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Thanks everyone for the replies. I have a few answers and more questions. First, does anybody know if the new Contour LE models are brighter than the old Contour, more like Focus? I'm curious whether the LE has new voicing or is just a slight refinement/improvement of the previous sound.
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The speakers are on the short wall, approx. 8' apart, 4' out from the front wall, 2.5' from side walls. See attached picture. It was taken earlier in the year with my previous kit. Note it's a wide angle shot so the length of the room is a little exaggerated. The subs are actually at the midpoints of the sidewalls.
@petetherock :
I noticed you compared the C1 to the 1.4LE. I will probably keep the subs with either speaker, so the difference in bass extension isn't a factor. I'm more curious about any differences in bass damping and fullness in the upper bass. I've never heard the C1, but my C2s are a little overdamped in the bass compared to what sounds natural to my ears. This is especially noticeable at low and medium volumes. For HT, I appreciate this since a lot of soundtracks are over-exuberant in the bass. But when listening to something like a well recorded acoustic bass, the bass tuning of my Focus 160s sounds more natural. With the 160s, I feel more of the pluck, the note sounds a little richer in harmonics, and there is more decay. With the C2s, it's like the note has trouble getting out unless you crank the volume. I'm curious whether you've heard anything similar in the comparison of 1.4LE and C1.
@Garman :
I've definitely thought about upgrading my C2s to Mk II, but the cosmetics of the Signature and Platinum versions are a problem. My family/living room is full of natural cherry and my cherry C2s with their grey & silver baffles is a perfect match. I haven't checked into whether the C2 Platinums can be special ordered with the old finishes though.
@callas01 :
Interesting comment about the speed. I haven't heard the C1s, but to me the C2s sound faster than the 160s. The C2s have a little more treble detail and more space in time between the notes which makes them sound faster to my ears. The remaining stock of new Focus 260s is discounted to $2800 now, which is an absolute steal. So I've definitely thought about buying a pair of 260s and sticking with them until I get a chance to hear the new Contour, or maybe waiting until there's a new Confidence. The best thing about the 160s is hardest to explain. I hate the term "musicalilty" but can't think of a better word. They sound musically satisfying with all genres of music, unlike any other speaker I've owned. But sometimes I miss some of the audiophile traits. In particular I'd like a little more clarity. My previous W-B Vertex speakers had an absolutely black background in both time and space with no smear in either dimension and the best transient performance I've heard. I miss that. They weren't neutral enough for me to keep though.
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I was thinking of the XDs since I like the overall sound and balance of the Focus, but I'm looking for more clarity, and maybe a little more speed. Passive crossovers are energy storage devices and phase shifters, and so in theory, even the best of them will impart a little smear compared to active crossovers using linear phase filters. So I thought maybe the XDs would improve upon the passive Focus in the areas I'm interested in. The downside of the XD is that I would have to take an overnight trip just to hear them since the Dynaudio dealers in the area don't have them. And they are surprisingly expensive, especially the 400 XD which is the best fit for my room. And probably hard to sell if they end up not working out as well as I hope in my room.

Also, yes I have heard the Magico S1, first at a show and twice at a dealer, for a total of maybe 4 hours. I wasn't shopping for speakers, we were just using them to compare streaming players. But I loved them and if I wasn't married I would have bought them on the spot. They are the best Magico speaker I've heard. I like them better than the S3 and Q1 and Mini and V2. The S1 has extreme clarity, transparency, and resolution, but also a natural ease. They give up very little to the Q1 in resolution, but the Q1 sounds a lot more clinical. The S1 are also dead neutral, with no coloration or emphasis anywhere in the frequency range that I could hear. The S3 has more bass extension than the S1, but sounds a little bit lean and the soundstage is maybe a little smaller too. The main weakness of the S1 is that they are more limited in dynamics compared to other slim floorstanders in the same price category, e.g. Revel Salon 2 and Dynaudio C2. So if you want a kick drum to punch you in the chest when you're listening to rock, this isn't the way to go. Another caveat is that their transparency will let any flaws or imbalances in the rest of your system shine through. Because of that, they are perfect audition tools.
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I have a few answers and more questions. First, does anybody know if the new Contour LE models are brighter than the old Contour, more like Focus? I'm curious whether the LE has new voicing or is just a slight refinement/improvement of the previous sound.
@OctaDyn_Dude :
The speakers are on the short wall, approx. 8' apart, 4' out from the front wall, 2.5' from side walls. See attached picture. It was taken earlier in the year with my previous kit. Note it's a wide angle shot so the length of the room is a little exaggerated. The subs are actually at the midpoints of the sidewalls.
@petetherock :
I noticed you compared the C1 to the 1.4LE. I will probably keep the subs with either speaker, so the difference in bass extension isn't a factor. I'm more curious about any differences in bass damping and fullness in the upper bass. I've never heard the C1, but my C2s are a little overdamped in the bass compared to what sounds natural to my ears. This is especially noticeable at low and medium volumes. For HT, I appreciate this since a lot of soundtracks are over-exuberant in the bass. But when listening to something like a well recorded acoustic bass, the bass tuning of my Focus 160s sounds more natural. With the 160s, I feel more of the pluck, the note sounds a little richer in harmonics, and there is more decay. With the C2s, it's like the note has trouble getting out unless you crank the volume. I'm curiously whether you've heard anything similar in the comparison of 1.4LE and C1.
@Garman :
I've definitely thought about upgrading my C2s to Mk II, but the cosmetics of the Signature and Platinum versions are a problem. My family/living room is full of natural cherry and my cherry C2s with their grey & silver baffles is a perfect match. I haven't checked into whether the C2 Platinums can be special ordered with the old finishes though.
@callas01 :
Interesting comment about the speed. I haven't heard the C1s, but to me the C2s sound faster than the 160s. The C2s have a little more treble detail and more space in time between the notes which makes them sound faster to my ears. The remaining stock of new Focus 260s is discounted to $2800 now, which is an absolute steal. So I've definitely thought about buying a pair of 260s and sticking with them until I get a chance to hear the new Contour, or maybe waiting until there's a new Confidence. The best thing about the 160s is hardest to explain. I hate the term "musicalilty" but can't think of a better word. They sound musically satisfying with all genres of music, unlike any other speaker I've owned. But sometimes I miss some of the audiophile traits. In particular I'd like a little more clarity. My previous W-B Vertex speakers had an absolutely black background in both time and space with no smear in either dimension and the best transient performance I've heard. I miss that. They weren't neutral enough for me to keep though.
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I was thinking of the XDs since I like the overall sound and balance of the Focus, but I'm looking for more clarity, and maybe a little more speed. Passive crossovers are energy storage devices and phase shifters, and so in theory, even the best of them will impart a little smear compared to active crossovers using linear phase filters. So I thought maybe the XDs would improve upon the passive Focus in the areas I'm interested in. The downside of the XD is that I would have to take an overnight trip just to hear them since the Dynaudio dealers in the area don't have them. And they are surprisingly expensive, especially the 400 XD which is the best fit for my room. And probably hard to sell if they end up not working out as well as I hope in my room.

Also, yes I have heard the Magico S1, first at a show and twice at a dealer, for a total of maybe 4 hours. I wasn't shopping for speakers, we were just using them to compare streaming players. But I loved them and if I wasn't married I would have bought them on the spot. They are the best Magico speaker I've heard. I like them better than the S3 and Q1 and Mini and V2. The S1 has extreme clarity, transparency, and resolution, but also a natural ease. They give up very little to the Q1 in resolution, but the Q1 sounds a lot more clinical. The S1 are also dead neutral, with no coloration or emphasis anywhere in the frequency range that I could hear. The S3 has more bass extension than the S1, but sounds a little bit lean and the soundstage is maybe a little smaller too. The main weakness of the S1 is that they are more limited in dynamics compared to other slim floorstanders in the same price category, e.g. Revel Salon 2 and Dynaudio C2. So if you want a kick drum to punch you in the chest when you're listening to rock, this isn't the way to go. Another caveat is that their transparency will let any flaws or imbalances in the rest of your system shine through. Because of that, they are perfect audition tools.
Great write up,sounds like you really know your gear.I too REALLY liked the focus 160 and I would consider it my "reference" moniter so far,including the c1's...the only reason I moved on from it is just curiosity about what else is out there.I figured I could always come back to it if nothing else I found was an improvement,then they go and discontinue it.By the looks of your room,the xd 600's would work perfectly in there...they do have a similar sound signature to the focus line...really there is NO signature,they just give me the impression that the band/musician is playing LIVE in front of me.I am struggling with a decision right now, if I should move them out of hometheater into my 2 channel room or not,I will probably end up with one of the NEW contour models,but I am not sure if the contour or xd 600 will be for 2 channel The only problem is,you would need power to that left speaker location...if you went with xd's

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My dealer told me...not even the US Dyn guys; have heard the new Contour LOL

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I went to my dealer yeserday,and he said he received an e mail from dyn about the new contours with some specs,and he printed it out...but he couldn't find it,he did mention that even NON Dyn guys that have heard them are raving about them,not sure where that info came from though.

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I went to my dealer yeserday,and he said he received an e mail from dyn about the new contours with some specs,and he printed it out...but he couldn't find it,he did mention that even NON Dyn guys that have heard them are raving about them,not sure where that info came from though.
Well sure; anyone at that show...Dyn or not...heard them (unless they were just static). But I guess the point my dealer was making...when I asked if he'd heard them yet was; no one, who wasn't at that show has.
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Red MC: Your description that you talk about in your post to petetherock is spot on between the older versions of the C2 verses the newer ones, the C2 MKII and Platinums had some refinements to the drivers and cross over so they play better at lower and higher volumes... The 160 is most likely the best monitor out in their line up right now, but I haven't had a chance to compare it to the 1.4 LE which I am sure is equally as good considering it's getting rave reviews right now. If I where some one that didn't want to wait, I would snag up a pair of the 160's, I am tempted too as well, but I might hold off till the newer Contour hits the streets here. If the XD are anything and better I am sure like the little Xeo2 I just bought, I am sure you will love the sound of those! I heard the XD 200/400 last year but they where not in a very good room at Axpona, too small and too many people in it! I heard the new Contour 20 will be some where in-between the C1 and the 1.4 LE, so I might play the waiting game, regardless no matter what flavor you buy, I am sure you will be happy with it!



Intersting info here in regards to some comments of what people heard at the Show, in regards to the new Contour 20's..

"During the launch the Contour 20 standmounter was being driven by the new NAD Masters series and it has to be said that the sound was rather impressive, particularly given the relatively compact nature of the speakers that were playing in a very large space."
http://hifipig.com/dynaudio-launch-c...nd/#more-22659

Stereophile had some thing similar to say..

http://www.listeningpost.co.nz/conto...50702__N.81089 <<<<<<<< I am not a fan of these finishes in this post and according to this site they will just have them in Gloss Rosewood or Bubinga which could look nice.... Heck I think I would rather have a pair of Countour 1.4 LE in Mocca or Bubinga, but that's just going off of looks! Plus I can't find anything in the specs that say what tweeter they are using in the 1.4LE Some say it is the Esotar2 already? First things for me is sound then the looks, I think the new Contour could look much better if they offer some nicer finishes. The white washed looks cheap and the Walnut with the black baffle isn't too bad, but I would rather have Mocca...

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If I where some one that didn't want to wait, I would snag up a pair of the 160's, I am tempted too as well, but I might hold off till the newer Contour hits the streets here.
Do you mind my asking why you're still looking for a reference monitor? I thought between the C2s and the XEO 2s, you'd have "enough of a good thing". And then of course, we can't forget that you've got some 1.7s as well (unless you got rid of those recently).

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My gut tells me that C20 will take Focus 160 and build off it in two ways. 1) Better cabinet and cosmetics. 2) Take the voicing of Focus 160 and add better bass and mids and especially add higher end smoothness and refinement with Esotar2. Think a C1 with better bass than Focus 160 and think Special 25 that's easier to drive and pair with more equipment but also perhaps with not as much forward attack.
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Do you mind my asking why you're still looking for a reference monitor? I thought between the C2s and the XEO 2s, you'd have "enough of a good thing". And then of course, we can't forget that you've got some 1.7s as well (unless you got rid of those recently).
I won't presume to speak for Gar...but I would say "'cuz we're dumb"

I'm looking to do the same, to sit next to my PMC 20-26s. For the record...Sopra No.1, at the top of the list.
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I was always wondering about this. Many, many Naim users suggest Naim sources going with Naim amps, so that the DIN connection can be used for the best result. I'm using ordinary RCA connection from my Rotel DAC. This DAC is in a quite big box and has its own power supply, but no ground wires. Does this combination somehow affect the sound quality?
In my experience the DIN vs RCA have negligible difference. I actually cannot hear any difference using my gear in my room.
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Do you mind my asking why you're still looking for a reference monitor? I thought between the C2s and the XEO 2s, you'd have "enough of a good thing". And then of course, we can't forget that you've got some 1.7s as well (unless you got rid of those recently).
Simple: I want to get rid of 3 (Monitors) I have now and just have one Reference Monitor. I don't have time to keep on switching in and out stuff anymore, if I do this now or within 6 months, I will most likely save money in the long run. I would trade
(or sell) in my mint Contour 1.3 MKII in Brazilian Rosewood and the KEFs I have and go with a pair of Contours or possibly the Raidho XT-1/D1.1s. I would have pulled the trigger on the Raidho's now, but my company is being greedy and lowered our comp plan, after they tell me & us on how much of a stellar year we are having! "Bastards"

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Intersting info here in regards to some comments of what people heard at the Show, in regards to the new Contour 20's..
Via Google Translate, from a Swedish magazine that recently gave a favorable review of 1.4LE:

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Plus I can't find anything in the specs that say what tweeter they are using in the 1.4LE Some say it is the Esotar2 already?
I've seen this rumour pop up here and there, but it is simply not true. The 1.4 LE uses exactly the same D-280 variant as the original 1.4. Anyone with a spare parts price list on hand can verify this.

EDIT: Come to think of it, they do have different spare part numbers, due to the different color face plate. But it is the same driver.
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http://www.audioxpress.com/article/d...-high-end-2016

"...without a doubt, one of the best sounding systems we’ve heard in Munich..."

Who am i to argue ;-)
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"...without a doubt, one of the best sounding systems we’ve heard in Munich..."

Who am i to argue ;-)
Great review...come on October
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"...without a doubt, one of the best sounding systems we’ve heard in Munich..."

Who am i to argue ;-)
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I've seen this rumour pop up here and there, but it is simply not true. The 1.4 LE uses exactly the same D-280 variant as the original 1.4. Anyone with a spare parts price list on hand can verify this.
Thanks for the clarification, I have even seen it in some audio articles, but mostly in forums though, go figure! Glad to hear it coming directly from the source! I know what I may be waiting for then! Now is there going to be a Contour 40, sorry if I missed this some where in the Thread I heard it mentioned, and if so will it be out the same time as the rest of the new Contours?

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Thanks all for the suggestions!

@GTaudiophile - budget limit is 10k. My constrain is really space (esp for the actual speakers). I do have rack space and as long as I am not putting monoblocks o the floor the wife won't really complain. For NAIM I will focus o SN2, but a bit hesitation on the proprietary cable system. Will check out Hegal and NAD.

@petetherock @Garman - my local Dynaudio dealer stocks MF and it is the only amp I was able to demo with the X34. I liked what I heard with the M6si and the 3k price tag also seems to offer a lot of value. It has all the inputs and include HT bypass. My dealer also paired it with a conture S1.4LE and the C2P and the M6si seems to handle them pretty well. I do find the plastic and colorfully labeled remote control detracts from the package.

@callas01 - thanks for the list! I am debating whether it make sense to go to the 10k level for a pair of 3k speakers. On one hand it make more sense to stay with the 3-5k choices. On the other hand my heart have a sof spot for tubes and both the octaves and vsi75 sounded really refined yet dynamic when I demo at the dealers. I am leaning now to start lower and reserve some budget for future upgrades, and getting an NDX or other file transport like the aurrender n10 or auralic Aries and a new DAC.

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My previous W-B Vertex speakers had an absolutely black background in both time and space with no smear in either dimension and the best transient performance I've heard. I miss that. They weren't neutral enough for me to keep though.
Could you elaborate a little on the neutrality issue with the WB? Anything missing or sticking out on them?
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Thanks all for the suggestions!

@GTaudiophile - budget limit is 10k. My constrain is really space (esp for the actual speakers). I do have rack space and as long as I am not putting monoblocks o the floor the wife won't really complain. For NAIM I will focus o SN2, but a bit hesitation on the proprietary cable system. Will check out Hegal and NAD.

@petetherock @Garman - my local Dynaudio dealer stocks MF and it is the only amp I was able to demo with the X34. I liked what I heard with the M6si and the 3k price tag also seems to offer a lot of value. It has all the inputs and include HT bypass. My dealer also paired it with a conture S1.4LE and the C2P and the M6si seems to handle them pretty well. I do find the plastic and colorfully labeled remote control detracts from the package.

@callas01 - thanks for the list! I am debating whether it make sense to go to the 10k level for a pair of 3k speakers. On one hand it make more sense to stay with the 3-5k choices. On the other hand my heart have a sof spot for tubes and both the octaves and vsi75 sounded really refined yet dynamic when I demo at the dealers. I am leaning now to start lower and reserve some budget for future upgrades, and getting an NDX or other file transport like the aurrender n10 or auralic Aries and a new DAC.

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If I had $10K to play with....hmmm...I think that the speaker should take the #1 spot in the food chain if you will. Meaning, the more you invest in your speakers, the better sound you'll achieve than at any other point in the chain. That's just me.

That said, I'd look into these options...options that could be purchased now.

1. I'd seriously consider that used $3K Hegel H300 (430wpc into 4 Ohms) and then spend ca. $7K on a pair of Dynaudio Focus 380s.
2. NAIM SuperNait2 ($5,500) plus Dynaudio Excite X44 ($5,500).
3. NAIM SuperNait2 ($5,500) plus Dynaudio Focus 260 ($2800) plus a cracking DAC like the Schiit Yiggy for $2200 or Chord Hugo.

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If I had $10K to play with....hmmm...I think that the speaker should take the #1 spot in the food chain if you will. Meaning, the more you invest in your speakers, the better sound you'll achieve than at any other point in the chain. That's just me.

That said, I'd look into these options...options that could be purchased now.

1. I'd seriously consider that used $3K Hegel H300 (430wpc into 4 Ohms) and then spend ca. $7K on a pair of Dynaudio Focus 380s.
2. NAIM SuperNait2 ($5,500) plus Dynaudio Excite X44 ($5,500).
3. NAIM SuperNait2 ($5,500) plus Dynaudio Focus 260 ($2800) plus a cracking DAC like the Schiit Yiggy for $2200 or Chord Hugo.
I second the Hegel brand, their Int. Amps are very nice and do a great job with Dynaudio. I am using one of their dacs HD12 and I am very impressed with it so far. The MF KW-500 Int. I have does 700wpc into a 4ohm load, best product I have ever purchased to date, got it for $2400, slightly used considering it is a 7K Int. Amp and built like a tank and the Sonics to boot.. I use to have it years ago, sold it to a Dr. friend of mine who barely used it, bought it back from him after trying dozens of other Amps/pre amps and Int. when you find some thing that matches up well, keep it! I also use a Rogue Tube Pre/Amp along with a rebuilt Amp which is pretty good, the A5 and 3.5 series is also very good match with the Dyns as well and now several on Audiogon.

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"...without a doubt, one of the best sounding systems we’ve heard in Munich..."

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Otto: looking at the Contour History through out the years pictures, I have owned every Contour on the list with the exceptions of 2 from 1986 till now..... The 1.4s and the Contour 2.1.. Last pair Contours I bought new was S5.4 before I went to the C4s then down to the C2s because of room constraints. I did pick up a pair of Contour 1.3MKII a year ago, they where a pair we installed "inside" a wall during a home theater upgrade we did for a guy. They were made from Brazilian Rosewood a tad darker, needless to say the owner sold his 1.4 Million dollar house and the previous owners went bankrupt and a friend was at the Estate Sale and sure enough, they where still behind the wall, the previous owners thought they were inwalls and never looked. Let's just say I got a mint pair at a pretty good rate..... Their is a lot more to this story of course!
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Thanks all for the suggestions!

@GTaudiophile - budget limit is 10k. My constrain is really space (esp for the actual speakers). I do have rack space and as long as I am not putting monoblocks o the floor the wife won't really complain. For NAIM I will focus o SN2, but a bit hesitation on the proprietary cable system. Will check out Hegal and NAD.

@petetherock @Garman - my local Dynaudio dealer stocks MF and it is the only amp I was able to demo with the X34. I liked what I heard with the M6si and the 3k price tag also seems to offer a lot of value. It has all the inputs and include HT bypass. My dealer also paired it with a conture S1.4LE and the C2P and the M6si seems to handle them pretty well. I do find the plastic and colorfully labeled remote control detracts from the package.

@callas01 - thanks for the list! I am debating whether it make sense to go to the 10k level for a pair of 3k speakers. On one hand it make more sense to stay with the 3-5k choices. On the other hand my heart have a sof spot for tubes and both the octaves and vsi75 sounded really refined yet dynamic when I demo at the dealers. I am leaning now to start lower and reserve some budget for future upgrades, and getting an NDX or other file transport like the aurrender n10 or auralic Aries and a new DAC.

Cheers
I use a Naim Uniti2 to power my Focus 260s and my dealer has told me he's powered up to Contour 5.4s with it and was a great combo. Lots of power and drive in the U2. The U2 can stream music over UPnP, or network connection, plus from places like Spotify and Tidal, plus internet radio stations and a built-in CD player. Plus it's an Integrated amp, to me the simplicity of the whole unit and controlling it with my iPhone app takes it over the top!!

There's lots of great units out there, finding what's best for you is always fun, I love auditioning gear!!

IMO most of the amps in the $3k-5k price range will not only power the X34s but allow you to climb up the ladder of speakers as well.
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Guys i might just hold off to the 3.4 LEs and wait for the Contour 30, my dealer will discuss with the rep on Monday and will find out at what step the 3.4LEs are from being shipped from Denmark, they told me you know what even if they are in transit we'll try to do something, I said if you can't it's not the end of the world but just seeing the newer pics from the Show and the first impressions, I think it would be great news for me if I could just change my order to the Contour 30 as retail is more-less the same as the 3.4 LE.

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Thanks for the clarification, I have even seen it in some audio articles, but mostly in forums though, go figure! Glad to hear it coming directly from the source! I know what I may be waiting for then! Now is there going to be a Contour 40, sorry if I missed this some where in the Thread I heard it mentioned, and if so will it be out the same time as the rest of the new Contours?
There are no current plans for a model between 30 and 60. In october we will introduce the three models shown, and later in the year the center channel. For now, that is the Contour lineup.

There is a lot of speculation here about a 40 year anniversary model, of which I have no comments.
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Otto: looking at the Contour History through out the years pictures, I have owned every Contour on the list with the exceptions of 2 from 1986 till now.....
You're making me jealous. I'll go listen to the Consequence for a bit, just to make me feel better
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If I had 10k I would still wait for the new Contour, and also upgrade my amp, to something from MF that has 200w and up..
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When I compared the LE, Contour 1.4 and C1s, I wasn't interested in SPL / massive bass output, so I didn't pay attention to that. Refinement was what I am after, and the C1P had the right sound.
YMMV. Since you have a C2, it gives a different sound from a bookshelf speaker, and what you want may be different. I had a 804D, but whilst it had more bass, it could not integrate well into my small room, and the bass/mid/treble integration was more discordant.

Now the C1P gives tighter sound, less SPL perhaps / thump, but it has a sweeter treble, and closer to the sound I want. And initially I first that my Marantz PM 11 will not be able to drive the 4ohm 85 DB design well, but it had plenty of headroom, and mind you, I usually listen at < 60db anyways. So it's about vocals, guitars and less about thump, rock and irritating my neighbours

Plus I wanted a HT system that I can build on, and the C Platinum centre is my gold standard for a centre, and since it was basically two C1ps together, I had HT integration worked out too.
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When I compared the LE, Contour 1.4 and C1s, I wasn't interested in SPL / massive bass output, so I didn't pay attention to that. Refinement was what I am after, and the C1P had the right sound.
YMMV. Since you have a C2, it gives a different sound from a bookshelf speaker, and what you want may be different. I had a 804D, but whilst it had more bass, it could not integrate well into my small room, and the bass/mid/treble integration was more discordant.

Now the C1P gives tighter sound, less SPL perhaps / thump, but it has a sweeter treble, and closer to the sound I want. And initially I first that my Marantz PM 11 will not be able to drive the 4ohm 85 DB design well, but it had plenty of headroom, and mind you, I usually listen at < 60db anyways. So it's about vocals, guitars and less about thump, rock and irritating my neighbours

Plus I wanted a HT system that I can build on, and the C Platinum centre is my gold standard for a centre, and since it was basically two C1ps together, I had HT integration worked out too.
Wow Pete,that is very low volume,i just got my i pad out to see how loud that is...and it actually says on there that 60 db's is an average normal conversation,so i set the volume to 60 db's,i hope you crank it up from time to time...i just had the c1 p's at home for a week,also owned the mk 11's for about 2 years,to me they really come alive around 70-80 db's.Awesome speaker,in any event...i wonder if the used market will be flooded with c1's with the impending release of the new contour?If it does,i highly recommend grabbing a pair to anyone looking for an upgrade,just make sure you have enough amp to drive them.There is a guy on the Naim forum talking about how he thought the c1 room was the best sounding at the recent Chicago show,the thing is,he listed the equipment driving them,and it added up to about 80 grand,another reason i traded mine on the xd 600's...i felt that they needed much better amplification than i was using at the time...anyway,cheers mate.
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