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I use 685 S2 as surrounds for HTM71 S2 + 705 S2 fronts and hear no audible mismatch. I often play surround SACD, DVD-Audio and surround DSD/FLAC music too with no issues. I auditioned the 707 S2 and found it too bright so I settled with my old 685 S2.
Yea. 706S2 surrounds would be way better than 707S2. The 706S2 has the same exact tone as your 705S2 (same drivers) just without the decoupled tweeter and a bit worse staging (which is not that relevant for surrounds). But your right that the 685S2 are probably fine also.

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Hi i'm thinking about buying the B&W 704s2 i currently own a pair of cm9s2 speakers, i use a svs sb2000 with my NAD C388 amplifier.
If i went for the smaller 704's would i notice a difference in sound? my room is about 19 square metres
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Help i just purchased a pair of the cm5 s2. One of the doesn't Tweeter grille has a small dent. How do I fix that?

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Hi i'm thinking about buying the B&W 704s2 i currently own a pair of cm9s2 speakers, i use a svs sb2000 with my NAD C388 amplifier.
If i went for the smaller 704's would i notice a difference in sound? my room is about 19 square metres
Any chance you'd wait until you can audition the new offerings from that "other" British-heritage brand?

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Hi i'm thinking about buying the B&W 704s2 i currently own a pair of cm9s2 speakers, i use a svs sb2000 with my NAD C388 amplifier.
If i went for the smaller 704's would i notice a difference in sound? my room is about 19 square metres
The new 700 series offers a lot of really nice improvements especially with the new Continuum drivers that replace the old Kevlar drivers. Not sure how loud you typically listen in that medium/large room but the biggest issue might be output.

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Hi i'm thinking about buying the B&W 704s2 i currently own a pair of cm9s2 speakers, i use a svs sb2000 with my NAD C388 amplifier.
If i went for the smaller 704's would i notice a difference in sound? my room is about 19 square metres
Any chance you'd wait until you can audition the new offerings from that "other" British-heritage brand? [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]
do really think that they will sound much better ?
I know when i auditioned the cm8s and the r500s to my ears the cm8s sounded a bit nicer and the new 700s have had lots technology from the 800 series to push sound quality much further and possibly a more exciting sound?
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Hi i'm thinking about buying the B&W 704s2 i currently own a pair of cm9s2 speakers, i use a svs sb2000 with my NAD C388 amplifier.
If i went for the smaller 704's would i notice a difference in sound? my room is about 19 square metres
The new 700 series offers a lot of really nice improvements especially with the new Continuum drivers that replace the old Kevlar drivers. Not sure how loud you typically listen in that medium/large room but the biggest issue might be output.
my amp is rated at 150wpc and 704s recommend aplication is 30w to 150w so my amp should be able make these speakers play perfectly to there maximum potential and i'm pretty sure they would have plenty of volume at that level of application plus i have a svs sb2000 subwoofer so bass is not going to be an issue
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my amp is rated at 150wpc and 704s recommend aplication is 30w to 150w so my amp should be able make these speakers play perfectly to there maximum potential and i'm pretty sure they would have plenty of volume at that level of application plus i have a svs sb2000 subwoofer so bass is not going to be an issue
So especially since you have a sub, I'd go with 705s2 over 704s2. They're the same price. The 704s2 are all 5" drivers and the 705s2 is 6" driver. The 705s2 sound a bit warmer I think and still play nice to around 50hz where your sub can pick up the rest. The 704s2 will be a little brighter. The decoupled tweeter in the 705s2 will be a little nicer than the 704. The 704, 707 and centers are my least favorite of the 700 series due to the smaller-than-6-inch drivers.

I think I'd even prefer 706s2 over 704s2, but if you're in 704s2 price range 705 > 706.

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I need help. I have cm5 s2 5.1 system htm71 center right now. I want some b&w ceiling speakers. What model b&w in celing speakers should i get? Thanks.

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I need help. I have cm5 s2 5.1 system htm71 center right now. I want some b&w ceiling speakers. What model b&w in celing speakers should i get? Thanks.

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Are these ceiling speakers going to be for Atmos? if so then B&W CCM682.
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Are these ceiling speakers going to be for Atmos? if so then B&W CCM682.
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Thats some crazy expensive ceiling speakers. Anythjng else cheaper?
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Are these ceiling speakers going to be for Atmos? if so then B&W CCM682.
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You can always do the B&W CCM683 which is a 6” speaker where as the CCM682 is a 8” speaker. What is your budget?
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You can always do the B&W CCM683 which is a 6” speaker where as the CCM682 is a 8” speaker. What is your budget?
The CCM 682 and CCM 683 both have 8" speakers. The CCM 662 and CCM 663 have the 6" speakers. The 6" models are about $100 less than the corresponding 8" models. You will see in my signature that I have the CCM 663 ATMOS speakers to go with my 600 series main speakers and they work fine. I think the 6" models would still be good with CM or 700 series speakers if the 8" models are too expensive.

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The CCM 682 and CCM 683 both have 8" speakers. The CCM 662 and CCM 663 have the 6" speakers. The 6" models are about $100 less than the corresponding 8" models. You will see in my signature that I have the CCM 663 ATMOS speakers to go with my 600 series main speakers and they work fine. I think the 6" models would still be good with CM or 700 series speakers if the 8" models are too expensive.
there you go, that is what I was trying to say. I am actually thinking about selling my 4 CCm682's and buying 4 CCm7.3 to use for my Atmos speakers.
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I finally got my new toys! The HTM72 was an open box and 100 bucks cheaper than the htm6. These sound sooo much better than the crappy Samsung HTIB speakers I've been using.
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I finally got my new toys! The HTM72 was an open box and 100 bucks cheaper than the htm6. These sound sooo much better than the crappy Samsung HTIB speakers I've been using.
I'm not sure if the HTM72-S2 is any better than HTM61-S2 or HTM61-S3. I saw a few open box HTM72-S2 at Best Buy and it says something about that model (2-way with 5" drivers) as opposed to the 3-way with 6.5" driver variants.
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Wow good job.
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You know most people want 3 way for the center. Why not spend more for the htm61?
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Can anyone actual here the different between the sound in any rear or side speakers ?

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I'm very seriously considering buying a pair of 705 S2 bookshelves, HTM71 S2 center, and Marantz SR6012 receiver. This is for a 5.1 "great room" that's probably 75% cable TV, 10% music, and 5% movies.



First question is, anything wrong with this picture?


Second question, and I know this is a loaded question to be asking in a B&W forum, but has anyone auditioned the Monitor Audio Gold 100 bookshelf speakers? These were recommended to me by an audio consultant (who sells them, but does not sell B&W) and I have no way of auditioning them in the same environment as the 705 S2's. I'd really be interested in any feedback regarding 705 S2 versus Gold 100's specifically, or these two brands generally. FWIW, the main type of music we'll be listening to is classic rock (Dead, Steely Dan, Allman Bros., that ilk).


Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!
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I'm very seriously considering buying a pair of 705 S2 bookshelves, HTM71 S2 center, and Marantz SR6012 receiver. This is for a 5.1 "great room" that's probably 75% cable TV, 10% music, and 5% movies.



First question is, anything wrong with this picture?


Second question, and I know this is a loaded question to be asking in a B&W forum, but has anyone auditioned the Monitor Audio Gold 100 bookshelf speakers? These were recommended to me by an audio consultant (who sells them, but does not sell B&W) and I have no way of auditioning them in the same environment as the 705 S2's. I'd really be interested in any feedback regarding 705 S2 versus Gold 100's specifically, or these two brands generally. FWIW, the main type of music we'll be listening to is classic rock (Dead, Steely Dan, Allman Bros., that ilk).


Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!
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I'm not sure if the HTM72-S2 is any better than HTM61-S2 or HTM61-S3. I saw a few open box HTM72-S2 at Best Buy and it says something about that model (2-way with 5" drivers) as opposed to the 3-way with 6.5" driver variants.
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You know most people want 3 way for the center. Why not spend more for the htm61?
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They didnt have anymore htm61s. The new htm6 is also only a 2 way.
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I tested a few movies today and the center channel sounded good to me. Has anybody here replaced a htm72 with an htm71?
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They didnt have anymore htm61s. The new htm6 is also only a 2 way.
I don't like the HTM6 better than the HTM72. I'm not sure I like the HTM71 much better than the HTM72 either but maybe a little. At least the HTM72 has 6.5" drivers, but then the midrange is only a 4". I like centers that have at least 6" mid range drivers. The HTM1D3 unfortunately is about the only one with big drivers but it's way more expensive. I also don't like the old kevlar drivers so I think the HTM72 is better than the HTM61 or 62.

I might like a center made up of two 706s2 pushed together with tweeter in middle. At least that provides 2 6.5" continuum drivers.

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At least the HTM72 has 6.5" drivers, but then the midrange is only a 4".
HTM71 is the one with 6.5" drivers and 4" mids (3-way WMTW). HTM72 is the one with 5" drivers (2 way MTM).
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Its best for you to match everything in the same series. You don't want to great any sound that is out of place
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I don't like the HTM6 better than the HTM72. I'm not sure I like the HTM71 much better than the HTM72 either but maybe a little. At least the HTM72 has 6.5" drivers, but then the midrange is only a 4". I like centers that have at least 6" mid range drivers. The HTM1D3 unfortunately is about the only one with big drivers but it's way more expensive. I also don't like the old kevlar drivers so I think the HTM72 is better than the HTM61 or 62.

I might like a center made up of two 706s2 pushed together with tweeter in middle. At least that provides 2 6.5" continuum drivers.
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Guys,

I m renovating my room & now want to put my S686 s2 surround speakers on stands now instead of wall mounting. I m going for an Atmos setup & saw the dolby diagram that says the surrounds should be ear level for 5.1.2 setups.

The stands i m looking at are the B&W Stav 24 s2 stands. These- https://www.audiot.co.uk/products/b-...ands-9766.aspx

They are 24" inches in height without the spikes. My ear level when in the MLP is approx 30 inches. The s686 s2 drivers in the cabinet are much high placed in the cabinet cause of the flow port below it.

So you guys thing i can get away with this stand for surrounds?


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Guys,

I m renovating my room & now want to put my S686 s2 surround speakers on stands now instead of wall mounting. I m going for an Atmos setup & saw the dolby diagram that says the surrounds should be ear level for 5.1.2 setups.

The stands i m looking at are the B&W Stav 24 s2 stands. These- https://www.audiot.co.uk/products/b-...ands-9766.aspx

They are 24" inches in height without the spikes. My ear level when in the MLP is approx 30 inches. The s686 s2 drivers in the cabinet are much high placed in the cabinet cause of the flow port below it.

So you guys thing i can get away with this stand for surrounds?


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Whats the height of your S686 S2? Add that on top of the height of the 24 inches. Thats what I did for my B&W CM6 S2's and the matching speaker stands. It was just short of the height for my tweeter to be at or just above ear level I needed so I purchased two Auralex Subdude II platforms and put my stands on them to give it 1.75 inches of height extra and it works perfect and isolates the stand as well. I'm sure maybe you can find something cheaper if you dont have the right height you need for your surrounds. I prefer to use the stuff designed for audio applications thats all. Personal preference thats all. :-)

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Whats the height of your S686 S2? Add that on top of the height of the 24 inches. Thats what I did for my B&W CM6 S2's and the matching speaker stands. It was just short of the height for my tweeter to be at or just above ear level I needed so I purchased two Auralex Subdude II platforms and put my stands on them to give it 1.75 inches of height extra and it works perfect and isolates the stand as well. I'm sure maybe you can find something cheaper if you dont have the right height you need for your surrounds. I prefer to use the stuff designed for audio applications thats all. Personal preference thats all. :-)

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The height of the S686 s2 is 12.4 inches. So with the height of the stand combined it should be around 36.4 inches, that's above the ear level of my listening area. What is the height of your sCM6 s2 with their stands? are you using them for surrounds?


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