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Hi. I currently run a 3.0 setup with 804 D3's and HTM2 D3. I'm looking to upgrade into a 7.1. Does anyone have experience with M-1 compared to AM-1 as surround speaker?
I know proper bookshelf speakers would be better, but WAF demands smaller surrounds wall mounted near ceiling

Any advice would be appreciated.

Room is 244 x 516 x 679 (cm) or 8 x 16.9 x 11.3 (feet) and tv is setup on the long wall.

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Hi. I currently run a 3.0 setup with 804 D3's and HTM2 D3. I'm looking to upgrade into a 7.1. Does anyone have experience with M-1 compared to AM-1 as surround speaker?
I know proper bookshelf speakers would be better, but WAF demands smaller surrounds wall mounted near ceiling

Any advice would be appreciated.

Room is 244 x 516 x 679 (cm) or 8 x 16.9 x 11.3 (feet) and tv is setup on the long wall.

Thanks
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Can you do in-wall or on-wall instead mounted closer to ear height?
If in-wall, that'll get you the best performance.
If on-wall, then check out some of the older B&W on-wall speakers. I found some B&W FPM speakers on eBay and they're working great as surrounds in my case (I also own M-1 speakers and the larger FPMs are better quality).
I've never heard the AM-1s though.

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My personal opinion is that the CM1 S2 is more than up to the task of functioning as a surround speaker.
Thanks for the vote. +1 for the CM1.
Any chance there is something to gain with the CM5 S2 ? Figuring I'll be living with this set up for a long while so now's my chance.
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Hi all,
I am looking at getting an in-wall Center, and was considering the CWM 8.3D or the CWM 7.3. My LR are 805D3. I am pretty much 50/50 music and video.

I’m wondering two things.
1. Is there any word about the 700 series tech becoming in wall (continuum et al)
2. How big a compromise is it to go with the CWM7.3? I know it doesn’t have the diamond tweeters, but considering the $ difference wondering how much I’m giving up going to a lower model.

I have a fairly small condo, where I’m simply projecting on a wall, so it’s not a dedicated home theatre or anything like that. I’d be upgrading from a small, old axiom Center so I’m sure anything will be a big move up, but I don’t want to completely sacrifice quality either. Your thoughts are appreciated. If a newer 700 series in wall is around the corner, I have no problem waiting for it.

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Guys, I need some answers to a couple of questions....

Right now, I have a 7.2 B&W CM S2 system. I would like to explore adding height channels for atmos. Are there in ceiling speakers that are a great tonal match to the CM S2 series? If not, how viable an option would it be to source used bookshelves from the series and find suitable ceiling brackets to mount them as height channels?

Also, if I make the jump to the 700 series, are there suitable in ceiling options for that series, and for those of you who have lived with them a while, are the new comtinuum speakers and carbon dome tweeters a dramatic upgrade?
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Hello people

I currently own B&W CM10s with matching CM 2 Center driven by Denon AVR4300H. I have been looking for matching surrounds (CM1s or CM5s) but not able to find them. I came across a pair of Martin Logan motion 15 speakers being sold by someone locally. Do you think I can buy them and use as surrounds? They come with B&W speaker stands and I remember the seller mentioning throwing in Audioquest 4 speaker cables as well. If it won't match the CM10s, do you still think they are good speakers that I can buy and keep them in my bedroom? He is asking for $400.
BTW in case I set up the motion 15 speakers in my bedroom, will Marantz 7008 be a good choice to drive them?
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Hello people

I currently own B&W CM10s with matching CM 2 Center driven by Denon AVR4300H. I have been looking for matching surrounds (CM1s or CM5s) but not able to find them. I came across a pair of Martin Logan motion 15 speakers being sold by someone locally. Do you think I can buy them and use as surrounds? They come with B&W speaker stands and I remember the seller mentioning throwing in Audioquest 4 speaker cables as well. If it won't match the CM10s, do you still think they are good speakers that I can buy and keep them in my bedroom? He is asking for $400.
BTW in case I set up the motion 15 speakers in my bedroom, will Marantz 7008 be a good choice to drive them?
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There are a couple sets of CM5's on eBay at the moment. And there are plenty of CM1 S2's also.
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Guys needs some Help
I am wall mounting my M-1 speakers & i got the wall mount to the wall easily. I am struggling to get the speaker wire in the terminals as the screws on the speaker terminals is super hard to unscrew as it just makes the screw driver slip. Don't want to brake anything like the terminals as will have to replace the whole wall mount then :-(
Any tips on how to get that screw unscrewed in the speaker terminals? anyone who have their M-1s wall mounted can help me?
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Guys needs some Help
I am wall mounting my M-1 speakers & i got the wall mount to the wall easily. I am struggling to get the speaker wire in the terminals as the screws on the speaker terminals is super hard to unscrew as it just makes the screw driver slip. Don't want to brake anything like the terminals as will have to replace the whole wall mount then :-(
Any tips on how to get that screw unscrewed in the speaker terminals? anyone who have their M-1s wall mounted can help me?
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I'm going to be listing my B&W's up for sale , but, I'm trying to figure out a good listing price . I don't want to over price nor do I want to under price them .

My speakers are from the 2006 era and are

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SCM's which are considered 805's but squish with wall mounting brackets
All of these are cherry rosewood
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Same here, actually! I'm selling my like-new B&W 702 S2's, but I'm not entirely sure what a fair price would be.

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I am looking at getting an in-wall Center, and was considering the CWM 8.3D or the CWM 7.3. My LR are 805D3. I am pretty much 50/50 music and video.

I’m wondering two things.
1. Is there any word about the 700 series tech becoming in wall (continuum et al)
2. How big a compromise is it to go with the CWM7.3? I know it doesn’t have the diamond tweeters, but considering the $ difference wondering how much I’m giving up going to a lower model.

I have a fairly small condo, where I’m simply projecting on a wall, so it’s not a dedicated home theatre or anything like that. I’d be upgrading from a small, old axiom Center so I’m sure anything will be a big move up, but I don’t want to completely sacrifice quality either. Your thoughts are appreciated. If a newer 700 series in wall is around the corner, I have no problem waiting for it.

Thanks in advance!



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Hey folks!

I have 704s2 mains, HTM71s2 center, CM6s2 surrounds. This is all powered by an Anthem MRX520 receiver. This is what I'd call a very, very nice setup, but I'd like to take it to the next level, and I'm trying to decide what that move should be. I'm considering upgrading my mains to the 703s2 (maybe 702s2 if I can find a deal on a used pair), or alternatively adding a solid amp to pair with the 704s2.

Specifically I'm looking for more effortless dynamics - in my mind upgrading to the larger drivers is the no-brainer solution, but is my power source going to be just as much of a constraint as the relatively small drivers in the 704s2? Along those lines - would the 704s2 be capable of better dynamics if driven by a more capable amp? I did try out one of the Monolith amps by Monoprice, but honestly it didn't add much to my ears so I sent it back.

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Hey folks!

I have 704s2 mains, HTM71s2 center, CM6s2 surrounds. This is all powered by an Anthem MRX520 receiver. This is what I'd call a very, very nice setup, but I'd like to take it to the next level, and I'm trying to decide what that move should be. I'm considering upgrading my mains to the 703s2 (maybe 702s2 if I can find a deal on a used pair), or alternatively adding a solid amp to pair with the 704s2.

Specifically I'm looking for more effortless dynamics - in my mind upgrading to the larger drivers is the no-brainer solution, but is my power source going to be just as much of a constraint as the relatively small drivers in the 704s2? Along those lines - would the 704s2 be capable of better dynamics if driven by a more capable amp? I did try out one of the Monolith amps by Monoprice, but honestly it didn't add much to my ears so I sent it back.

Appreciate any thoughts and feedback.
Are you using ARC?
How many cubic feet is your room?
The 704 S2 is a great, but surprisingly power hungry speaker. The size of the drivers doesn't play a role in this as much as the sensitivity of the speaker and the fact that it regularly dips below 4 ohms.
I have B&W CM8s (early predecessor to the 704 S2) and I've always found that it sounded best if bi-amped and driven with plenty of power (>100W continuously at 8 ohms).
The 702 S2 is a great speaker and would be an impressive upgrade unless you have a smaller room that the 704 S2 is better suited for.

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Are you using ARC?
How many cubic feet is your room?
The 704 S2 is a great, but surprisingly power hungry speaker. The size of the drivers doesn't play a role in this as much as the sensitivity of the speaker and the fact that it regularly dips below 4 ohms.
I have B&W CM8s (early predecessor to the 704 S2) and I've always found that it sounded best if bi-amped and driven with plenty of power (>100W continuously at 8 ohms).
The 702 S2 is a great speaker and would be an impressive upgrade unless you have a smaller room that the 704 S2 is better suited for.
My room's about 2,000 cubic feet - 12x24x7 carpeted, finished basement. I have mostly used ARC, but I've been going back-and-forth the past week, trying to determine if I prefer it without. It's difficult to judge, as overall levels are a lot louder just by turning ARC off so it gives an impression of being more dynamic right away, but I think that's just a matter of needing to adjust volume levels.

I know the 702s2 would be an improvement, I listened to them alongside the 704s2 when auditioning, but they were then and still are very much beyond my budget. Even the 703s2 are beyond budget, I just happen to have found a used example for a price I can probably swing. I'm just not sure if I'm just going to be in the same boat as I am now, just with less money to spend on an amp.
When I auditioned, everything was powered by some massive McIntosh, and sounded sublime. At that point comparing speakers had very little to do with dynamics or volume, and more to do with actual differences in how they reproduce sound instead, and given that context I came out absolutely gobsmacked by how good the 704s2 can be, and again by how awesome the 702s2 are. I'm afraid I don't have McIntosh money, but if a used 702s2 pair were to suddenly show up for a price I can swing, I would pick those up without hesitation.

So I guess my question is really: should I get the bigger speakers (in this case referring to the 703s2), or should I instead get a nice amp (thinking - used Parasound Halo A21, or maybe Rotel RMB-1582). I don't always listen at reference level, but when I do I want to be "wow"ed each time.
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My room's about 2,000 cubic feet - 12x24x7 carpeted, finished basement. I have mostly used ARC, but I've been going back-and-forth the past week, trying to determine if I prefer it without. It's difficult to judge, as overall levels are a lot louder just by turning ARC off so it gives an impression of being more dynamic right away, but I think that's just a matter of needing to adjust volume levels.

I know the 702s2 would be an improvement, I listened to them alongside the 704s2 when auditioning, but they were then and still are very much beyond my budget. Even the 703s2 are beyond budget, I just happen to have found a used example for a price I can probably swing. I'm just not sure if I'm just going to be in the same boat as I am now, just with less money to spend on an amp.
When I auditioned, everything was powered by some massive McIntosh, and sounded sublime. At that point comparing speakers had very little to do with dynamics or volume, and more to do with actual differences in how they reproduce sound instead, and given that context I came out absolutely gobsmacked by how good the 704s2 can be, and again by how awesome the 702s2 are. I'm afraid I don't have McIntosh money, but if a used 702s2 pair were to suddenly show up for a price I can swing, I would pick those up without hesitation.

So I guess my question is really: should I get the bigger speakers (in this case referring to the 703s2), or should I instead get a nice amp (thinking - used Parasound Halo A21, or maybe Rotel RMB-1582). I don't always listen at reference level, but when I do I want to be "wow"ed each time.
Is your use mostly music or mostly theater? I don't think the amp will make much impact. If you're use is theater, I'd suggest trying to get that center upgraded to at least an HTM2D3. That probably makes the most difference for you over anything. If your use is mostly music, then I'd say the 704S2-->702S2 is a huge upgrade.
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Hi. I currently run a 3.0 setup with 804 D3's and HTM2 D3. I'm looking to upgrade into a 7.1. Does anyone have experience with M-1 compared to AM-1 as surround speaker?
I know proper bookshelf speakers would be better, but WAF demands smaller surrounds wall mounted near ceiling

Any advice would be appreciated.

Room is 244 x 516 x 679 (cm) or 8 x 16.9 x 11.3 (feet) and tv is setup on the long wall.

Thanks
Jessens
My suggestion here is to pass on the M1's or similar. Quantity is always worse than quality. You have a great front stage. M1's will bring ambiance to the rear, but the quality is so poor compared to what you have I'd suggest just sticking to 3.1. Can you do 5.1 with 2 decent speakers instead? Perhaps a couple 706S2's mounted on the rear walls either via speaker mounts or shelves?

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Is your use mostly music or mostly theater? I don't think the amp will make much impact. If you're use is theater, I'd suggest trying to get that center upgraded to at least an HTM2D3. That probably makes the most difference for you over anything. If your use is mostly music, then I'd say the 704S2-->702S2 is a huge upgrade.
Thanks for the feedback - I think you're probably correct and I'd get less out of an amp than I would get out of the 702s2 upgrade. My use is probably more like 50/50 music/theater, but I'm much more interested in getting the best 2-channel music listening setup than I am upping my home theater game. I'm guessing general opinion here would be that 704s2--->703s2 is not enough gain to warrant the extra investment?

Not to throw another wrench in the mix, but if I were to decide to up the budget (okay, if my wife decides to let me up the budget) - I could potentially grab a used pair of 805d3 for the price of 702s2 new. I think I understand that there are a myriad of things the 805d3 would do better (or, *should* do better) than the 702s2, but I also have to imagine dynamics and bass extension are not on that list of things, correct? And how awful would my HTM71s2 sound as part of that front soundstage?
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Thanks for the feedback - I think you're probably correct and I'd get less out of an amp than I would get out of the 702s2 upgrade. My use is probably more like 50/50 music/theater, but I'm much more interested in getting the best 2-channel music listening setup than I am upping my home theater game. I'm guessing general opinion here would be that 704s2--->703s2 is not enough gain to warrant the extra investment?

Not to throw another wrench in the mix, but if I were to decide to up the budget (okay, if my wife decides to let me up the budget) - I could potentially grab a used pair of 805d3 for the price of 702s2 new. I think I understand that there are a myriad of things the 805d3 would do better (or, *should* do better) than the 702s2, but I also have to imagine dynamics and bass extension are not on that list of things, correct? And how awful would my HTM71s2 sound as part of that front soundstage?
I own both 702S2's and 805D3's. To be honest, I prefer the 702S2's to the 805D3's for music by a large margin. I also have 802D3's. I have had 803D3's and 804D3's in my room to test. My preference for music ran like this:

802D3-->702S2-->805D3-->803D3-->804D3.
The 805D3's have a close tonal match to the 802D3's and have similar staging but just lack some sort of oomph. The 702S2's have all that oomph but lack the staging of the 800 series. Tonally, I love the 702S2's. They're so warm sounding and not at all harsh. The 702S2s are a big upgrade to 703S2's. The 703S2's in my opinion are a small upgrade to 704S2's. I'd hold off and save your money until you can go from 704 to 702. I'd pass on 805D3's but that's just my personal preference.

The center I have is the HTM1D3 and it's super musical. The HTM71 is not a good center in my opinion. The drivers are just too small. B&W blew it with the 700 series center. The HTM1D3 is basically an 802D3 in a center sized box. The HTM2D3 is basically an 803D3 in a center sized box. The HTM71 is not a 702S2 in a center sized box Whether or not it will add anything for music I"d say with 702S2's you'll probably want it turned off during 2 channel music. My HTM1D3 definitely adds to the sound stage for 2 channel music. I have it enabled at -3DB here.

Prior to my 802D3's, I had 803D2's then I bought the HTM1D3 center and the center was more musical and nicer sounding than my 803D2's which is why I ended up upgrading to 802D3's.

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I just did a short A/B comparison between my CM6s2 and 704s2. The 704s2 definitely has more + punchier bass, slightly thinner but crisper mids, and treble that I like better but can't put a finger on why. The CM6s2 then has less bass punch, but fuller mids that seem a bit mellowed out in comparison. Again - I preferred the highs on the 704 but couldn't tell you why.

The assumption I'm making based on this very unprofessional comparison is that the continuum cone is allowing for the crisper/more detailed mids, and that the larger driver on the CM6s2 is what's giving those same mids their fullness. And if that assumption is correct (I know making assumptions is second-rate to actually experiencing things, but it's all I've got right now), would the 705s2 then offer the crips and detailed mids from the 704 alongside the full mids of the CM6? Or does the driver material have more to do with it? I guess it's also possible the smaller driver is what's allowing for a crisper sound instead of the driver material.

ps - I think by "crisper" I actually mean "more detailed". To me that presents itself most obviously in distorted guitars from the likes of Highly Suspect, where the added detail makes them sound much more crisp.
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I am currently running two CCM663 speakers in my Atmos home theater and will be adding two more this weekend for a 5.1.4 system. I have a Denon x4200W doing the processing. My question is, should I pivot the tweeter the full 30 degrees and point them at the main listening position? This is what I currently do. I am not sure if this is the recommended way or not.

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I am currently running two CCM663 speakers in my Atmos home theater and will be adding two more this weekend for a 5.1.4 system. I have a Denon x4200W doing the processing. My question is, should I pivot the tweeter the full 30 degrees and point them at the main listening position? This is what I currently do. I am not sure if this is the recommended way or not.

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I have my CCM663 at a 45 deg angle and the tweeters at 30 deg. I didn't want the Atmos channels directly on top of me because I didn't want to be able to pick out their location... I wonder a little though if I should have put the speakers at 30 deg and their tweeters at 30 deg as well...

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I am currently running two CCM663 speakers in my Atmos home theater and will be adding two more this weekend for a 5.1.4 system. I have a Denon x4200W doing the processing. My question is, should I pivot the tweeter the full 30 degrees and point them at the main listening position? This is what I currently do. I am not sure if this is the recommended way or not.

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I think it should point towards main listening position. You want the sounds from above to be as directional as possible as that's the entire point of those speakers.

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I just did a short A/B comparison between my CM6s2 and 704s2. The 704s2 definitely has more + punchier bass, slightly thinner but crisper mids, and treble that I like better but can't put a finger on why. The CM6s2 then has less bass punch, but fuller mids that seem a bit mellowed out in comparison. Again - I preferred the highs on the 704 but couldn't tell you why.

The assumption I'm making based on this very unprofessional comparison is that the continuum cone is allowing for the crisper/more detailed mids, and that the larger driver on the CM6s2 is what's giving those same mids their fullness. And if that assumption is correct (I know making assumptions is second-rate to actually experiencing things, but it's all I've got right now), would the 705s2 then offer the crips and detailed mids from the 704 alongside the full mids of the CM6? Or does the driver material have more to do with it? I guess it's also possible the smaller driver is what's allowing for a crisper sound instead of the driver material.

ps - I think by "crisper" I actually mean "more detailed". To me that presents itself most obviously in distorted guitars from the likes of Highly Suspect, where the added detail makes them sound much more crisp.
How does 704s2 + cm6s2 together sound compared to just 704s2 alone? When we were messing around here, a front speaker set consisting of 805D3+702S2 per side actually sounded fantastic.

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I have my CCM663 at a 45 deg angle and the tweeters at 30 deg. I didn't want the Atmos channels directly on top of me because I didn't want to be able to pick out their location... I wonder a little though if I should have put the speakers at 30 deg and their tweeters at 30 deg as well...
This is exactly what I am doing now and have been debating changing it if there is a good reason or theory for a different setup.
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Does anyone on here, who owns B&W 706 S2 or 707 S2 speakers, use the FS-700 S2 speaker stands with them?

If so, what do you think of them? Are they worth the money? I like the fact that you can bolt the speakers to the top plate, it avoids using spikes or blue-tack and protects the finish of the cabinets.

I'm looking to get a pair of 706 S2s to replace my old 602 S3s and I'm keen to get opinions on these stands, which have been designed specifically for the 706/707 S2 speakers. I realise they are expensive stands and cheaper alternatives exist.

Please don't reply with "buy a used pair of ... " or similar!!!

I'm interested in what owners of these stands think of them, not suggestions for alternatives...

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How does 704s2 + cm6s2 together sound compared to just 704s2 alone? When we were messing around here, a front speaker set consisting of 805D3+702S2 per side actually sounded fantastic.
Honestly the combo is pretty great - feels like I'm getting the detail from the 704s2 with the fullness of the cm6s2. I started my B&W journey with the cm6s2 pair, then decided to add a center. Got the HTM71s2 and immediately noticed that same detail - so for a long time when listening to music I'd use "all channel stereo" on my receiver to have it all in the mix, and that's what ultimately led me to start looking at 700-series mains. This is basically the same effect.

I've been watching audiogon the past week, and finally noticed a pair of 702s2 for a price I could feel good about. Pulled the trigger this morning, cannot wait.

When I initially moved the cm6s2 in back for surround duty, I noticed a much better sense of rear channel effects than what I'd been getting from the Emotiva T-Zero I had there - I've been attributing that to the top-mounted tweeter, or maybe it has more to do with the height of that tweeter vs the previous pair, so I'm planning on keeping them back there. The 704s2 will eventually end up listed for sale.

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Honestly the combo is pretty great - feels like I'm getting the detail from the 704s2 with the fullness of the cm6s2. I started my B&W journey with the cm6s2 pair, then decided to add a center. Got the HTM71s2 and immediately noticed that same detail - so for a long time when listening to music I'd use "all channel stereo" on my receiver to have it all in the mix, and that's what ultimately led me to start looking at 700-series mains. This is basically the same effect.

I've been watching audiogon the past week, and finally noticed a pair of 702s2 for a price I could feel good about. Pulled the trigger this morning, cannot wait.

When I initially moved the cm6s2 in back for surround duty, I noticed a much better sense of rear channel effects than what I'd been getting from the Emotiva T-Zero I had there - I've been attributing that to the top-mounted tweeter, or maybe it has more to do with the height of that tweeter vs the previous pair, so I'm planning on keeping them back there and will probably put up the 704s2 pair for sale in the classifieds in the next couple of weeks.
Nice I think you'll love the 702S2. What about putting the 704S2 in rear channels and selling the CM6? Maybe when the 702S2's show you should play with that before selling them
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Guys, I need some answers to a couple of questions....

Right now, I have a 7.2 B&W CM S2 system. I would like to explore adding height channels for atmos. Are there in ceiling speakers that are a great tonal match to the CM S2 series? If not, how viable an option would it be to source used bookshelves from the series and find suitable ceiling brackets to mount them as height channels?

Also, if I make the jump to the 700 series, are there suitable in ceiling options for that series, and for those of you who have lived with them a while, are the new comtinuum speakers and carbon dome tweeters a dramatic upgrade?
I haven't heard the CMs, so take this for what it's worth, but I just added Atmos to my setup which consists of first version 703s, the matching HTM7 for the centre and DS6 S3s for the surrounds. I didn't want to invest a pile of money into the height channels given that they're mainly for effects, so I went with a pair of CCM362s. I installed them last weekend, re-ran the room correction on my receiver and have watched to a few movies since then.

I'm very happy with how it turned out. I wasn't sure how much more 5.1.2 would give me over 5.1, but it's a very worthwhile upgrade IMHO.
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So, short questing... Would you buy 804 D3 now or wait for coming D4?
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