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I have a 700 S2 set-up and my room is 22 x 14. My 7.2 surrounds are 707's work fine. I did try some 706's after living with the 707's for a year. Found the 706 a little better, but not enough to change. Plus the bigger speaker made moving by the couch and speaker a pain. So I stayed with the 707.
Yep that´s true , 707s2 its works fine with 805D3, HTM2D3 and JL F113.

Now I have tested a lot of B&W models.


M-1 = Different sound, and sound not have enough body.

AM-1 = Different sound.

607 = Good, but the treble does not match the front end.

606 = Good, but the treble does not match the front end.

706s2 = Good match treble and midbass, but placement is a little trickier.

707s2 = Good match treble and enough midbass (80hz crossover), easier to find a suitable place.
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Hi B&W UK said that for the 800D3 you need min 16feet x 24feet room. What room sizes do you have for this speaker and does it work well? Thanks
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B&W 702 S2 Midrange driver repair help

Somebody knows how to remove the midrange speaker on the 700 series? One of my speakers midrange is not reproducing any sound.

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Somebody knows how to remove the midrange speaker on the 700 series? One of my speakers midrange is not reproducing any sound.

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If it’s the new 700 series with the decoupled midrange you’ll need to pull the dust cap off, then use a special tool to unscrew it and it comes right out. I had an issue with mine a few months after I bought and turned out this little blue resistor thing for which I’m forgetting the name was damaged. Those go first to protect the driver in the event of overdriving.

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If it’s the new 700 series with the decoupled midrange you’ll need to pull the dust cap off, then use a special tool to unscrew it and it comes right out. I had an issue with mine a few months after I bought and turned out this little blue resistor thing for which I’m forgetting the name was damaged. Those go first to protect the driver in the event of overdriving.
Did you have this "special tool", can you take a picture of that tool?.
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Hello all! I currently have audioquest rocket 44 standard cable, would exchanging for rocket 44 biwire cable make a difference?
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Hello all! I currently have audioquest rocket 44 standard cable, would exchanging for rocket 44 biwire cable make a difference?

Cables unless the gauge is different and the run is long don’t matter.

Also unless you are using external active crossover, and have decent amps, bi-wiring doesn’t have any proven benefit. I would not waste money on upgrading cables and spend that on room treatments


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Also unless you are using external active crossover, and have decent amps, bi-wiring doesn’t have any proven benefit. I would not waste money on upgrading cables and spend that on room treatments
Bi-wiring does have a proven benefit, albeit minor. If someone has to choose between room treatments and cable upgrades then the former would be the better investment. The reality is you don't have to spend a lot on cables to reap the benefits of bi-wiring. People that think you do is the true misnomer.
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Bi-wiring does have a proven benefit, albeit minor. If someone has to choose between room treatments and cable upgrades then the former would be the better investment. The reality is you don't have to spend a lot on cables to reap the benefits of bi-wiring. People that think you do is the true misnomer.
Doubt biwiring has any benefits. A huge thick gold plated bridge does plenty. The only benefit provided by biwiring is doubling the thickness of the wires by having 2 runs.

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Cables unless the gauge is different and the run is long don’t matter.

Also unless you are using external active crossover, and have decent amps, bi-wiring doesn’t have any proven benefit. I would not waste money on upgrading cables and spend that on room treatments


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Just for clarification, you are mixing bi-wiring and bi-amping in the same discussion- two different things.


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Hello everyone,

Been enjoying my new 702 s2 for a few days :-) upgraded from the S684 s2.

I have them powered by an Anthem MCA225 power amp which is connected to the pre outs of my NAD T758 v3 avr.

I m still using my older 600 series for surrounds & center. Thing is i want to upgrade my center speaker & confused between the HTM71 or 72.

The HTM 72 will slide in my Tv cabinet easily where my previous 600 series center is, if i go for the HTM71 then i have to put it on a center speaker stand infront of the Tv cabinet.(wife doesn't like that idea)

Is the HTM71 a big jump from the HTM72 & worth all the drama for me which is get the center stand & convince the wife? Also the center speaker will be power by the NAD avr itself. Will that be enough for the HTM71?

Inputs would be great.

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Hello everyone,

Been enjoying my new 702 s2 for a few days :-) upgraded from the S684 s2.

I have them powered by an Anthem MCA225 power amp which is connected to the pre outs of my NAD T758 v3 avr.

I m still using my older 600 series for surrounds & center. Thing is i want to upgrade my center speaker & confused between the HTM71 or 72.

The HTM 72 will slide in my Tv cabinet easily where my previous 600 series center is, if i go for the HTM71 then i have to put it on a center speaker stand infront of the Tv cabinet.(wife doesn't like that idea)

Is the HTM71 a big jump from the HTM72 & worth all the drama for me which is get the center stand & convince the wife? Also the center speaker will be power by the NAD avr itself. Will that be enough for the HTM71?

Inputs would be great.

Thanks.

Hi, how you like your 702? I power them with the new model MC257 and 8805 they sound great
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Hi, how you like your 702? I power them with the new model MC257 and 8805 they sound great
They are lovely :-) How's the HTM71 s2 center speaker? Do they blend well with the 702s?


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They are lovely :-) How's the HTM71 s2 center speaker? Do they blend well with the 702s?


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[QUOTE=blackspider;59891180]They are lovely :-) How's the HTM71 s2 center speaker? Do they blend well with the 702s?

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The center is doing a great job with the 702s

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They Nice!!! I have the CM5 s2 they sound super
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Thanks! Very happy with them, much fuller and detailed sound than the CM2s they replaced.


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I would go for the 71 S2 with the 702 S2

I have the 72 S2, it does sound great, but i wished i'd gone with the 71.

i'll be looking at changing it over to a HTM71 once we get around to renovating our new place.
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I would go for the 71 S2 with the 702 S2

I have the 72 S2, it does sound great, but i wished i'd gone with the 71.

i'll be looking at changing it over to a HTM71 once we get around to renovating our new place.
Save up for an HTM1D3. No joke.
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Save up for an HTM1D3. No joke.
wow HTM1D3 will be a killer center NICE!!
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Save up for an HTM1D3. No joke.
I have not doubt that these would be amazing, but

I'd be wasting my money spending $8900 AUD on the HTM1D3 compared to $1999 AUD HTM71 as i don't have a dedicated soundproofed Home Theatre to really crank those up at this present time and honestly my ears aren't as good as they use to be.

I'm currently designing our apartment remodelling, with better acoustic and sound isolation properties than what we have, at least i can put my Drafting qualifications and Cabinetmaking qualifications to use.

Decoupled/Isolated ceiling mounts, acoustic batts, dual layers of dampened green glued plasterboard, laminated hush glass and acoustic curtains for external noise will provide a better bang for buck than better HTM1D3 speakers at this point in time.
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I have not doubt that these would be amazing, but

I'd be wasting my money spending $8900 AUD on the HTM1D3 compared to $1999 AUD HTM71 as i don't have a dedicated soundproofed Home Theatre to really crank those up at this present time and honestly my ears aren't as good as they use to be.

I'm currently designing our apartment remodelling, with better acoustic and sound isolation properties than what we have, at least i can put my Drafting qualifications and Cabinetmaking qualifications to use.

Decoupled/Isolated ceiling mounts, acoustic batts, dual layers of dampened green glued plasterboard, laminated hush glass and acoustic curtains for external noise will provide a better bang for buck than better HTM1D3 speakers at this point in time.
Honestly, those AU prices are just ridiculous. I can see your perspective at those prices.
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Hello everyone,

Been enjoying my new 702 s2 for a few days :-) upgraded from the S684 s2.

I have them powered by an Anthem MCA225 power amp which is connected to the pre outs of my NAD T758 v3 avr.

I m still using my older 600 series for surrounds & center. Thing is i want to upgrade my center speaker & confused between the HTM71 or 72.

The HTM 72 will slide in my Tv cabinet easily where my previous 600 series center is, if i go for the HTM71 then i have to put it on a center speaker stand infront of the Tv cabinet.(wife doesn't like that idea)

Is the HTM71 a big jump from the HTM72 & worth all the drama for me which is get the center stand & convince the wife? Also the center speaker will be power by the NAD avr itself. Will that be enough for the HTM71?
Inputs would be great.

Thanks.
I had the exact same problem. Wanted the 71 but only had room for the 72. I was able to cut out part of the inside of cabinet to slide Oppo 203 over and make room for 71. I have about 1/4 inch of clearance now on each side of 71. I also placed felt tape running down the side of Oppo, 778, and bottom of cabinet shelf above 71 to ensure 71 does not get scratch when sliding in and out in case I make contact. The 71 has felt pads on bottom. Not sure if you have that option but I was going to make the 71 fit somehow. Sounds amazing!! I put on stands for when I want to rock out and watch movies for better dispersion. My new NAD 778 powers everything really really awesome; sounds so crisp and clear even when play super loud (a 5.1.2 system with sub being powered but it's own amp). My previous Denon x4200W couldn't power sufficiently; would cut out at reference volumes.


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I was wondering what crossover are you guys using with your 702s, HTM71?


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I had the exact same problem. Wanted the 71 but only had room for the 72. I was able to cut out part of the inside of cabinet to slide Oppo 203 over and make room for 71. I have about 1/4 inch of clearance now on each side of 71. I also placed felt tape running down the side of Oppo, 778, and bottom of cabinet shelf above 71 to ensure 71 does not get scratch when sliding in and out in case I make contact. The 71 has felt pads on bottom. Not sure if you have that option but I was going to make the 71 fit somehow. Sounds amazing!! I put on stands for when I want to rock out and watch movies for better dispersion. My new NAD 778 powers everything really really awesome; sounds so crisp and clear even when play super loud (a 5.1.2 system with sub being powered but it's own amp). My previous Denon x4200W couldn't power sufficiently; would cut out at reference volumes.


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Nice alteration you did, so you put the HTM71 also on a stand for movies? i have no option but to put it on a separate center speaker stand as can't do any alteration to the tv stand.
Mostly will get the HTM71 & put it on a dedicated stand infront of the Tv console, lets see.


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Nice alteration you did, so you put the HTM71 also on a stand for movies? i have no option but to put it on a separate center speaker stand as can't do any alteration to the tv stand.
Mostly will get the HTM71 & put it on a dedicated stand infront of the Tv console, lets see.


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I can but I leave center in place where it is. I'll let Dirac distance/levels make necessary adjustment. Will have two Dirac slots: 1) one for when in bookshelf and 2) when on stands. I know it's not the best setup but man does it sound great!! Post a pic of your setup; people are creative. Who knows, someone may find a solution.
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Well here is the pic of my setup, got a new power amp & front speakers which aren't in the pic but you get the basic point of my issue to fit the HTM71. No other solution except put a center speaker stand in the front of the unit

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