Originally Posted by GTaudiophile
A few points:
1. I have seen Confidence in plenty of places in Europe. In fact. I just saw Cf20 at a tiny Berlin dealer back in October. Inventory doesn't seem to be the issue, so it begs the question, why are they slow in coming to the US?
2. Price isn't everything, actually. I have now dealt with Tyler a few times and building a relationship with good people who offer good service means something. Do you know how many HiFi dealers I have met who come off as sleazy, used-car, snake-oil salesmen? It is nice to find people in this business who don't immediately cause the hair on your neck to stand up and your stomach to churn.
3. Do I really think Otto watches this forum constantly? No. He probably checks in once a month. I probably would do the same if I was "attacked" the second I surfaced on here. He is just the messenger.
4. Why are used Dynaudio values plummeting? Why are dealers sour with the brand? Have they become too pedestrian? Not exclusive enough? The next Klipsch or GoldenEar? Too much emphasis on volume sales now? Does it have to do with the Chinese ownership? If that is the case, why do we also give a "pass" to Raidho and BØRRESEN as their cabinets are made in China?
Granted, I have only auditioned maybe 1% of the brands out there. I have auditioned Raidho once at a HiFi show. I have never heard BØRRESEN. I have heard Klipsch and GoldenEar. I have heard Focal, Wilson, PMC, Harbeth, Paradigm, DALI, B&W, KEF, Tekton, Avalon Acoustics, TAD, and Monitor Audio. I still contend, to my ears, that somehow Dynaudio manages to squeeze more dynamics - foot-tapping sound from the highs to the mids to the bass - out of a small "wooden" box than anyone else, especially considering bang-for-buck. Of the brands that I just mentioned, only Avalon and TAD have pleased my ears more and they cost many many many times more than what I can afford.
My personal opinion is Dynaudio has limited supply of the Confidence line, and therefore are going to be very specific to what dealers get them and the ones that do not based on availability at least for 2020... Since there are so many dealers in Chicago area I can see only a few dealers having access to them which again is limited for various reasons mentioned in this thread by many.
1.) Quality concerns maybe on where cabinets are made which is still in question.
2.) Totally agree, but there are others and anyone have a good dealer they work with PM me.. Since we do not have any in Wisconsin.
3.) Once a month seems about right, but he should answer direct questions with direct answers.. Some people just won't care where the cabinets are from, some will.
4.) I think they are branching out trying to become a bigger brand, especially when you see them on Audio Advisor/Music Direct and World Wide Stereo for sale online..
Agree with you on your last statement about Dyn's, and I do love the sound of TAD as well.
Peter on here did a nice write up on his blog as he has had first hand experience via a plant tour, but a lot could have changed by now since that was back in May of 2018...
But this is like kicking a dead horse topic that hasn't changed much in 2+ years!
Dynaudio Confidence C2 Platinums (Mocca), Dynaudio Contour 20's (Grey Oak) KEF LS50 (Black), Magnepan 1.7i, Belles VT-01/MB-200s, NAD M10, Hegel, Musical Fidelity and various other good brands.. HT system: Dynaudio SCX Center, Dynaudio In-Walls for Surrounds and Sony VPL-295ES possibly a new Monitor in the future.
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