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post #17401 of 17565 Old 07-10-2018, 11:53 AM
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Help with mounting JBL Studio 220's vertical (normal) or horizontal as front height speakers!!

I've purchased a couple of JBL Studio 220's as height speakers, but I can't get more than a 10 degree tilt on them when my main listening position is about 40 degrees down. Now I can drill some holes in those 220's and get the tilt I want, but I don't feel great about that.

It looks like the off-axis response is better horizontally than vertically on the 220's... anyone know what's the downside of positioning them horizontally would be? My seating positions are are within 10 degrees of center horizontally (3-seat couch 12-feet away), so I'm not too concerned about the smaller off axis range when the speaker is positioned horizontally.

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Is that because of the mount being used? I used Omnimount Mounts on some older JBL's and it worked great,not using them anymore since I swapped them out for SCS8's which come with their own bracket. Horizontal shouldn't be an issue,just have to decide if you want to tweeter on the inside or outside,which might make a little difference. Any way to hang them temporarily to decide would help.

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I have a pair of Studio 230s as front Heights at about 15 degrees tilt. The bracket does that without any drilling. Like you, I don't want to drill into my speaker enclosures. My MLP is about 9 feet back. I have no problem getting a good Audyssey calibration that sounds great to me. From ear level to speaker, you may not be off axis all that much. The ear level to the speaker is much different than floor to speaker. You might want to give it a try and see how it sounds.
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Is that because of the mount being used? I used Omnimount Mounts on some older JBL's and it worked great,not using them anymore since I swapped them out for SCS8's which come with their own bracket. Horizontal shouldn't be an issue,just have to decide if you want to tweeter on the inside or outside,which might make a little difference. Any way to hang them temporarily to decide would help.
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm trying to get these things up as soon as I can decide. Temporary may be a little tough due to two issues...

I currently have some Omnimount 25w's in the place where the 220's will go. To use them however I'd have to bore some holes into the 220 cabinets. I don't want to remove the Omnimounts until I'm sure I'm not going to use them... they got a 4-5 inch screw securing them into the stud, not sure they'll go back in as clean once they've been removed. They do give me unlimited range of positioning which is nice.

I've also got a pair of Videosecu clampers. They only pivot 10 degrees down at most. I'm most likely going to use some Velcro or blu-tac on them to keep them from slipping, with the risk of tearing off some of the cabinet surface if I have to remove the velcro.

Between the two issues, I'd just like to do it once between the risk. If horizontal orientation (good reminder on the tweeter location skypop) gives me a better vertical off-axis dispersion without any other negative side effects, it's probably my best option.

Thanks for the input (or any more you may have)!
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Thanks for the replies guys. I'm trying to get these things up as soon as I can decide. Temporary may be a little tough due to two issues...

I currently have some Omnimount 25w's in the place where the 220's will go. To use them however I'd have to bore some holes into the 220 cabinets. I don't want to remove the Omnimounts until I'm sure I'm not going to use them... they got a 4-5 inch screw securing them into the stud, not sure they'll go back in as clean once they've been removed. They do give me unlimited range of positioning which is nice.

I've also got a pair of Videosecu clampers. They only pivot 10 degrees down at most. I'm most likely going to use some Velcro or blu-tac on them to keep them from slipping, with the risk of tearing off some of the cabinet surface if I have to remove the velcro.

Between the two issues, I'd just like to do it once between the risk. If horizontal orientation (good reminder on the tweeter location skypop) gives me a better vertical off-axis dispersion without any other negative side effects, it's probably my best option.

Thanks for the input (or any more you may have)!
Unfortunately the only way to Really be sure is to put them up,either way should be good though. The good thing about horizontal mounting them is that you can probably try them with the tweeter on the inside or outside,just a matter of listening and swapping the speakers.

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So I'm pretty settled on the JBL 5 series.

My question is should I grab the 580's at $379 each or wait for the 590's at $499?

I have a decent subwoofer, so would I notice any significant difference between the two if I crossed them at 60hz?

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So I'm pretty settled on the JBL 5 series.

My question is should I grab the 580's at $379 each or wait for the 590's at $499?

I have a decent subwoofer, so would I notice any significant difference between the two if I crossed them at 60hz?
That would totally depend on room size,type of music,how loud you listen,can you position them properly,and the quality of your Sub.

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That would totally depend on room size,type of music,how loud you listen,can you position them properly,and the quality of your Sub.
*crack knuckles*

Room size 16x14x7.5
Positioning: one on each side of my 75” LG tv, possibly raised 24” off the floor to match the top of the speakers to the top of my tv. Up to 12” off the wall. Ill be sitting about 5-7 feet away in my recliner.

Type of music: fairly wide variety, lots of 70’s-early 90’s rock and pop, 90’s and newer country and classical piano/new age enya type music.

Listening volume: usually -30/-45 on my yamaha reciever. Occasionally get to crank it to 0 or a little better.

Sub quality: Infinity PSW310W originally $800 (I paid $200 new) 10” CMMD Woofer with matching dual 10” passive radiators. 400 watts rms 700 watts peak. -3db 31hz
Doesn’t play nearly as deep as SVS and the like, but it plays super tight and with great accuracy and tone. Id say its pretty darn amazing above 30hz.

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*crack knuckles*

Room size 16x14x7.5
Positioning: one on each side of my 75” LG tv, possibly raised 24” off the floor to match the top of the speakers to the top of my tv. Up to 12” off the wall. Ill be sitting about 5-7 feet away in my recliner.

Type of music: fairly wide variety, lots of 70’s-early 90’s rock and pop, 90’s and newer country and classical piano/new age enya type music.

Listening volume: usually -30/-45 on my yamaha reciever. Occasionally get to crank it to 0 or a little better.

Sub quality: Infinity PSW310W originally $800 (I paid $200 new) 10” CMMD Woofer with matching dual 10” passive radiators. 400 watts rms 700 watts peak. -3db 31hz
Doesn’t play nearly as deep as SVS and the like, but it plays super tight and with great accuracy and tone. Id say its pretty darn amazing above 30hz.
I'd get the 590's,they don't need a stand but neither do the 580's. Hopefully that's 12" to the back of the Speaker otherwise the imageing and bass will be not what they could be. Bass is subjective but with the 590's you're going to have plenty of bass sitting that close to the wall.

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I have 590s and couldn't be happier. So I would recommend the 590s. If you are anything like a lot of us, if you get the 580s, you will always have the same thought lurking around about wondering if you made a mistake and should have bought the 590s. I have never regretted buying too good of a tool.

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Just pulled the trigger on the JBL 580’s!

I’ve had a pair of monstrous speakers before which I loved but they ended up too big to place anywhere in my home at the time.
I think I would rather have a bit more flexibility in placement this time.
I think I’ll be thrilled with them as my current bookshelves get nearly loud enough now, I’m pretty sure these will make me a happy man for a while.

Thanks everyone for your input!

I’ll reporti on them when I get them, it’s gonna be a long week!

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JBL 590’s just dropped to $500 each

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Verga, I live in San Francisco maybe we can get together for some noise. Drop me a note and will see if it can happen



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Hello all. As a prospective owner of the studio 230 and 235c, I've been reading all about these speakers and I think they'll be a good choice for me; I'm very excited! The question is when to buy them. I see on JBL's website they are currently on sale (same at Amazon) and since I haven't been watching them until now, I don't know if $299 is the regular price or is that the sale price that everyone keeps mentioning that occurs a few times a year?

Thanks for your help!
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Hello all. As a prospective owner of the studio 230 and 235c, I've been reading all about these speakers and I think they'll be a good choice for me; I'm very excited! The question is when to buy them. I see on JBL's website they are currently on sale (same at Amazon) and since I haven't been watching them until now, I don't know if $299 is the regular price or is that the sale price that everyone keeps mentioning that occurs a few times a year?

Thanks for your help!

When I bought my 235c it was $249.95, and I believe that is what it is going for on Amazon right now.

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Quick question: Has anyone tried running 3x Arena 125Cs as LCRs? Wondering how well these would do, as opposed to just the traditional center channel.

This would be for nearly 100% HT use.
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I am an old geezer (70) and I bought two JBL L-110 speakers back in 1980. I have had them repaired/serviced about 5 years ago and they still sound great. I'm not sure exactly where they fall as far as the type of sound systems that are available. When I bought them, Stereo was in. I had a JVC Integrated Amplifier with 40 WPC. They are very efficient and they sound wonderful. My problem is, what is the best way to use them. I now have a 7.2.4 AV Receiver and I have some older Klipsch Forte II speakers that too, sound great. Right now I am using the Klipsch speakers for the front and the JBL speakers for the surround. I don't know that a recommendation can be made with the little bit of information I have given. I have a JBL Northridge E Series E250P Subwoofer, Polk Audio In-Wall speakers for the Front and Rear Presence Speakers or ATMOS for some, and some Polk Audio speakers for the Rear Surround. With that, can you make any recommendations? Thanks. I like to read this site.
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Heads up!

New JBL speaker series.

Looks to be a replacement to the Arena series, no pricing yet. The JBL.com site has listings but they’re shown as out of stock.

Link to brochure, attachments are screenshots of it in case the link stops working.
https://www.jbl.com/on/demandware.st...et_English.pdf
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Happy with JBL speakers? I won’t lie I was surprised they were so highly recommended. They were popular back when I was younger but I didn’t think they were still relevant. I am looking for either floorstanding or bookshelf speakers and a center. Any recommendations?
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Heads up!

New JBL speaker series.

Looks to be a replacement to the Arena series, no pricing yet. The JBL.com site has listings but they’re shown as out of stock.

Link to brochure, attachments are screenshots of it in case the link stops working.
https://www.jbl.com/on/demandware.st...et_English.pdf

man, sux they dumped the compression tweets......
thats what makes the 5 series
how are you liking the 580s ?
im close to pulling the trigger on a pair.
got the low end covered with an svs pb-4000, just wonder if i should wait on the 590s to go on sale again
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man, sux they dumped the compression tweets......
thats what makes the 5 series
how are you liking the 580s ?
im close to pulling the trigger on a pair.
got the low end covered with an svs pb-4000, just wonder if i should wait on the 590s to go on sale again
I dont think these are replacing the 5 series, just the bottom rung Arena series.

Very much enjoying the 580’s. Haven't had time for any serious listening lately, but happy enough for the money to be sure.
Frankly if the difference between my $450 Infinity R162’s and the 580’s is all the difference im going to hear by jumping to $3-4k speakers im think im gonna stand pat with my 580’s

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With that, can you make any recommendations? Thanks. I like to read this site.

With the mish-mash of speakers that you have you will never get a seamless soundfield. However, I believe that any modern, mid-level, Surround-sound Receiver would be able to smooth out their disparities and make the group sound impressive in your home.



This appears to me to be the most effective, cost-efficient solution for you.
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I am an old geezer (70) and I bought two JBL L-110 speakers back in 1980. I have had them repaired/serviced about 5 years ago and they still sound great. I'm not sure exactly where they fall as far as the type of sound systems that are available. When I bought them, Stereo was in. I had a JVC Integrated Amplifier with 40 WPC. They are very efficient and they sound wonderful. My problem is, what is the best way to use them. I now have a 7.2.4 AV Receiver and I have some older Klipsch Forte II speakers that too, sound great. Right now I am using the Klipsch speakers for the front and the JBL speakers for the surround. I don't know that a recommendation can be made with the little bit of information I have given. I have a JBL Northridge E Series E250P Subwoofer, Polk Audio In-Wall speakers for the Front and Rear Presence Speakers or ATMOS for some, and some Polk Audio speakers for the Rear Surround. With that, can you make any recommendations? Thanks. I like to read this site.
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With the mish-mash of speakers that you have you will never get a seamless soundfield. However, I believe that any modern, mid-level, Surround-sound Receiver would be able to smooth out their disparities and make the group sound impressive in your home.



This appears to me to be the most effective, cost-efficient solution for you.
jdhelaman, you are, remarkably, an older geezer than I am, but not by much! My first "real" speakers were JBL L100s, and I still have them to this day, set up as a stereo pair. There are some recordings from the 60s and 70s that only sound right when I hear them through the L100s, as I did repetitiously in high school and college. Like my L100s, your L110s were built to last, and your L110s are arguably an improvement over them.

In my first forays into a surround system, the L100s were the front mains as I added JBL (and other) speakers to them to get that neat-o Dolby surround sound. My first attempts were mongrel-like mixed breeds, and like a good mongrel dog, I loved them because they were mine.

Once higher quality surround receivers and better surround codecs came along, I cobbled together an all-JBL speaker collection of used L7, L5, and L3 speakers. I found having all the speakers from the same brand and family within that brand really upped the quality of the experience! It was a surprising and satisfying improvement.

A few years later, I lucked into an amazing deal on a JBL Performance Series 5.1 system, which really upped the surround experience to have all the speakers intended and designed to be matched to each other in a surround system. Any surround set up I've had since always consisted of JBLs that were meant to be together. It's hard to imagine going back to a mixed bag of speakers.

Nonetheless, Fitero makes a really good point. Today's surround receivers are much improved and have far greater capabilities than the previous generations. A good one can do a reasonable job of integrating what you have into a more coherent package, and it will definitely be your most cost-effective approach.

Without knowing the acuity of your hearing, it could be a fool's errand to spend time and money trying to get all timbre-matched speakers if you can't really distinguish between them. Your current set might be all you need. I decided that my current JBL system will be my last as my hearing slowly declines, and I need to keep my spending under control in retirement.

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Is it my poor abilities at Google, or are there virtually zero professional reviews of the JBL Studio line?
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Is it my poor abilities at Google, or are there virtually zero professional reviews of the JBL Studio line?
https://www.avhub.com.au/product-rev...nd-test-395529 or direct link to the pdf is below. And there is a separate

http://i.nextmedia.com.au/avhub/aust...ers-review.pdf

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/89-sp...uaranteed.html

Someone might know of other reviews in the 5 series section.

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Is it my poor abilities at Google, or are there virtually zero professional reviews of the JBL Studio line?
Another link for the lower end of the studio line
https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...speaker-system

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Jbl100

I am new to this part of the Forums. I have an opportunity to purchase a pair of JBL G -100's for $25. is this worth the $? or should I pass. these are not going to be Mains. For fun I will set them up once in a while to listen to music. I understand they are the Lower priced Bookshelf speakers in the G- Line. but are they worth the $25? thanks for your help.
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3722N Tuning

I am planning to deploy 3 X 3722N as LCR.
Does anyone has the 3722N tuning parameters that I can set in the DSP?

The spec sheet only mention crossover at 1300hz.

Thanks for any pointers
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I am planning to deploy 3 X 3722N as LCR.
Does anyone has the 3722N tuning parameters that I can set in the DSP?

The spec sheet only mention crossover at 1300hz.

Thanks for any pointers
You might want to ask your question here since you're not getting any response:

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Is anyone here rocking an S-center? If so, what are your fronts and how do you like it?
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Is anyone here rocking an S-center? If so, what are your fronts and how do you like it?
I had a ScenterII for years. I thought it was great. At times I thought it even sounded as good as the LC2. I ended up giving the ScenterII away to a friend along with some S310II's, S38II's and even a S120PII. I still own a pair of S26II's and S412PII's

As for fronts I bounced between the S38II's and S310II's. Both blended very well with the ScenterII.
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STUDIO 8 SERIES

https://img.itw01.com/images/2018/03...eg!r1024x0.jpg

Looks like we may be getting a new Studio line. Not sure if they're replacing the Studio 2 or 5 series. Or if they're even coming to the USA lol
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