Originally Posted by mtrot
Actually, quite a few, as were seen at AXPONA recently. There are three pages of AVS blogs on AXPONA, but check out in particular the $295,000 Von Schweikert speakers near the bottom of this page. The big Wilson rooms were incredible as well. Now, I'm not talking measurements. I'm talking about the realistic recreation of an actual acoustic event. BTW, I thought and have written here on AVS that the new Revel F228Be sounded incredible at AXPONA, so I am not against Revel at all, but I have to be realistic.
For what it's worth I'd take the F228bes over the big Wilsons every day of the week (assuming I couldn't immediately sell the big Wilsons, buy the Revels, and keep the difference). Maybe the room was just set up poorly when I demoed them, but overall I thought the smallest Wilsons (the Sabrinas) sounded the best of all of them, but I'd still probably opt for the F228bes.
Now the Von Schweikerts, Legacy Valor, or big MBLs, that's another story, but I'd really need a room much larger than any I have to truly appreciate them.
For me it's impossible to completely eliminate the price of a product from my mind when I'm listening to it, and that probably effects my reactions to a degree. I hold ultra-expensive speakers to a higher standard than more affordable ones. Even so, I could count on one hand the number of speakers at any price point at AXPONA that I thought sounded better than the Revels, and for $10,000 (or $4,000 for the bookshelves) I'm not sure anything came close (I did really love the Salk Song3As, the Aurum Cantus Towers, the Raidho XT-1s, and some others, but none of them were demoed at anywhere near the same SPL levels as the Revels when I visited the Revel room, and I didn't get a chance to hear the same variety of content, so I'm not sure if they'd hold their composure playing Rammstein at reference levels then turn on a dime and expose all of the detail in an orchestral recording, and while the XT-1s threw much bigger sound and more bass than they should've for their size, they're twice the price of the M126bes and they don't dig as deep).
Originally Posted by steven59
Those aren't Revel tweeters! Look at them closely!
I believe they're the Revel tweeters, the color looks right for beryllium, but it looks like the previous owner removed the two wires that cross in front of the tweeter from the factory. I'm not sure if those are there for an acoustic reason or just to keep people from poking it and damaging it though.
Originally Posted by steven59
I own a pair of Salon2's and freely admit i've heard other less expensive speakers sound better with some material, it's also not as easy getting large speakers to image as good as stand mounts. I had a pair of VA beethovens circa 2003 that I would put up against anything out there when reproducing small ensemble jazz, but switch over to rock and they couldn't cut it. The revel salon1 and salon2 both measure nearly flat in room but side by side they clearly sound different and you are on a revel forum so what do you expect? Go to the B&W forum and ask them about their flagship model.
That's a good point regarding imaging and soundstage, and it's something I've become a bit critical about with my home 2-channel system since listening to some of the rooms at the show. I have great horizontal soundstage and imaging, OK vertical, but I'm just not getting the depth of sound stage that I heard in some of the demo rooms. I'm not sure if my room is too small for my Intermezzos, if I'd get better sound stage pulling them more from the wall (even if that might put me a bit too close to them) or if I'd get a deeper sound stage with some room treatments. I may have to experiment with moving them more forward and then re-running my Dirac calibration to see if that helps. They're heavy as frack though, and moving them is a PITA.
Plus, since hearing those M126bes I'm really tempted, though then I'd have to find something to do with the Intermezzos, I suppose I could put them in place of my Interlude IL40s as my front HT mains, but then I'd have to find a place for the Interludes, maybe rear surrounds? Plus I set up all of my gear for 2-channel since the Intermezzos have built-in subs, I'd have to get a new preamp with bass management and get a subwoofer if I went with the M126bes, so an affordable speaker upgrade suddenly becomes a much pricier full-system re-jigger.