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callas01: Not sure what you where using with the KEF LS50 when you had them, but after having them for 5 days in my main system with my main Belles gear, I almost didn't sell them! Compared to the Contour 20, they don't have the class to keep up, but at $899 right now, I would say they would be the speaker to beat under 2K and under, pretty impressive. Very impressive in near field, I am tempted to get the LSX version for my office and just get rid of all the other clutter.... I just put two sets of smaller speakers up for sale and a small Teac Int. I been using in my office, just simplifying and moving stuff sitting out...

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So the new Contour i-series was released about a month ago as I understand it.

Is there anyone here on the forum that has listened to them, or are there any reviews published?

I'm particularly interested in the Contour 30i, but general listening impressions from any model in the new i-series would be very appreciated. Especially comparisons with the previous non-i Contour models, and how they differ sound-wise.
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So the new Contour i-series was released about a month ago as I understand it.

Is there anyone here on the forum that has listened to them, or are there any reviews published?

I'm particularly interested in the Contour 30i, but general listening impressions from any model in the new i-series would be very appreciated. Especially comparisons with the previous non-i Contour models, and how they differ sound-wise.
I'm a member of two Dynaudio groups on Facebook. The original versus "i" question has come up from a few people, all of which have listened to the new version. Some, likely from dealers, have posted some hyperbole about the new speaker, calling it significantly better. A common phrase is that the bass digs deeper. Still others say they prefer the sound of the old speaker, saying the original are more true to the Dynaudio house sound. Others also question the materials used in the new version; some argue the new one went on a cost cutting diet. The new one does weigh like 1.5kg less than the old if I recall. That's about it. There are one or two formal reviews of the "i" out there and they don't mention anything significant versus the original.

There are quite a few mint used Contour 30 out there. Brilliant speaker!
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I'm a member of two Dynaudio groups on Facebook. The original versus "i" question has come up from a few people, all of which have listened to the new version. Some, likely from dealers, have posted some hyperbole about the new speaker, calling it significantly better. A common phrase is that the bass digs deeper. Still others say they prefer the sound of the old speaker, saying the original are more true to the Dynaudio house sound. Others also question the materials used in the new version; some argue the new one went on a cost cutting diet. The new one does weigh like 1.5kg less than the old if I recall. That's about it. There are one or two formal reviews of the "i" out there and they don't mention anything significant versus the original.

There are quite a few mint used Contour 30 out there. Brilliant speaker!
Ok, so mixed impressions so far then. I checked the weight, and the Contour 30 is 34.4 kg, and the new Contour 30i is 31.4 kg. So there's definitely a weight difference like you said. There's are non-weight-dependent improvements on the 30i though; new Esotar 2i tweeter, new crossover, and new woofer spider suspension.

Hard to know what all the differences amounts to sound quality-wise. Regarding the bass that you said it digs a bit deeper on the 30i. I hope this does not make it less tight though (the review in paragraph below indicates that it's actually tighter, so no worries there perhaps). Also, according to the tech specs the lower frequency response threshold is still 32 Hz.

Regarding reviews, I found one of the Contour 20i from hifi.nl in Dutch, Google translated to English here. In general it was very positive. Have you found any reviews of the i-Series in addition to this one (a link would be appreciated in that case)?
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Ok, so mixed impressions so far then. I checked the weight, and the Contour 30 is 34.4 kg, and the new Contour 30i is 31.4 kg. So there's definitely a weight difference like you said. There's are non-weight-dependent improvements on the 30i though; new Esotar 2i tweeter, new crossover, and new woofer spider suspension.

Hard to know what all the differences amounts to sound quality-wise. Regarding the bass that you said it digs a bit deeper on the 30i. I hope this does not make it less tight though (the review in paragraph below indicates that it's actually tighter, so no worries there perhaps). Also, according to the tech specs the lower frequency response threshold is still 32 Hz.

Regarding reviews, I found one of the Contour 20i from hifi.nl in Dutch, Google translated to English here. In general it was very positive. Have you found any reviews of the i-Series in addition to this one (a link would be appreciated in that case)?
If you dont mind translate, a review from c30i same magazine here with compare to c30.

https://hifi.nl/artikel/28950/Review...nismaking.html
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I'm a member of two Dynaudio groups on Facebook. The original versus "i" question has come up from a few people, all of which have listened to the new version. Some, likely from dealers, have posted some hyperbole about the new speaker, calling it significantly better. A common phrase is that the bass digs deeper. Still others say they prefer the sound of the old speaker, saying the original are more true to the Dynaudio house sound. Others also question the materials used in the new version; some argue the new one went on a cost cutting diet. The new one does weigh like 1.5kg less than the old if I recall. That's about it. There are one or two formal reviews of the "i" out there and they don't mention anything significant versus the original.

There are quite a few mint used Contour 30 out there. Brilliant speaker!
I am on a couple of those forums, as though I can't stand "Facebook" lately even false information hits the forums on how much better something is, take it with a grain of salt as Dynaudio Contour series/Special 40 speaker got rave reviews before they changed it to the "i" series, most of the people talking about how much better they are don't have both pairs sitting side by side.. Frankly you can get great deals on current models, the "i" series from my understanding hasn't hit the US yet. Most reviews are going to say they are better, but for them to be "believable" to me, is they have the current versions to compare them... either way you look at it your going to get a great speaker.
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On another note: Trying to declutter and simply, any recommendations on a good computer/office system for music Looking at the KEF LSX/Dynaudio possibly but want a near field speaker "powered" that will sound good without breaking the bank. Been using some NAD/PSB speakers and a small Int. Amp and some other Dali speakers as well, getting rid of all of that to simply it more...

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On another note: Trying to declutter and simply, any recommendations on a good computer/office system for music Looking at the KEF LSX/Dynaudio possibly but want a near field speaker "powered" that will sound good without breaking the bank. Been using some NAD/PSB speakers and a small Int. Amp and some other Dali speakers as well, getting rid of all of that to simply it more...
I've spent time with LSX speakers. Easily 90% of what LS50 Wireless are in sound quality. Get a good app on your desktop PC or phone, stream without using the somewhat inept KEF app.

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CD: What's your take on the KEF, LSX or LS50 as I know you had them at one point... Office system, going to try a good powered speaker set hooked to my computer...
I never had, either powered LS50s; or LSX.

I've certainly, been tempted to buy some LSX; for a Bedroom system, that I've been missing...since I took my pair of Sonos Ones, to the Office.

While I'm sure, the LSX would bury them; you are talking, $1250. vs. 400/pr

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Lol. Harsh but true.
ToddDavid; understandably...you're probably a bit gun-shy. Don't let, any of us; run you off.

Believe it or not; we're a friendly group. Most of us...have been posting a l o n g time; so maybe we're too intolerant of noobies (though we welcome them, enthusiastically, to the Dyn family).

And; we don't like, AVRs much...lol. But please; enjoy those X18s...and stay a part of the community.
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Speaking of volume, how difficult are the X18’s to blow? If the bass is set to 0 [neutral] and the crossover is at 80, can they play to -5 dB on my older Yamaha HTR 6090 that’s allegedly rated at 840 total watts?
When I had a HT system, I found that a very well placed 5.1 or 5.2 was better then a “fit it in” 7.1 system. Currently my main system is 2.1 because my house now doesn’t support a well laid out 5.1 and it’d be hard to mount speakers and run wires without re-drywalling the rooms. My other room has a 3.0 where my kids are. I honestly don’t miss the surround sound system.

I enjoyed Marantz, I had both a 5010 and a 7007 at different times. Better then the Integra 40.1 I had.

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Still others say they prefer the sound of the old speaker, saying the original [Contour] are more true to the Dynaudio house sound [than the new Contour i-series].

Would you care to elaborate on this? Is the original Contour more laid back, and the Contour i-series more forward? Or what does it mean that the Contour i-series is less true to the Dynaudio house sound?
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Would you care to elaborate on this? Is the original Contour more laid back, and the Contour i-series more forward? Or what does it mean that the Contour i-series is less true to the Dynaudio house sound?

House’ sound is a subjective term. Maybe we prefer what we accustomed of and take it as our reference.

Reading the reviews, to me it seems they retained lot of same character.

The tech they use in the new tweeters though, if i compare between esotar 2 and 3, bring out more natural, clearer, faster and much more (micro) detail.
That could be why some prefer older model, maybe they are more foregiving on source?
Or more relaxed, some further soundstage?
But if your source is fine, than ‘new’ dynaudio gives you more layers in music / sound. At least what i expect in new ‘ i ‘ Contour based on new Confidence experience and reading the latest reviews.
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Unfortunately I can’️t spend more than $800-1000 for this first amp, and I don’️t know if I can go the route of a 2 channel integrated on top of a new AVR.

Which of the budget amps will pair the best with the Excites?... and also which AVR brands? Within my budget I think I’️m between a Marantz 6013 and Integra DRX 4.2... or perhaps a Marantz 7012.

Am I better off for the time being just using the AVR’️s amp in 2 channel and maybe grabbing something like an Outlaw 5000 to give everything a boost?
Personally, I would buy a decent used receiver in the $300-400 range, save up just a bit more, and then buy a quality amplifier in the $1,000 range to run your front mains. Something like a used Naim 5si can be had in the $1,000 range.

If you care about warranty, you could buy a smaller Marantz NR1510 from accessories4less for $449. You don't need much power to run a center and a pair of surrounds to begin with. They play limited information. Then save up a little more for a quality 2 channel amp to run your mains.
what about a used Rega Elex R for under a grand?
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OMG years ago before Klipsch bought them... warm speakers. I ended up buying Energy speakers at the time.

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I've done that a few times. In at least three iterations of my HT system, I used a high quality 2-channel integrated with a unity gain/HT bypass input, along with an AVR with pre-out for the front L&R channels. I had my stereo sources going direct to the integrated, and multichannel sources going through the AVR. For me, the priority was to get better sound out of the front L&R channels.
Thanks Red. In that case, should I be wanting an integrated amp capable of streaming its own music [for nights of 2-channel listening], while having my other streaming source running through the AVR for the times I want multi-channel stereo? .... or can I run a single streaming source through the AVR and still have it used by the integrated amp in 2 channel stereo?
I’ve run AVRs with HT Bypass/AV Gain for years, until last year when we bought this house. So call it 12 years or so....

If as you mention above, 2-ch isn’t your preference then don’t worry about an Integrated Amp, just buy a solid receiver I’d say buy something like an Anthem 720. I know it’s over your budget but musically it’ll sound better then the Marantz/Denon and Integra models, I’ve owned both. I even have an Onkyo in my bedroom.

The Anthem is a powerful, uses toroidal transformers, sounds good, can power all the channels you require. Then get a good streaming device later and be complete. It will still sound great in 2-ch if the mood strikes.

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callas01: Not sure what you where using with the KEF LS50 when you had them, but after having them for 5 days in my main system with my main Belles gear, I almost didn't sell them! Compared to the Contour 20, they don't have the class to keep up, but at $899 right now, I would say they would be the speaker to beat under 2K and under, pretty impressive. Very impressive in near field, I am tempted to get the LSX version for my office and just get rid of all the other clutter.... I just put two sets of smaller speakers up for sale and a small Teac Int. I been using in my office, just simplifying and moving stuff sitting out... [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG] .
I listened to them with a T+A R series Integrated amp. And then we switched to S1.4 and finally 380s.
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I've spent time with LSX speakers. Easily 90% of what LS50 Wireless are in sound quality. Get a good app on your desktop PC or phone, stream without using the somewhat inept KEF app.

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Thanks I just sold about 4 pieces of gear and used funds for buying the Aqua Dac which I am extremely pleased with, and I did find a new pair of the KEF LSX in black/grey color that are coming this week. Way too much clutter my desktop and wanted a more clean look.. I was going to look at a pair of 110A which I had before or the XEO but I had issues with 2 pairs, so I decided to give KEF a chance since they do nearfield very well. I was going to use the KEF LS50, but they just were too big for desk and defeated the purpose of simplifying.

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I’ve run AVRs with HT Bypass/AV Gain for years, until last year when we bought this house. So call it 12 years or so....

If as you mention above, 2-ch isn’t your preference then don’t worry about an Integrated Amp, just buy a solid receiver I’d say buy something like an Anthem 720. I know it’s over your budget but musically it’ll sound better then the Marantz/Denon and Integra models, I’ve owned both. I even have an Onkyo in my bedroom.

The Anthem is a powerful, uses toroidal transformers, sounds good, can power all the channels you require. Then get a good streaming device later and be complete. It will still sound great in 2-ch if the mood strikes.
Anthem MRX-720 does not have toroidal transformer. 2 of the Atmos channels are class D with 60 watts on both 720 and 1120.
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I’️ve run AVRs with HT Bypass/AV Gain for years, until last year when we bought this house. So call it 12 years or so....

If as you mention above, 2-ch isn’️t your preference then don’️t worry about an Integrated Amp, just buy a solid receiver I’️d say buy something like an Anthem 720. I know it’️s over your budget but musically it’️ll sound better then the Marantz/Denon and Integra models, I’️ve owned both. I even have an Onkyo in my bedroom.

The Anthem is a powerful, uses toroidal transformers, sounds good, can power all the channels you require. Then get a good streaming device later and be complete. It will still sound great in 2-ch if the mood strikes.
Anthem MRX-720 does not have toroidal transformer. 2 of the Atmos channels are class D with 60 watts on both 720 and 1120.
So just the 1120 has the toroidal? Their pics are a bit misleading then.
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I've spent time with LSX speakers. Easily 90% of what LS50 Wireless are in sound quality. Get a good app on your desktop PC or phone, stream without using the somewhat inept KEF app.

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I am digging the LSX in the bedroom and I agree with you them being really close to the LS50. The great midrange is there in spades. The KEF app is pretty awful but I just use Roon to feed them.
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Talking about Kef speakers on a Dynaudio forum?, the nerve...

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no quarter: LOL, main system is minus Dynaudio now! I did mention Dynaudio in my post.. lol

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no quarter: LOL, main system is minus Dynaudio now! I did mention Dynaudio in my post.. lol
Ya it gets awfully boring and slow here if all you talk about is how great Dynaudio is, when in fact, there is a whole world of other gear out there. It appears that a few of us have moved on.
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Ya it gets awfully boring and slow here if all you talk about is how great Dynaudio is, when in fact, there is a whole world of other gear out there. It appears that a few of us have moved on.
I still have 10 Dynaudio speakers. Should I seek help?
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I'm right there with you, 12 if you count center channels...
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I'm right there with you, 12 if you count center channels...
I was counting center channel and sub:
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Ya it gets awfully boring and slow here if all you talk about is how great Dynaudio is, when in fact, there is a whole world of other gear out there. It appears that a few of us have moved on.
No intention of moving on, just going to enjoy what I have.... My last piece of the puzzle was just a good Dac, I have a backup system which I could easily live with as well, just don't have time to check anything out right now. Now that could chance once kids are out of the house, but still got a couple more years yet.

RaceTripper/Yonson: Some oldies but good ones! My vary first system was LR120 X 5 for HT.... I had Confidence 3/5 etc.. way too long to list, but pretty easy to go through a ton of Dynaudio's when you work at a store, and they were are number #1 brand... I think I might have had 30-40 different pairs over the years.

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I was counting center channel and sub:
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Nice.

I don't have any Dyn subs, when I move and downsize to monitors only I'll probably pick up a Sub 6 or 2, but who knows when that will be now...
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On another note: Trying to declutter and simply, any recommendations on a good computer/office system for music Looking at the KEF LSX/Dynaudio possibly but want a near field speaker "powered" that will sound good without breaking the bank. Been using some NAD/PSB speakers and a small Int. Amp and some other Dali speakers as well, getting rid of all of that to simply it more...
If you're willing to go used, I found a mint condition pair of Dynaudio BM-6a mkII for a really great price on the used market locally. They sound incredible, but keep in mind they're not an all-in-one system. They need to be fed with a DAC/preamp for D/A conversion and volume control. Well worth it though.
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