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How about Dynaudio Evoke 20 or Special forty?

Are contour 20 better than the Special Forty?
Let just say they all sound different, all depends on what your looking for, I haven't heard the Evoke's yet, but have owned the Special 40's and Contour 20's and own a pair of Confidence C2's. The S40s are a great speaker, it will highly dependent on room size placement and what type of music you listen too. For me the Contour just had more of a good thing, better high's and more defined bass, but in my room the Contour are just about the right size for a monitor. The word "Better" is relative to what you like, the Special 40's will sound better in a smaller room and tend to play all sorts of music with easy, and I found them easier to drive, than the Contour 20's. The S40 are 6ohms and the Contour are rated at 4ohms, and crossover topology is slightly different.

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Let just say they all sound different, all depends on what your looking for, I haven't heard the Evoke's yet, but have owned the Special 40's and Contour 20's and own a pair of Confidence C2's. The S40s are a great speaker, it will highly dependent on room size placement and what type of music you listen too. For me the Contour just had more of a good thing, better high's and more defined bass, but in my room the Contour are just about the right size for a monitor. The word "Better" is relative to what you like, the Special 40's will sound better in a smaller room and tend to play all sorts of music with easy, and I found them easier to drive, than the Contour 20's. The S40 are 6ohms and the Contour are rated at 4ohms, and crossover topology is slightly different.
I guess the countur 20 was burned in, what about the special forty? I read someone mentioned of 100 hours of burn in for the Contours 20 i think it was.
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I guess the countur 20 was burned in, what about the special forty? I read someone mentioned of 100 hours of burn in for the Contours 20 i think it was.
My contour 20 took way more then 100 hours. Probably closer to 300 hours but going from memory here. The Special 40s took much less in my case.

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I guess the countur 20 was burned in, what about the special forty? I read someone mentioned of 100 hours of burn in for the Contours 20 i think it was.
Michael Larsen: The Special 40s (1+ years) were well burned in, so they had the advantage, but right out of the box the Contour 20's sounded better to my ears, so it was a pretty easy decision. I might of had very few hours on the Contour 20, but in my case didn't matter, I noticed a positive difference in what I liked female voices just sounded more detailed and instruments seemed more life like.

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I guess the countur 20 was burned in, what about the special forty? I read someone mentioned of 100 hours of burn in for the Contours 20 i think it was.
I feel like my Contour 20s sounded a lot, lot better after 50 hours.
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I feel like my Contour 20s sounded a lot, lot better after 50 hours.


When I had my 20s new, I felt the spider was very stiff out of the box. After 75-100 hours it began to loosen up which definitely helped the low end detail and depth. Same occurrence with my Contour 30s. But after 250 hours It was pretty dramatic. I can hit down to 28Hz in my room. It’s crazy.


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Ok. So I’m not a huge fan of Taylor Swift, but damn her Reputation album has a ton of dynamic range and is very well produced. Sounds phenomenal on these C30s.


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Ok. So I’m not a huge fan of Taylor Swift, but damn her Reputation album has a ton of dynamic range and is very well produced. Sounds phenomenal on these C30s.


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Not a huge fan...but still a swiftee?

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Lol, you can keep Taylor all to yourself, I prefer classic rock top pop myself. This track is the story of my life to a tee, R.I.P. Jack Bruce.On the way to work today I almost rear-ended a car...I blew a brake line, the poopy part is, now I have to spend money I was saving for Audio gear on my car. From one of my better Concert bluerays.

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I feel like my Contour 20s sounded a lot, lot better after 50 hours.


When I had my 20s new, I felt the spider was very stiff out of the box. After 75-100 hours it began to loosen up which definitely helped the low end detail and depth. Same occurrence with my Contour 30s. But after 250 hours It was pretty dramatic. I can hit down to 28Hz in my room. It’️s crazy.


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How about Dynaudio Evoke 20 or Special forty?

Are contour 20 better than the Special Forty?
IMO they are as they should be, Contour 20 > S40 > E20, however the E20's are really close to the S40's just not as refined, and maybe a little more lively.

If I ever have to downsize it will probably be to a combo of those. C20's as mains, S40's in parallel as a center and E20's for rears and I'd probably do a Sub6 or 2...
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Lol, you can keep Taylor all to yourself, I prefer classic rock top pop myself. This track is the story of my life to a tee, R.I.P. Jack Bruce.On the way to work today I almost rear-ended a car...I blew a brake line, the poopy part is, now I have to spend money I was saving for Audio gear on my car. From one of my better Concert bluerays.
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Wow, blowing a brake line is one of my biggest fears, especially at the race track... Good to hear you didn't get in a wreck because of it though!
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Yes kind of what you said, depends on what I can get the better deal with really. The Sopra’️s would be my choice to keep, for a few reasons...the XD’️s are not as refined sounding like you say, the Sopra’️s work better at low volume (which I need in an apartment) ,I want to try driving the Sopra’️s directly off the TT2, I prefer their look. The XD’️s play loud, loud enough to get me evicted from here, but I can never use that if I stay here.The price of real-estate has sky rocketed so much here, that it is much more economical for me to stay in this apartment, I am 54 in August, hate cutting grass and doing yard work (always have), so I want the best sounding system I can get with the option of using headphones too, in all these scenarios, the Sopra’️s just make more sense.But, I will not give either one away, realistically, I know what I paid for each set of speakers, don’️ t expect to get anywhere near that now, but I also have no problem just hanging on to both sets, if no deal can be made. The guy was fair when I dealt with him last time, so I will know more soon enough.
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Hi guys. What is best from these:

- Dynaudio DM 2/7
- Dynaudio X16
- Dynaudio 52
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Hi guys. What is best from these:

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- Dynaudio X16
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The Audience (52s) we’re replaced by the Excites, the DMs have always been below the Excites. So the Excites should be the better. I owned the X16s, loved them, they were the first Dynaudio speaker I ever owned. If that helps you!
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The Audience (52s) we’re replaced by the Excites, the DMs have always been below the Excites. So the Excites should be the better. I owned the X16s, loved them, they were the first Dynaudio speaker I ever owned. If that helps you!

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Hi Line arrived yet?
Yes, it showed up today, along with AV Options Super Wiremold and a deep cryo power cable. They are all sitting in boxes behind my listening room sofa, where I am sitting now relaxing to some music on the NDX2.

I was in Kansas City yesterday and today and just got back. I spend 5 hours riding a very challenging gravel bicycle race this morning, had lunch and drove back this afternoon/evening. I am spent. I'll unpack all that stuff and mess around with it tomorrow.

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Hi all, a new Dynaudio user here.

I did the unthinkable. I sold my JBL 530's and my pre/pro and poweramps are for sale. No more surround.

Now I got two Xeo 6's and the connect. That's the old wireless Xeo range (now replaced by the Xeo 30). That means you can get them with some discount now. Since I could return them in a month it gives me time enough if I can live with the downsides. My first impressions are very decent. I can live with this set. At first it seems a bit too small in the living room. Though I gave it some time and decided it is exactly the right size - you see it's there but in no way it will dominate your living room.

Don't know if I am now considered a heretic now... since I abandoned analogue except my record player (Numark TTX2 non USB). Though that one has an internal DAC and streams digitally to the Connect. My HTPC is connected through USB, CD player is connected optically. The connect box has enough inputs for me. And what's fun, you can seamlessly A/B sources. Like is optical worse than sp/diff? Or how does the A/D converter do?

No, they do not nearly have the sheer power my former setup had. But the WAF is immensely higher and I don't have any stress anymore when the misses wants to move furniture (and therefore changing the listening position) around (like once every half year). I'm done with wires.

Only thing I can't get to work is the DLNA playback from the Synology NAS. I imagined it would be possible to use my iPad and select and stream music to the Connect. Tried a couple of apps no luck. For now I give up unless somebody has an idea ;-)

The jury is still out if I add my old subwoofer to the setup using the Link. Haven't had the chance to use it with movies. It has some 6 hours of playing time now, I'm wondering whether the sound will change.
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Yes, it showed up today, along with AV Options Super Wiremold and a deep cryo power cable. They are all sitting in boxes behind my listening room sofa, where I am sitting now relaxing to some music on the NDX2.

I was in Kansas City yesterday and today and just got back. I spend 5 hours riding a very challenging gravel bicycle race this morning, had lunch and drove back this afternoon/evening. I am spent. I'll unpack all that stuff and mess around with it tomorrow.
I was curious as to what is a Super Wiremold was, and found photos on their website. I'm baffled as to why they would pack all those outlets so close to each other. They actually show photos of the power cables they're trying to sell that are big enough to block the adjacent outlet, rendering it unusable. It seems to me that if they had simply made the glorified power strip a little longer and put more space between the sockets, they'd sell more of both.

Weird.

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Hi all, a new Dynaudio user here.

I did the unthinkable. I sold my JBL 530's and my pre/pro and poweramps are for sale. No more surround.

Now I got two Xeo 6's and the connect. That's the old wireless Xeo range (now replaced by the Xeo 30). That means you can get them with some discount now. Since I could return them in a month it gives me time enough if I can live with the downsides. My first impressions are very decent. I can live with this set. At first it seems a bit too small in the living room. Though I gave it some time and decided it is exactly the right size - you see it's there but in no way it will dominate your living room.

Don't know if I am now considered a heretic now... since I abandoned analogue except my record player (Numark TTX2 non USB). Though that one has an internal DAC and streams digitally to the Connect. My HTPC is connected through USB, CD player is connected optically. The connect box has enough inputs for me. And what's fun, you can seamlessly A/B sources. Like is optical worse than sp/diff? Or how does the A/D converter do?

No, they do not nearly have the sheer power my former setup had. But the WAF is immensely higher and I don't have any stress anymore when the misses wants to move furniture (and therefore changing the listening position) around (like once every half year). I'm done with wires.

Only thing I can't get to work is the DLNA playback from the Synology NAS. I imagined it would be possible to use my iPad and select and stream music to the Connect. Tried a couple of apps no luck. For now I give up unless somebody has an idea 😉

The jury is still out if I add my old subwoofer to the setup using the Link. Haven't had the chance to use it with movies. It has some 6 hours of playing time now, I'm wondering whether the sound will change.
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I was curious as to what is a Super Wiremold was, and found photos on their website. I'm baffled as to why they would pack all those outlets so close to each other. They actually show photos of the power cables they're trying to sell that are big enough to block the adjacent outlet, rendering it unusable. It seems to me that if they had simply made the glorified power strip a little longer and put more space between the sockets, they'd sell more of both.

Weird.
They just take the original Wiremold – which has been recommended by Naim for ages – and modify it. I think it's fine as is. I wouldn't want it to be longer.

Maybe this one suits you better.
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They just take the original Wiremold – which has been recommended by Naim for ages – and modify it. I think it's fine as is. I wouldn't want it to be longer.

Maybe this one suits you better.
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LOL...that would never happen. I have many other upgrades to do before I'd ever think about spending more than $50 on a power strip.

To each their own.

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Hi Line arrived yet?
The Hiline was sort of a PITA to get it connected and dressed properly, but I plan to keep it.

At first I tried the Nordost Red Dawn RCA IC (about $550). I thought it provided no real improvement over the Naim lavender DIN IC. On some things it was just a little more open and detailed, but not on most, so I certainly couldn’t justify the extra cost.

Next I tried a Nordost Heimdall II RCA IC (about $760). This one improves consistently over the Naim lavender (and Red Dawn). It’s more open, more dynamic, has better clarity and the music just flows better.

I got the HiLine DIN IC at a decent price (less than cost of Nordost Red Dawn). Comparing it to the Heimdall II it’s a bit better again. More open, dynamic and more musical. It’s a no brainer to keep the HiLine, so that’s where I end up after a couple weeks trying different things.

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I was curious as to what is a Super Wiremold was, and found photos on their website. I'm baffled as to why they would pack all those outlets so close to each other. They actually show photos of the power cables they're trying to sell that are big enough to block the adjacent outlet, rendering it unusable. It seems to me that if they had simply made the glorified power strip a little longer and put more space between the sockets, they'd sell more of both.

Weird.

Wiremold (Legrand) is not an audio company. They make better than normal quality power strips. Usually, medical grade. I own the L10320, which is the same strip without the cryo treatment and different end plug. It cost me $80 a few years ago. It's a good no nonsense power strip with quality construction. I'll pass on the cryo BS.
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Wiremold (Legrand) is not an audio company. They make better than normal quality power strips. Usually, medical grade. I own the L10320, which is the same strip without the cryo treatment and different end plug. It cost me $80 a few years ago. It's a good no nonsense power strip with quality construction. I'll pass on the cryo BS.
I would have normally just gotten another Wiremold, but I just sold my Esotar2 which didn't move for 6 months. When AV Options put it on sale, I thought 'what the hell,' I'll try it with the cash I wasn't expecting to have anyway. It also paid for the used Naim Hiline cable. So in the end I don't have a pair of Esotar2, which I wasn't using and I do have a HiLine and SuperWiremold, which I am using. No regrets.

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There’s a few people here with active speakers, it may take them a few to chime in, they’re not as active as those with the passive versions so you may need to be patient or share things as you discover them. Glad to hear you like them so far!
Thanks! I do like them, though they are a bit polite for some rock/metal recordings. But then I’m listening to a Tool album right now and that sounds pretty good. Regarding the DLNA streaming I contacted the Dynaudio service desk, they replied pretty fast and friendly. I have them some more info, hopefully that’s enough to come up with an idea.

I like the clarity and soundstage most. Miss the deepest bass (though it should go down to 31Hz) but then, it just might not be in the recording at all.... some electronic music albums (when engineering was still an art) go down quite deep. So I’m like where did that came from?
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Wow, blowing a brake line is one of my biggest fears, especially at the race track... Good to hear you didn't get in a wreck because of it though!
I took the car to the garage on Saturday,all the brake lines are rotted, along with fuel lines, needs tires,tie rod -ends...so I am junking the car. Funny thing related to Dynaudio, I bought it from my local dealer 5 years ago, basically a 3K beater to get me around. Today I bought a 2012 GMC Sierra 4x4 with 90 k Kilometers in great shape, so I am happy, but less money for Audio now...

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I took the car to the garage on Saturday,all the brake lines are rotted, along with fuel lines, needs tires,tie rod -ends...so I am junking the car. Funny thing related to Dynaudio, I bought it from my local dealer 5 years ago, basically a 3K beater to get me around. Today I bought a 2012 GMC Sierra 4x4 with 90 k Kilometers in great shape, so I am happy, but less money for Audio now...
I am with you, if your up in the Great White North, not sure if they salt the roads, but if you don't get your vehicle undercoated everything ends up that way! Beamers even though they get a bad rap for repairs, hold up quite well for rust etc.. I got this car as a project car, but ironically with 130K on it, it barely needs any work, possibly a Valve Gasket, very small leak, but I have replaced those before, 35 dollar part, but I love on how some dealers/repair shops want to charge $500-$1500 for it, ridiculous. I had to explain to the guy put colored oil, in for a few months run it, and then check with a blue-light to see where the leaks are coming from, guy looked at me all puzzled, so I went to another shop where they get it. Cars/kids/home repairs everything is eating into my audio budget, I might be down to my Music 5 systems in a couple of months at this rate!
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