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post #27781 of 28114 Old 03-13-2020, 01:22 PM
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was in my local Magnolia the other day drooling over the new McIntosh/B&W systems..........
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I absolutely love my Nautilus 803's, an era when quality wasn't comprised over cost. Boy have times changed. Everything has become so disposable. Good luck to the new CEO as I am sure it will be challenging!
I too have a pair of Nautilus 803's that I absolutely love. They are great speakers. I just wish they had magnetic grills like the newer B&W's have. I broke a couple of the pins that hold the grills in place on one of the speakers and sometimes the grills will get dislodged and look crooked. Any recommendations/suggestions on how I can remedy this problem? Patrick Butler may have a suggestion or two as well. Thanks.

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I absolutely love my Nautilus 803's, an era when quality wasn't comprised over cost. Boy have times changed. Everything has become so disposable. Good luck to the new CEO as I am sure it will be challenging!
I too have a pair of Nautilus 803's that I absolutely love. They are great speakers. I just wish they had magnetic grills like the newer B&W's have. I broke a couple of the pins that hold the grills in place on one of the speakers and sometimes the grills will get dislodged and look crooked. Any recommendations/suggestions on how I can remedy this problem? Patrick Butler may have a suggestion or two as well. Thanks.

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HI to all!

Someone have here CM10 s2? I have some problem with hard high frequency..

Maybe someone have another problem and fix it? By amp or another things..
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HI to all!

Someone have here CM10 s2? I have some problem with hard high frequency..

Maybe someone have another problem and fix it? By amp or another things..
In first I dont see thread, and post this thread, here my problem: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...l#post59375778
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The walls around your speakers look pretty hard. What does the rest of the space look like?

Also, when you clap your hands do you hear an echo, or does the sound go away pretty quickly?

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The walls around your speakers look pretty hard. What does the rest of the space look like?

Also, when you clap your hands do you hear an echo, or does the sound go away pretty quickly?

Around it another 3 walls. All walls are concrete.


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Its go away quickly but with some echo effect. I dont know how describe this...))
When i walk in room or talk its no echo.=)
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Guys, what do you think about yamaha s2100 to BW CM 10 s2?

Or buy rotel 1592?
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Filling the stands with sand increases their mass and dampens the resonance of the columns. Think of the speaker as an orange on a spring. As the speaker pushes against the air it wobbles back and forth. Not a large amount, but just enough to decrease how locked together the two speakers are together as a system. The result of sand-filling is "tighter" bass (more solid might be a better adjective) and a smoother midrange. Being harder to tip over is the side benefit.

I don't have any details that I can share regarding the impact of adding a Formation Bass to Duo. Let me see what I can find for you.

Regarding 702S2 vs. Duo, like with many things I think it comes down to how effectively a tool can be used as the limiting factor. I can get 702S2 to run circles around Duo in most regards, but I also have the liberty of knowing how to get the full measure out of 702. For some people, Duo will be a better tool for listening to music. Simple to setup, easy to use and super fun to listen to.
I have the 702s, can you share how to get the full measure out of them? Thanks.
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Good to see Patrick posting here again. Maybe he can give us a teaser of any updates to a certain flagship line?
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Hey Drew,

Hope you are doing well! As you can imagine, product launches require coordination across many facets of the business over a long period of time. Even if I knew anything, it would not be for me to share.

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Now that I've spent some time with the 804D it is the best speaker I've ever owned. Paired with 2 subs I can't help but take out a mandatory 30-60 minutes every day just listening to music. And given the current state of the world there is not much else to do at the moment as we are all locked up inside.

It honestly is marvelous for pretty much all genres. I couldn't be happier. Gone are the bright impressions as my ears are fully adjusted to it. It just sounds airy, clean, with a sparkle up top.
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Hope you are doing well! As you can imagine, product launches require coordination across many facets of the business over a long period of time. Even if I knew anything, it would not be for me to share.

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Upgraded the video side of the house, now it's time to upgrade the audio. Considering the following setup: Fronts L/R- B&W 702 S2, HTM71 S2 for center, 705 S2 for surrounds, SVS PB-2000 Pro sub all powered by my Anthem MRX 720. Haven't had a chance to audition these speakers yet, just read all the reviews and want to upgrade my 17 year old CM series B&Ws. What do you guys think of this setup? Would the 720 be fine with these or do I need more power like the Anthem MCA 525? Your help is much appreciated!

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Upgraded the video side of the house, now it's time to upgrade the audio. Considering the following setup: Fronts L/R- B&W 702 S2, HTM71 S2 for center, 705 S2 for surrounds, SVS PB-2000 Pro sub all powered by my Anthem MRX 720. Haven't had a chance to audition these speakers yet, just read all the reviews and want to upgrade my 17 year old CM series B&Ws. What do you guys think of this setup? Would the 720 be fine with these or do I need more power like the Anthem MCA 525? Your help is much appreciated!
I think it will depend on how loud you listen and the size of your room.

I'm running an MRX 720 with my B&W 703s, an HTM7 center, DS6 S3s for surrounds, and CCM 362s for the Atmos channels (I'm only running 5.1.2). I have a Paradigm Studio Sub 12 for the low end, and everything is crossed over at 80Hz with the exception of the surrounds (100Hz). It's goes plenty loud for me and has great dynamics just using the MRX 720. It depends on the source, but I usually listen between -40 and -25 on the master volume control. My MLP is about 8 feet away from the front speakers in a room that is about 12X20 with 8 foot ceilings.

Prior to getting my MRX 720 I was running my fronts off of a Rotel RB-1080 that was 2X200. Haven't missed it at all. The MRX sounds significantly better actually, but that's almost certainly due to the room correction. I've come to conclude that for my current listening habits, the power put out by the MRX 720 is ample.

My suggestion is to hook everything up to the receiver first, live with your system for a decent period of time and then decide if you need a a more stout amp.
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The reason I’m concerned about enough power is that all the reviews I’ve read suggest the 700 series require plenty of power and my living room is an open concept area with 9 ft ceilings. But I might do as you suggest and try them out without an amp! Thanks!!


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The reason I’m concerned about enough power is that all the reviews I’ve read suggest the 700 series require plenty of power and my living room is an open concept area with 9 ft ceilings. But I might do as you suggest and try them out without an amp! Thanks!!


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I used to run 705 S2 with MRX720 and at no time I felt I didn’t have enough power. They are rated at 90 dB sensitivity so they are not very difficult speakers to drive. Only issue sometimes is that their minimum impedance goes to 3.5 ohm and some amps may have trouble driving it.


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I used to run 705 S2 with MRX720 and at no time I felt I didn’t have enough power. They are rated at 90 dB sensitivity so they are not very difficult speakers to drive. Only issue sometimes is that their minimum impedance goes to 3.5 ohm and some amps may have trouble driving it.


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Good to know! I might just start off without an amp and run them thru the 720. Are you guys happy with your 700 speakers?


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Guys, what do you think about yamaha s2100 to BW CM 10 s2?

Or buy rotel 1592?
The CM10s2 are regarded as marvelous speakers.
Both the Yamaha and the Rotel have received some very positive professional reviews.Some people find Onkyo Amps too bright.
I also see that you have Nordost cables.My experience has been that they can sound great but not with bright speakers.Mine (Blue Heaven,Heimdal and Frey) were excellent with my previous (very warm)CM9 speakers but way too bright for my tastes with my current 702s2.
If I were aiming for a less bright sound I would get (if possible)as much soft furnishings,carpets,heavy curtains etc into the room.At least that’s how my small snug old fashioned room is and I achieve a wonderful mellow sound with my classical cds.
I also recently added a small modest musical B&W sub to my system and have been delighted how much more balanced (and even more mellow,warm and refined)my music sounds.
I’m sure you will sort out your problem soon.

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Yup very happy. I use then 705S2 as my main living room speakers.

With the 804 in the main theatre


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Yup very happy. I use then 705S2 as my main living room speakers.

With the 804 in the main theatre


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Nice to hear! I might have to buy them without auditioning.


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Mine are the original 700 series, and I haven't listened to the new ones to see how they compare. I love my 703s. Really clean and detailed sounding speaker, fantastic imaging, and great midrange. I can't justify changing them to be honest. I suspect that the center channel options of the new 700 series are better than the HTM7. I've no complaints with it, but it's a 2 way design and I suspect the new offerings are allot more dynamic. Again though, no major urge to upgrade. I've had these speakers for over ten years and I still smile whenever I listen to them.

That said, I would absolutely NOT recommend buying the new ones without listening to them first. They are expensive speakers and with speakers being such a personal taste, I think you should definitely hear them before committing. Listen to them, and then listen to a bunch of other options in a similar price range to make sure you're buying the right speaker for you. Listening is free, buying is not
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Mine are the original 700 series, and I haven't listened to the new ones to see how they compare. I love my 703s. Really clean and detailed sounding speaker, fantastic imaging, and great midrange. I can't justify changing them to be honest. I suspect that the center channel options of the new 700 series are better than the HTM7. I've no complaints with it, but it's a 2 way design and I suspect the new offerings are allot more dynamic. Again though, no major urge to upgrade. I've had these speakers for over ten years and I still smile whenever I listen to them.

That said, I would absolutely NOT recommend buying the new ones without listening to them first. They are expensive speakers and with speakers being such a personal taste, I think you should definitely hear them before committing. Listen to them, and then listen to a bunch of other options in a similar price range to make sure you're buying the right speaker for you. Listening is free, buying is not

I appreciate your advise! I currently own the old CM series which I’ve had since 2003 and enjoy them but you can’t find parts for them anymore and the drivers keep cracking on them. So I’m familiar with the B&W sound but I live in PR and there is only one dealer and don’t know what they have in stock and everything non-essential is closed. The original 700s are nice, enjoy!


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^have you looked at the direct part store? i live about a few miles from there and pickup parts no problem. imho you should try to find your part here and get everything fixed up.

the thing about older/traditional lines of speaker companies like B&W is their support and (so far) it's been amazing for parts. otherwise, you might be looking at price gouging on ebay for obsolete parts.

i replaced both my tweeters for 703s1 and they are good as new now.

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hello there! i'm a fellow 703s1 owner! i only got in the last few years and haven't had 2much time... but i drove them with an older 4308ci and even in stereo somn was missing i felt like. i mean it's still pretty good considering i upgraded from 303 ("yuge" upgrade).

i just received Rotel RB-990 a few weeks ago and OMG... it was like (to me) night and day. just tremendous imaging and the entire sound stage completely opened up in all content from music to movies to gaming to everything.

so my own personal lesson is that if you can obtain a good class A, or AB amp that to me is the way to go . i've demo'd class D on/off throughout the years... but i'm probably a A, AB classic amp guy for life.

but like you've been saying YMMV.

my center is an older HTM61, i was originally considering 600 series upgrade.... but snatched these at a handful of franklins and it was too good to pass up. what a major upgrade it was for me.

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I think it will depend on how loud you listen and the size of your room.

I'm running an MRX 720 with my B&W 703s, an HTM7 center, DS6 S3s for surrounds, and CCM 362s for the Atmos channels (I'm only running 5.1.2). I have a Paradigm Studio Sub 12 for the low end, and everything is crossed over at 80Hz with the exception of the surrounds (100Hz). It's goes plenty loud for me and has great dynamics just using the MRX 720. It depends on the source, but I usually listen between -40 and -25 on the master volume control. My MLP is about 8 feet away from the front speakers in a room that is about 12X20 with 8 foot ceilings.

Prior to getting my MRX 720 I was running my fronts off of a Rotel RB-1080 that was 2X200. Haven't missed it at all. The MRX sounds significantly better actually, but that's almost certainly due to the room correction. I've come to conclude that for my current listening habits, the power put out by the MRX 720 is ample.

My suggestion is to hook everything up to the receiver first, live with your system for a decent period of time and then decide if you need a a more stout amp.

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^have you looked at the direct part store? i live about a few miles from there and pickup parts no problem. imho you should try to find your part here and get everything fixed up.

the thing about older/traditional lines of speaker companies like B&W is their support and (so far) it's been amazing for parts. otherwise, you might be looking at price gouging on ebay for obsolete parts.

i replaced both my tweeters for 703s1 and they are good as new now.







hello there! i'm a fellow 703s1 owner! i only got in the last few years and haven't had 2much time... but i drove them with an older 4308ci and even in stereo somn was missing i felt like. i mean it's still pretty good considering i upgraded from 303 ("yuge" upgrade).

i just received Rotel RB-990 a few weeks ago and OMG... it was like (to me) night and day. just tremendous imaging and the entire sound stage completely opened up in all content from music to movies to gaming to everything.

so my own personal lesson is that if you can obtain a good class A, or AB amp that to me is the way to go . i've demo'd class D on/off throughout the years... but i'm probably a A, AB classic amp guy for life.

but like you've been saying YMMV.

my center is an older HTM61, i was originally considering 600 series upgrade.... but snatched these at a handful of franklins and it was too good to pass up. what a major upgrade it was for me.

JediFonger I appreciate the link but most of the parts for my CM4s, CMC & CM2s are discontinued and you can’t even find them in ebay. Only option is to repair them and this is an excuse to upgrade


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Upgraded the video side of the house, now it's time to upgrade the audio. Considering the following setup: Fronts L/R- B&W 702 S2, HTM71 S2 for center, 705 S2 for surrounds, SVS PB-2000 Pro sub all powered by my Anthem MRX 720. Haven't had a chance to audition these speakers yet, just read all the reviews and want to upgrade my 17 year old CM series B&Ws. What do you guys think of this setup? Would the 720 be fine with these or do I need more power like the Anthem MCA 525? Your help is much appreciated!
The 720 provides plenty power for this setup. Adding another amp that doubled the power would only yield you another 3dB total sound, which is probably not worth it.

Interestingly enough, if music is out of the picture, I'd bet you'd get more improvement if you left all your existing speakers in place and spent all your money on a single HTM1D3 center channel using that with your CM series VS going with HTM71 and all those 700 series speakers. If music is a big priority, then I take that recommendation back. I am not a fan of the 700 series centers. I think with Anthem's really good implementation of phantom center, you'd also do better with 702S2's + no center than 702S2's + HTM71.

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The 720 provides plenty power for this setup. Adding another amp that doubled the power would only yield you another 3dB total sound, which is probably not worth it.

Interestingly enough, if music is out of the picture, I'd bet you'd get more improvement if you left all your existing speakers in place and spent all your money on a single HTM1D3 center channel using that with your CM series VS going with HTM71 and all those 700 series speakers. If music is a big priority, then I take that recommendation back. I am not a fan of the 700 series centers. I think with Anthem's really good implementation of phantom center, you'd also do better with 702S2's + no center than 702S2's + HTM71.

Hadn’t considered the different options you suggest but will definitely keep in mind. Sent an email to the local dealer to see if they carry the 700 series so I can audition them after this pandemic. I do listen to music markmon1 about 30% of the time. Thanks for your ideas!


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Hadn’t considered the different options you suggest but will definitely keep in mind. Sent an email to the local dealer to see if they carry the 700 series so I can audition them after this pandemic. I do listen to music markmon1 about 30% of the time. Thanks for your ideas!
Yea another option for music is also the CM10's + HTM1D3 using Anthem's "all channel stereo" mode.

By the way, the Anthem is fantastic for something where you want movies and music due to its virtual inputs. You can configure a single source to have 2 separate inputs. For example, over here I have:

Input name: PC Video
Input source: HDMI 1
Input profile: speaker profile 1
- profile 1 has:
- All 11 speakers are enabled
- Crossovers are all set to 80hz
- Sub volume is -10
- Room correction on
- 2 channel is converted to dolby surround

Input name: PC Audio
Input source: HDMI 1 (same physical input)
Input profile: speaker profile 2
- profile 2 has:
- left right front speakers enabled.
- left right surround enabled
- subwoofer enabled
- subwoofer crossover at 60hz
- left and right surround levels set to -6 (better for slight rear fill)
- subwoofer level set to +6
- 2 channel audio is not converted to dolby surround but into all channel stereo
- Room correction is OFF

Now you can one button switch inputs between the two as if they were actual different inputs.

Anyways, if you do go audition the 702S2's hopefully they have a receiver there where you can test movies with phantom center (and stand right in between the two 702s2's). The htm71 drivers are very small and that center really lacks all chest slam. The 702s2s are just way more powerful sounding and would probably yield a better "fake" center than adding the htm71. Of course the HTM1D3 is just in a class of its own.

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