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Vlasto 02-08-2007 04:31 AM

I assume there are some Canton fans, so this is a place for us to write all about the this brand.

I own older Canton Ergo 700DC in stereo, driven by NAD 320BEE. CDP is NAD 524.

Ergo's provide clear, opened, dynamic and live sound, but I would say highs and mids are quite edgy (harsh), longer listening can be fatiguing. They are detailed, but I've heard speakers in such price range with more details. I feel lack of basses, but this depends on quality and style of recorded music. Big problem is my room with horrible acoustic and 'bass hole' inside.
I like every style of rock (except of nu metal), mostly progressive rock, Cantons play rock quite good, but I would appreciate more basses and depths. Bass drums are perforemed very well and generally Cantons play drums superbly.
I think slower music fits them better, jazz and acoustic music is very good. Their sound is not warm, but 'hard'.

Vlasto 02-12-2007 12:13 PM

Common guys.... I do not believe nobody owns some of them, Canton is a perfect brand...

quadriverfalls 02-12-2007 12:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vlasto View Post

Common guys.... I do not believe nobody owns some of them, Canton is a perfect brand...

I didn't care for them very much when I auditioned the Karat's. So, they aren't a perfect brand for me....

mlankton 02-13-2007 07:11 PM

I do think the Ergos and the entry level LE/GLE series have outstanding off axis performance. I bet they are great for home theater.

taxman48 02-14-2007 02:13 PM

here's a review of the Canton 5.1 Ergo speakers: http://www.***************.com/htsth...iew.php?rev=94

filcro1 10-16-2007 12:56 AM

I have a pair of Canton CT 1000's that have worked well for me for many years. If I saw another pair I would buy them.

Now I'm looking to set up a 7.1 sytem im in my den and I'll be looking to Canton again to see if they have a solid solution.

cphedrick 10-17-2007 07:38 PM

I purchased a pair of Canton Karat 709 DCs and the 705 CM (Center) hooked up to an Onkyo TX-NR905 (...bi-amping the 709s) in a 13'x19'x8' room. Unfortunately I don't have much experience with other speakers to offer good comparisons. I kind of took a leap of faith by purchasing them without first auditioning them, but I'm pleased with them. I liked them enough to blow the budget and purchase a pair of Karat 702s for surrounds (...obviously the wife likes them too).

Doc99 10-17-2007 08:04 PM

I own a pair of Canton Karat M30's. Awesome speakers.

Shadow Hunter 11-06-2007 11:23 AM

Has any one owned either LE 170, LE 190, or LE 207?
I have LE 102 and LE 103 and saw the above models for sale online.

feds27 01-04-2008 08:35 AM

I recently purchased a pair of 703DC's for my mains, a 705CM for my center, and the AS300SC for my sub. The build quality and finish are superb. The 703DC's are small 3-way bookshelves yet the sound is very full for such small speakers. My previous setup was based on the Revel F50a, a phenomenal speaker. The Cantons are much smaller, cost less, their modern/contemporary design fits my decor better, and they sound just as good. I'm debating getting another pair of 703DC's for rears or getting a pair of 707DC's or 709DC's for the mains and moving my 703DC's to the rear. Truly, the 703DC's sound so good that I do not miss having a full sized 3-way tower.

feds27 01-12-2008 01:50 PM

The first review does a great job of showing the build quality.

Review of the Karat Reference 2 DC:
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...reference-2-dc

Strereophile's Review of the Karat Reference 2 DC:
http://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/755/

Review of the Karat M80DC Floor, CM-7 Center, M30DC Bookshelf, and AS-300SC Sub:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...rs-3-2002.html

Review of the Karat S 8 DC Floor, CS-4 Center, S1 Bookshelf, and AS-200SC Sub:
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/speakers/496

JohnR_IN_LA 01-12-2008 03:02 PM

I own the Canton LE102s, mostly because they made my bedroom setup look good...

To be honest, I am a little spoiled, and find my Cantons fine but unspectacular...

The finish is probably as good as Infinity Betas ... but defnitely not on par with what you can get online.

The highs are good, the midrange is there, but recessed. The lows are as advertised, but nothing more...
The sound is fairly refined, it doesnt have rough edges ... but they aren't exactly overperformers either ...

I team them with a small but powerful subwoofer, and it makes a pretty good setup.

I paid about $250 for these, not alot of money, so I wasnt expecting alot, and they matched my expectations. But they never wowwed me.

On the other hand, Canton has great stylists working for them, I love the swanky metal grills! ...
LL

Kal Rubinson 01-12-2008 03:14 PM

Using 5 Vento Reference 9DC units at the moment.

Doc99 01-12-2008 04:04 PM

The LE's are there budget line. Big difference when you move up to the Karats, and Ventos. I own the Karat M-10 monitors. I had many speakers in my listening room to compare, and the Karats keep beating them. Last I compared them to Von Schweikert VR-1, Energy RC-10, B&W 601, among others. The Karats still remain on my stands. Awesome speakers!

feds27 01-12-2008 08:54 PM


feds27 01-12-2008 08:59 PM

A link to another thread started for Canton:

https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post11013400

armaraas 01-13-2008 10:37 AM

I while back I went to a custom installers home. He was considering picking up another line of speakers, so he got a couple pairs of Cantons to listen- GLE *02 and Vento 802, both bookshelves, brand new in box. We listened to the GLE's first, the newly updated version of the LE. They sounded pretty good. Then we hooked up the Vento's, and they DID sound really good. Going back and forth there was an obvious sound difference between the GLE and Vento. It was almost like the GLE had some coloration to them. After listening the Vento it was very noticable, but the longer you listened to the GLE's the better they sounded as I got used to the sound. I believe MSRP for the GLE was around $400, $2000 for the Vento pair. We listened to some other speakers that were around $800 msrp, and I told the guy that I do not think I would pay the extra $400 for them over the GLE's. However, with money not so much of an issue the Vento's would be the way to go. He thought they were some of the best speakers he had heard and picked up the Canton line later that week. The Vento's have been updated as well now so you can find the previous models on sale. I've seen the 802's for as little as $1000 a pair recently.

JohnR_IN_LA 01-13-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc99 View Post

The LE's are there budget line. Big difference when you move up to the Karats, and Ventos. I own the Karat M-10 monitors. I had many speakers in my listening room to compare, and the Karats keep beating them. Last I compared them to Von Schweikert VR-1, Energy RC-10, B&W 601, among others. The Karats still remain on my stands. Awesome speakers!

Yep I'm sure. And the LEs would be fine speakers $150-200 a pair, thats about the level of finish they had on them, etc.

Albanker 01-15-2008 07:15 PM

Last year for my home theater I used 2 LE107 floorstanders with an Ergo 605 CM center channel AS100sc sub and 2 in-ceiling 800's for rear (had to use in-ceilings for rear for room design)---May sound to some like a different mix but I enjoy the setup---For music and /or movies very nice warm sound in my opinion---Listened to many before choosing Canton

Nuance 01-15-2008 09:50 PM

One of my family members owns a par of Ergo 900's. To my ears they are bright and could use better bass extension. Are they detailed? Yup. Have I heard better or equal detail in a cheaper and less ear fatiguing speaker? Yes.

Still, better than Bose!

tedhontz 01-29-2008 06:32 AM

I can't decide between a pair of Karat 790DC speakers or a pair of Martin Logan Purity speakers. Help me decide. I can get a new pair of 790DC for half of retail brand new my cost. Martin Logan I will have to get used. I like the looks of the Martin Logan much better.....i know i know. I like huge speakers that stand out and look weird, not speakers that blend in. But I'm still leaning toward the Karat 790DC but can't find any reviews and Canton's website is TERRIBLE and lacks up close images... etc....english. So help me.

tedhontz 01-29-2008 06:36 AM

also does any know about the durability of Canton over ML? Seems to be alot of ML's for sale with rebuilt panels. Help me decide.

feds27 01-29-2008 10:16 AM

Hi Ted,

I saw the thread you started yesterday. I think the best way to decide is to give the two a listen. Photos, reviews, and specs only give part of the info that you need in deciding which to choose. I also suggest calling a dealer for each make. I called a Canton dealer (accessories4less) and they were very accommodating .

The Canton website is ok. You can select a language in the upper left hand corner and then search by model type if you like. If you look up docs you can find brochures and manuals. The manuals are a bit lacking, but honestly, how much can a manufacturer write about a speaker other than specs.

Read this review, in particular the build quality section, and you'll get a feel for what the build is like on these.
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/s...reference-2-dc

The build quality of the Karat's is amazing for a speaker in this price range. The fit and finish is on par or better than the Revel F50a's I previously owned and those were 4x the price.

Personally, I think electrostatics sound much different than traditional speakers. Some people don't like the way electrostatics sound. You probably shouldn't decide without listening to them first. I listened to some Magnepan 3.6 and I loved the way they sounded but they were in a controlled listened room. I was warned that electrostatics wouldn't work well in my space because of reflections. I have a listening space that is 700 sq. ft. with 13' high ceilings. Also, I think some electrostatics require higher power amps. I can't speak for the Purity, I haven't looked up their specs nor listened to them. One other thing to consider is the type of music you listen to.

tedhontz 01-29-2008 10:28 AM

that's my problem. I live in Fort Wayne, Indiana and no shop around herer carry any of these brands. We have the worst audio shops for a town this size. So, I'll be buying based only from recommendations and reviews. I bought my BG Radia Z7 speakers also without auditioning them. I could care less about bass since I have 2 high quality subwoofers but I would like an in your face mid and hi speaker with a warmer sound than my BG pair offers.

Please help me deside.

feds27 01-29-2008 11:08 AM

Try calling a dealer. They may be able to offer you free shipping, with free return should you not like the Karats or they may have a demo pair they can ship out for a test run.

You really should listen to electrostatics before deciding on them, they aren't for everyone. Maybe do a search on Martin Logan and post some questions about the Purity to that thread to get the ML owner's feedback. Check on the amp requirements, I'm pretty sure this can be an issue.

On this thread you'll mostly get responses on the Cantons.

feds27 01-29-2008 11:11 AM

By the way, my 703DC's came with a 5 year factory warranty. Make sure you're buying from an authorized dealer if warranty is important to you.

Miney 01-29-2008 01:54 PM

Nice to see a Canton "club" forming. Don't read much about them 'round these parts. Any room for a new member?

Last spring I got a great deal on a pair of Vento 802s for 2 channel music. I continue to be amazed at how good they are. I find them to be very detailed and crisp with a wonderful soundstage. And they're very easy on the eyes.

They went head to head with B&W 804s during the audition and compared very well, especially considering the cost differential. The only real gap was in terms of the lowest octave; I've since added a sub to bolster the bottom-end.

feds27 01-29-2008 04:04 PM

Hi Miney, Welcome to the club.

I'm running my Karats on a Marantz SR-8001 which is a very warm sounding receiver.

Curiosity has me wondering what other Canton owners are using to drive their speakers?

Miney 01-29-2008 04:26 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by feds27 View Post

Hi Miney, Welcome to the club.

I'm running my Karats on a Marantz SR-8001 which is a very warm sounding receiver.

Curiosity has me wondering what other Canton owners are using to drive their speakers?


Rotel RX-1052 here.

filcro1 02-26-2008 11:36 PM

Hi,

I'm looking to buy a pair of Canton CT 1000

Anyone know of anyone who is selling a pair?

Thank you,

Tony


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