Originally Posted by russ_777
I certainly don't mean to sound defensive if I did. Just explaining my thinking on why, in my particular case, I no longer have any desire to "keep moving up the speaker ladder." It's to the point where better is the enemy of good enough with me. Improvements I could make elsewhere in my system are less marginal to varying degrees so that is likely where I'll focus my upgrade attention.
I agree with you there's a point where I would no longer be willing to pay to upgrade, unless I become a billionaire
If they increase performance by 1% and double the price, I'll stick with the Salon2.
I guess I was more just interested in hearing others thoughts on how they could improve the Salon2(at any cost), even if it pushes it out of my reasonable price range.
The science based approach is what really attracts me to Harman, and I feel like there's always ways to use science to improve any speaker.
I just started reading Audio Science Review forums a lot lately. Not sure what their reputation is here
. They seem to be really big on speakers like D&D 8C, and most agree they measure better than the Salon2s. I think I saw Floyd mention they have problems with floor bounce, though. That, and their max output is like 108db, which is much less than the Salon2, and which I already know would probably be a letdown for me in my great room at 4m mlp and coming from my current setup, no how much better they sound at the same volume. They also don't seem to have anywhere near the sophisticated cabinetry that the Salon2 has. They (imo) compromise sound quality in order maintain a small size(which I really don't care about). Still the fact that they manage to best the Salon2 in certain ways(according to ARS), at half the price, and with a smaller and worse cabinet, has me wondering how much better the Salon2 could be if it fully embraced the software and dsp based science that the D&D 8C uses.
Just interested in how much better it can get I guess. Going active, fully embracing software, and offloading bass to modules that can be independently placed seem like good ideas to me, but I'm curious what others think.
I like the fact that you mention live music in your last post. The fact that live, unamplified music still sounds so much better than the best we have is good evidence that we still have a long ways to go. It may be physically impossible to get there with box based loudspeakers(I definitely think it's impossible with stereo), but who knows what the future will hold for audio.