Hegel units and they mate well with Dynaudio. The 360 is a beast and has a ton of raw power and has a nice Dac in it to boot and will do High Rez files as well (as both units do).. Both use their patented SoundEngine2 Technology which helps reduce distortion. The H190 basically replaces the H160 which was one of their best sellers but with the new SoundEngine2 in the H190 as Hegel states it gives better woofer control and a better damping factor around 4000, bigger soundstage and more details and clearer sound etc.. Now looking at the specs one would think the H360 would be the cats meow, but the best thing would to have both units side by side and make the determination on what sounds better to "Your" ears on your speakers! not always easy to do.

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2x250w seems to me enough headroom. And add newer design and headphone out and you’re ready to go.
Did you also try the ( maybe more efficient) S40?, or enter highend with some soon discontinued C1,s?
I haven't been able to audition the S40, however I like the look of C20 a bit more and my current listening position is around 3.5 meters / 11.5 feet from my speakers so I feel the C20 would fit nicely (room is about 4.8 x 4.8m / 16 x 16 ft).

I have actually been glancing at the C1 Platinum as well, but haven't been able to listen to them either unfortunately. Feels though like I've been reading all tests of them that can be found online. I somehow like the look of the C1 too and could get a used pair of C1 Pt for around 1000 EUR more than a new pair of C20 Listening on lower volumes should be quite pleasant with the C1 MKII version it seems, but the C20 would be able to handle higher SPL. Still I feel that the current C1 could feel a bit outdated soon. Tough decisions! Maybe if the price of the used C1 Pt was a bit less, hmm..
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I have owned many of the Hegel units and they mate well with Dynaudio. The 360 is a beast and has a ton of raw power and has a nice Dac in it to boot and will do High Rez files as well (as both units do).. Both use their patented SoundEngine2 Technology which helps reduce distortion. The H190 basically replaces the H160 which was one of their best sellers but with the new SoundEngine2 in the H190 as Hegel states it gives better woofer control and a better damping factor around 4000, bigger soundstage and more details and clearer sound etc.. Now looking at the specs one would think the H360 would be the cats meow, but the best thing would to have both units side by side and make the determination on what sounds better to "Your" ears on your speakers! not always easy to do.
In reality I guess I would be pleased with either of them, but I always find it difficult choosing between two similar ones where both have some advantages. Hopefully I will be able to listen to both side by side in a day or two.
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I haven't been able to audition the S40, however I like the look of C20 a bit more and my current listening position is around 3.5 meters / 11.5 feet from my speakers so I feel the C20 would fit nicely (room is about 4.8 x 4.8m / 16 x 16 ft).



I have actually been glancing at the C1 Platinum as well, but haven't been able to listen to them either unfortunately. Feels though like I've been reading all tests of them that can be found online. I somehow like the look of the C1 too and could get a used pair of C1 Pt for around 1000 EUR more than a new pair of C20 Listening on lower volumes should be quite pleasant with the C1 MKII version it seems, but the C20 would be able to handle higher SPL. Still I feel that the current C1 could feel a bit outdated soon. Tough decisions! Maybe if the price of the used C1 Pt was a bit less, hmm..


Dynaudio C1 Platinum are being offered around here now for 5k euro (new) or 5k demo in mocha finish.
Dealers give a nice discount because new model is on its way.

The C20 retails 4,5keuro.

The C1 may feel outdated, but they will be part of the game for still a long time i think.

And if you come from 5.1 and still like to watch movies through your hifi setup: the C1 have great texture in mids and dynamics. You wont miss you’re other 4 speakers too much.
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JL Audio is NOT a subwoofer only manufacturer. They are a car audio brand before anything else who made their name in home audio with their superb subwoofers. They make numerous amplifiers, component sets, coaxials, and subwoofers. They are a leader in the car audio world as far as good sounding class D amplification. This is one of the reasons their home audio subwoofer designs sound good. They have their own class D designs, and their own subwoofer designs. It's all them from start to finish.

However, I do agree with the point you were trying to make. JL Audio excels at subwoofer technology in car and home audio application. Dynaudio has always had a half ***ed attempt at making subwoofers. In my experience, Dynaudio makes subwoofers that aren't meant to play at high SPL (similar to their now old speaker designs). JL makes subs that sound good and play to extremes levels. Dynaudio has the Esotar 1200 car audio subwoofer, but I'm not sure they ever used it in a good home audio application. I'm not sure why.

Maybe, some more complaining about Dynaudio's subwoofers will get them to really put in an effort, just like they've done recently with their full range speakers to improve bass response and SPL level capabilities. I have not heard their new subwoofer releases, but no one seems to be raving about them either.
Ok,let me reword it...they are a subwoofer specialist,and I am well aware of their car Audio gear,I had JL subs in two of my F 350’s.

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Hi all. Just registered, but have been lurking around already for some time on this forum. I'm currently in the process of going from a 10-year old 5.1 system to a more decent 2.0 system and have been listening to various alternatives and will mostly likely get a pair of C20 during the weekend. I've listened to them on a few occasions and thought they sounded good with the Hegel H360 integrated amp (which I also like for aesthetic reasons).

My question is, is it worth going for the H360 (2 x 420 w/pc into 4 ohms) or would it be sufficient with the newer and smaller H190 (2 x 250w/pc into 4 ohms)?

The gear will be placed in our living room and I'm aiming at keeping a rather small footprint, i.e. I'm not planning to add any separate DAC, pre-amp, vinyl player or anything like that. Music will be streamed and will also use them for watching movies. We might move to a bigger place in the future and if I would then look at some bigger floor standers I would like to not having to upgrade the amp too. I mostly play music at moderate levels, but from time to time I like to turn it up a bit.

Both the H190 and H360 are currently priced the same (due to good discounts on the H360 which is soon to be replaced). I like the new display on the H190 as well that it has an inbuilt headphone output and I've seen people saying that the H190 has a better sound compared to H360 (not sure in what aspect and/or if I would notice anything), but on the other hand having more power could be nice. I haven't yet listened to H190, but I can hopefully do that during the weekend.

In my shoes, which one would you choose out of H360 vs H190?
H360 for sure. I push my C20s with an amp rated 450/channel to 4 ohms. C20s love some juice and really open up.
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Speaking of Dynaudio World Wide Stereo has crazy prices still on many of the Dynaudio speakers. $900 for a pair of Xeo 2

I was looking for a pair of wireless speakers and was considering the KEF LSX since I own other KEF speakers but decided to give the Xeo 2 a try based on reviews and because of sale. WWS had an extra $100 off when I ordered. I'll report back when I get them - due to arrive tomorrow.

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I was looking for a pair of wireless speakers and was considering the KEF LSX since I own other KEF speakers but decided to give the Xeo 2 a try based on reviews and because of sale. WWS had an extra $100 off when I ordered. I'll report back when I get them - due to arrive tomorrow.
Order both and keep the best one?

I've heard the LSX. Great connectivity and the sound....wow.

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Both the H190 and H360 are currently priced the same (due to good discounts on the H360 which is soon to be replaced). I like the new display on the H190 as well that it has an inbuilt headphone output and I've seen people saying that the H190 has a better sound compared to H360 (not sure in what aspect and/or if I would notice anything), but on the other hand having more power could be nice. I haven't yet listened to H190, but I can hopefully do that during the weekend.

In my shoes, which one would you choose out of H360 vs H190?
IMO, all Hegel amps excel in staging, and have great clarity and sense of space. They really are great amps.

Hegel does very small incremental upgrades, so the previous model designs are almost identical to their new amps. Normally, the new amplifiers get small upgrades to the internal DAC's, and the "SoundEngine" daughter boards; which are a very small part of their design, but are a large part of their marketing. I'd try to listen to some version of each design before buying, so you can get an idea of the sound of that PCB design.

Almost identical internal design - H160 and H190

Almost identical internal design - H300 and H360 (the H200 is also very close, but without a built in DAC)

Unless you need a crazy amount of power and slightly better DAC in the H360, I'd choose an H160 or H190. Even those two amps deliver 250 watts per channel at 4 ohms.
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Just bought Bluesound Node 2i for my Dynaudio Xeo 30. They are connected via Toslink meaning Node 2i doing only streaming duties (no DAC and "only" 24/96 MQAs). Comparing this setup (playing Tidal) with previous PC -> Dynaudio Connect (via USB) -> Xeo 30...just wow!
It's such a big difference in SQ across the board! Stage, details, even 3D sound.....very impressed!
I haven't tried the analog way.

I’d suggest anyone buying Xeo/Focus XD and Dynaudio transmitter to pass on Connect/Hub transmitter. Save a few more bucks and get the Node 2i. It does everything better and has all the connections, options, apps, BT, AptX HD,... BluOS app for it is second to none!
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Just bought Bluesound Node 2i for my Dynaudio Xeo 30. They are connected via Toslink meaning Node 2i doing only streaming duties (no DAC and "only" 24/96 MQAs). Comparing this setup (playing Tidal) with previous PC -> Dynaudio Connect (via USB) -> Xeo 30...just wow!
It's such a big difference in SQ across the board! Stage, details, even 3D sound.....very impressed!
I haven't tried the analog way.

I’d suggest anyone buying Xeo/Focus XD and Dynaudio transmitter to pass on Connect/Hub transmitter. Save a few more bucks and get the Node 2i. It does everything better and has all the connections, options, apps, BT, AptX HD,... BluOS app for it is second to none!
Do try the analog output and report back, please.

What I love about the Bluesound gear as much as the sound quality is the BluOS interface. Very easy to use and deceptively capable of so many ways to work with a playlist made up of tracks from multiple sources. You can start with one song and just keep adding as you switch sources, save it, change it up and save it with a new name. Many sources available, more coming all the time, though slowly. Fortunately, free updates to both firmware and apps.

I wonder now how @CDLehner is doing with the NAD C658. Did it come in?
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Just bought Bluesound Node 2i for my Dynaudio Xeo 30. They are connected via Toslink meaning Node 2i doing only streaming duties (no DAC and "only" 24/96 MQAs). Comparing this setup (playing Tidal) with previous PC -> Dynaudio Connect (via USB) -> Xeo 30...just wow!
It's such a big difference in SQ across the board! Stage, details, even 3D sound.....very impressed!
I haven't tried the analog way.

I’d suggest anyone buying Xeo/Focus XD and Dynaudio transmitter to pass on Connect/Hub transmitter. Save a few more bucks and get the Node 2i. It does everything better and has all the connections, options, apps, BT, AptX HD,... BluOS app for it is second to none!
Do try the analog output and report back, please.

What I love about the Bluesound gear as much as the sound quality is the BluOS interface. Very easy to use and deceptively capable of so many ways to work with a playlist made up of tracks from multiple sources. You can start with one song and just keep adding as you switch sources, save it, change it up and save it with a new name. Many sources available, more coming all the time, though slowly. Fortunately, free updates to both firmware and apps.

I wonder now how @CDLehner is doing with the NAD C658. Did it come in?
Will try RCA with and without Node’s DAC and report back.
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Do try the analog output and report back, please.

What I love about the Bluesound gear as much as the sound quality is the BluOS interface. Very easy to use and deceptively capable of so many ways to work with a playlist made up of tracks from multiple sources. You can start with one song and just keep adding as you switch sources, save it, change it up and save it with a new name. Many sources available, more coming all the time, though slowly. Fortunately, free updates to both firmware and apps.

I wonder now how @CDLehner is doing with the NAD C658. Did it come in?
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