Originally Posted by banyar
what is the difference between sierra 1 and sierra 2 for movies only?
someone who has the sierra 1 center can tell me how clear is for dialogues?
how you can compares the CBM-170se and CMT-340se with the sierras for movies only?
thanks in advance
I had the 170 as L/C/R for the last 14 years. Recently replaced them with Sierra 2's as L/C/R and for about a week had a Horizon for the center.
JMO, but I find the 170s and S2's to sound very similar. They are more alike than different. What you get with the S2 over the 170 is more nuance. There is more 'air' between sounds and things like the musical soundtrack (in a well mastered audio track) can seem to have a more ethereal presence- seeming to just float in the air somewhat divorced from the other dialogue and effects in the track. That's a cool aspect when it's evident, but it's not necessarily an 'in your face' difference most of the time. It more like just sneaks up on me and then suddenly I'm aware of it.
But the main tonalities of both speakers sound the same to my ears. Dialogue is similarly clear in both. Most sounds tend to image where they are supposed to given their location on screen, etc. A small % less distortion, faster transient response...all these things tend to lift a veil to get you closer to the source- but in the case of the 170, it's a very thin veil. Stepping up to the S2 was not like pulling off a thick blanket from the 170 "Oh NOW I can hear what it's supposed to sound like!"- not at all.
You ever see a Blu-ray that didn't seem that much different or better than the DVD version, but if you scrutinized each frame you would see where the improvements were? that's sort of how I feel about these two. The improvements are there, just not always readily manifest. Especially with the wide variety of movie soundtracks you'll encounter.
OTOH, the difference I heard between the S2 and the Horizon was primarily one of scale. Everything is already there and in place with the S2, but stepping up to the Horizon was like suddenly having the sound as large as my screen. It may be hard to understand without hearing for yourself, but it's not simply a matter of the Horizon being louder. I have seen others describe the difference as being akin to being in the fifth row at a concert (the S2s) and being in the front row (the Horizon). To me the sound just seems larger- and that in and of itself is a welcome aspect when you are pairing it with a large projection system. I never had any complaints before with either the 170 or S2 seeming 'small'. On the contrary they seemed to scale perfectly to a life sized sound.
The Horizon (and I'm hoping the Towers as well) was simply a larger than life sound.
That's my take.
Out of everything Ascend offers I still feel the CBM 170's are the best value proposition. I feel like with the others you are getting a strong product at a fair price. With the 170's, you are SERIOUSLY getting a Very good speaker at a bargain price.
Haven't heard the 340s or Sierra 1s.