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post #17491 of 17532 Old 02-15-2019, 07:20 PM
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I have the JBL EC35 center currently and was thinking of getting a pair of Studio L890's soon. Do you guys think the EC35 will be able to timber match the Studio L's? or would I need to get a LC1/LC2 to match them?
There's no law against using the EC35 for a while and see how you like the match. Most decent processor auto-setup software will get you a pretty decent match. I wouldn't touch the LC1, a big step down from the EC35.
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There's no law against using the EC35 for a while and see how you like the match. Most decent processor auto-setup software will get you a pretty decent match. I wouldn't touch the LC1, a big step down from the EC35.
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How good/bad are LX44s

Hi

Have an old pair of JBL LX44s that need refoaming (I presume the lack of foam is what causes the rattle in the bass heard in low volume). seems like only about $25 to do so. But i was curious how much one would to spend to get new speakers (JBL or not) with comparable or better sound. Various sites where folks like these speakers but not clear they have heard much else. Similarly, I like them but then haven't heard others in my room which is 23 x 24ft. I guess this is really a question of the tradeoff between inflation and technological advancement. thanks
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JBL Studio

Has anyone actually auditioned, or know much about, JBL Studio home audio speakers? It seems from time to time they have good deals on these speakers (everything from towers to subs), and it seems like from their product pages, that these speakers are well made, with quality components. I have not see a lot of reviews though online of the JBL Studios. I'm thinking JBL is more of an audiophile speaker (?), since JBL speakers are used in commercial movie theaters

How do these compare to Elac's? It seems like the JBL Studio series is comparable to the Elac Debut 2.0 series
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Has anyone actually auditioned, or know much about, JBL Studio home audio speakers? It seems from time to time they have good deals on these speakers (everything from towers to subs), and it seems like from their product pages, that these speakers are well made, with quality components. I have not see a lot of reviews though online of the JBL Studios. I'm thinking JBL is more of an audiophile speaker (?), since JBL speakers are used in commercial movie theaters



How do these compare to Elac's? It seems like the JBL Studio series is comparable to the Elac Debut 2.0 series
I assume you mean the CURRENT line of JBL Studio speakers? The reason I ask is JBL will roll out a new "Studio" line every few years and they may/may not have similar specs as the previous line.

Also, if you want the best feedback on comparison of different brands, you might want to list the specific models you are interested in knowing about.

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I was mainly looking at the JBL Studio 270, 280, 290's towers, 235c center, and 210 surrounds
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I was mainly looking at the JBL Studio 270, 280, 290's towers, 235c center, and 210 surrounds
That line is considered pretty capable, as far as I recall. I enjoyed the Studio 230s I had for a short time as PC speakers. Also listened to a few 235c/280 demos with music at a local store and watched way more of the movie than I intended.

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The addiction continues, I just picked up some more JBL speakers for my garage / shop. I want to use the E90s out there to replace the two S center speakers I had. I know the S center is of a higher line than the Northridge E, I just wanted the bigger more full size of some big towers.

I am surprised at how much more I like the S centers in all but bass. Which makes me wonder, any reason why I can't pull the s center mid, tweeter and crossover out of the cabinet and swap it with the e90s setup? Seems like that would be the best of both worlds and give me some "S90" speakers, if such a tower ever existed.

Let me know your thoughts!
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Need some help pricing some used JBL's.
I'm moving into an apartment and I'm not really sure I need to take these with me.

I have 2x JBL L890's
2x JBL L820's
2X JBL L8400p's
1x JBL LC2

Also I'm located in the Raleigh, NC area if anyone is interested.
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Need some help pricing some used JBL's.

I'm moving into an apartment and I'm not really sure I need to take these with me.



I have 2x JBL L890's

2x JBL L820's

2X JBL L8400p's

1x JBL LC2



Also I'm located in the Raleigh, NC area if anyone is interested.
That is a solid setup there. I have the L890's and LC2 in my setup and LOVE them. I think they are some of the best speakers JBL made, especially for their size and versatility.

If I were you, I would wait to see if they will work in your new apartment, then decide if you want to sell them.

If you find that you have to let them go, please PM me. I don't "need" them. But they are getting scarce and I would give them good home with their 'cousins'

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Need some help pricing some used JBL's.
I'm moving into an apartment and I'm not really sure I need to take these with me.

I have 2x JBL L890's
2x JBL L820's
2X JBL L8400p's
1x JBL LC2

Also I'm located in the Raleigh, NC area if anyone is interested.
That set up is hard to beat for the money. If you're planning to spend a few grand to get some new gear that'll top them, by all means do so. But that system "in the hand" might be better than a more expensive one "in the bush."

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Gang, so I just got my gifts today, JBL Studio 590's and 520C and 550P, and I can relate to a lot of you whose spouses gave you a nasty stare, I am no exception.

Now the question, has anyone stacked these towers on top of JBL550P subwoofer? I can find a way to do that, but was wondering if its ok to do so. This setup would tuck back the towers and woofer into the TV closet, yes, the alcove of older homes. I may not get real Atmos but got to keep wife happy before she forces me to return it,

Anyone?

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Gang, so I just got my gifts today, JBL Studio 590's and 520C and 550P, and I can relate to a lot of you whose spouses gave you a nasty stare, I am no exception.



Now the question, has anyone stacked these towers on top of JBL550P subwoofer? I can find a way to do that, but was wondering if its ok to do so. This setup would tuck back the towers and woofer into the TV closet, yes, the alcove of older homes. I may not get real Atmos but got to keep wife happy before she forces me to return it,



Anyone?
I have not tried that (mainly because I don't have those speakers). But had a pair of JBL S310's on top of JBL sub.

Did not like it for 2 reasons:
1) Elevated the towers too high beyond listening height.
2) Vibration of the sub to the towers was a concern.

If the stacked height is good. And there is a concern about transferring vibration, install the metal foot isolation spikes into the 590's and get some kind of thick, solid rubber to put between the towers and sub.

Rubber like a horse stall mat
https://www.farmandfleet.com/product...BoC6VcQAvD_BwE

The spikes provide isolation, the rubber will stop some transfer, but mainly serve to provide a solid, non-slip surface for the spikes to set onto.

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Thank you, I ordered neoprene sound and vibration isolation pads, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078N92Q9S

These are supposedly good for good reviews and it glue to one, so I can glue to the Sub, then put tower on top, Height would be quite tall now but would still be better than current setup where all speakers are ceiling speakers, which I want to turn to Atmos. Once setup, I will post picture.

Or another alternate would be to get a custom cabinet that can house two subs one on ea side,

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I was mainly looking at the JBL Studio 270, 280, 290's towers, 235c center, and 210 surrounds
Right now {while supplies last} you could grab Studio 580’s or 590’s for LR. 520c for center channel. 230’s (refurbs) for surrounds and rears and 210’s for surrounds or rears. I just did 580’s (I’m size limited), 520c, 230’s for surrounds and rears and got the 210’s for Atmos. The 210 has dual ports firing to the sides so they are perfect for wall mount or ceiling mount for Atmos. There is a Studio 5 series thread on here and it’s quite long. There are some who bought 590’s for all 7 channels of their 7.1 system. Laying one of the 590’s down horizontally for their center. Lots of information in there. IF you are interested do it now. Scuttlebutt says JBL is getting out of this middle tier speaker section. Going to pour their money into cheap stuff, all in the box, and the high end will always continue.
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I haven't tried the Arenas, but the 235c works well with my 590 fronts and 230 overheads. Don't do what I first did and buy a cheaper center, and end up buying the 235c a year later because the lesser center just didn't cut it.
I'm looking at potentially the opposite: I have Studio 280s arriving tomorrow to be my first real L/R speakers supplementing an Onkyo HTIB from a dozen years ago, and I see the 520C available cheaper than the 225C or 235C (which is sold out everywhere I look). Do I want a 6ohm cheaper 5 series center or a 225C right now for more, or wait for a 235C to become available?
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I'm looking at potentially the opposite: I have Studio 280s arriving tomorrow to be my first real L/R speakers supplementing an Onkyo HTIB from a dozen years ago, and I see the 520C available cheaper than the 225C or 235C (which is sold out everywhere I look). Do I want a 6ohm cheaper 5 series center or a 225C right now for more, or wait for a 235C to become available?
The 225C has a 4" driver and the 235C a 6.5" driver. If you watch a lot of movies, then you know that vocals and sounds, on screen, will come through the center. The 235C will make a big difference for movies. On the other hand, music mostly comes through the LF and RF, so the difference may not be so noticeable. This is all subjective as to what your ears hear and what makes you happy.

However, I will repeat what I said previously, don't buy a cheaper speaker just to replace it in the future because it just didn't do the job.

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New JBL owner here. Been waiting a long time to get a nice set of towers and center. After a lot of waiting I found the studio 235C refurbished on newegg for $99 shipped. It showed up and looked brand new. Then they had the Studio 290's for $199/each shipped so I picked those up. Loving this set, sounds amazing and is a big upgrade from my Energy CB-10 bookshelves and CC-10 Center.

What I am wondering now is if I should upgrade the power. They are running off a Denon X1400h at 80 watts per channel. Reviews said they love power so may be looking for more power. I found a Behringer 2 channel amp, 200 watts x 2 at 8ohms just not sure if it is worth it.

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Fronts: JBL Studio 290's
Center: JBL Studio 235c
Sides: Polk OWM3's
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Tacticle: 2x Dayton shakers running off yamaha amp.
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Congrats on your new L-C-R. Why no power boost for the 235C?

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Don't let surround replacement scare you. Just takes a little patience. Shipping good JBL's can be expensive due to the weight. A repair kit is not expensive also. There are good videos on how to replace surrounds as well as whole cones with voice coils. My 18 inch JBL took a little time to do nicely but it is good now. Same as my 10 and 15 inch JBL drivers. I've had these drivers in periods of heavy and other periods on no use since the mid 1970's. I never had the urge to send out magnets (alnico) for re-magnetizing though.At one time or another they have all been refoamed on my dining room cable.

The "paper" in JBL cones is quite sturdy and not easily damaged during "scrape off" of the old foam to prepare for gluing the new foam. Just use the blade of a sharp knife and scrape, do not cut the old foam to clean that speaker outer rim of old foam, scrape it off. You do need access to the back of the speaker through the openings of the frame to do this cleaning and especially for regluing but not that tough. Don’t pull the cone forward a lot to access the rear since you could damage the spyder or voice coil. Usually repair kits for larger drivers provide a shim to set the magnet voice coil gap which requires cutting off the center dome for access and re-gluing a new one. I would feel a lot more confident doing it myself than shipping them somewhere that you never heard of or have reviews on. No big deal doing that either. Good JBL drivers are well worth repair and not difficult to fix. Try to get OEM surrounds if possible but any will work for a pr of surrounds. If the price is too cheap, the quality may be also cheap. For some larger bass drivers
( 15 to 18 inch), the resistance of the foam could alter the port tune if not OEM or close to OEM in rigidity. We are talking about impacting free air resonances of 16 to 20 cps not that found in the speakers you are working with so I doubt it is critical. Nothing major but it could alter the free air resonance frequency. There was small shop in Pittsburgh, Pa area that changed surrounds and re-coned speaker drivers but I doubt that he is not yet long retired. These days everything is considered throw-away so best to repair them yourself. Not hard at all. Gluing on the front is not as pretty as on the rear of the cone but does work. If the rear is just horribly inaccessible, it may actually be at least properly glued if on the front. The advantage of gluing to the rear is that you can better see alignment of the foam to the cone. Check youtube for some films on refoaming and reconing speakers.

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do jbl 230s and 235 accept banana plugs?


i wanted to install banana plugs just now but theres a plastic piece on top of each speaker terminal. am i supposed to force that piece off?
manual says nothing
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do jbl 230s and 235 accept banana plugs?


i wanted to install banana plugs just now but theres a plastic piece on top of each speaker terminal. am i supposed to force that piece off?
manual says nothing
You fully unscrew the gold terminal cap and you can remove the plastic plug. Screw the caps back down tight, then insert your banana plugs.

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I got some banana plugs on Ebay that are great. Fit real tight into the jacks. I also have all jbls in my system except for 4 6 inch atmos coaxes in ceiling (Klipsch). I got an 8 pack to try them then added a 24 pack . You can get up to 12 speakers needing plugs real quick! and if needed also for the amp end, 24 is only 6 speakers worth.
24 Nakamichi BFA Banana Plug Audio Connector 24K N0534E USA Design & Shipping or
on ebay 8 for 4 speakers. The 24 pack is on the sellers store site and the 8 pack on ebay from this seller .
Only problem is that the tiny screws that hold the wire into the plug are tough to start due to size. All jacks are like that are pretty much that way though. Seller is Chanler.Young and is usa based. Good delivery and fantastic product. I have gotten a lot of banana plugs that were either not tight or were locking type and were very difficult to screw the lock on the plug with one hand while holding the end of the plug with the other hand.. These plugs make a great contact. Pinned thpe connectors break easily and the screw down plugs onto u connectors come loose too easily. Since the outer part was metal I did cover it once installed on my wire with red and black shrink fit tubing just to be a little cautious. Probably should not be unplugging and plugging with the amp on anyway but I do it often

I have all home cabinet built JBL speakers other than two side surrounds that are high on the wall and are . I still use the side surrounds I guilt using JBL commpression drivers that match the L-300 s in the rear and the 4143 front JBL monitors(biamped). Center is similar to the two floor side surrounds and uses the same midrange compression driver and 12 inch cone JBLdriver

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Question JBL Arena61c

Hi,

i am planing to buy Jbl Arena 61c Ceiling speaker, any i didn't find any review. Building new house and have 12 ceiling speaker connection throughout house.
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i am planing to buy Jbl Arena 61c Ceiling speaker, any i didn't find any review. Building new house and have 12 ceiling speaker connection throughout house.
I'd read any reviews on the Arena series to get an idea of the tonal qualities, etc. I have seen others mention going with these and the 8" models for Atmos speakers.

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@12voltb

Sounds like a great score, my man. Hope you enjoy them. I'm jealous that you scored so many good speakers in excellent condition in short order. But I guess I can just fire up my system and feel good about it, ha. As far as parts, I don't know exactly where you could get them. Maybe eBay. I sold spare woofers on there before and cross things like that from time to time. But take care of them, avoid needing parts, haha.

Are you going to being posting pictures from a phone or PC?


So updated, I now own 4 jbl s38 version II silver cone woofers, which they were the orange ones but will have to do for now. I have the s-center and pair of s26's. They sounds really good to me. Little warm compared to the s26 orange cones which are 6 1/2 bookshelf that are my rears for my 7.1 setup. Little eq got everything dialed in.. in my avr I have everything set to small. Crossed over at 60 hz sounds really good. I use 3 sub woofers in my setup. Have calibrated and matched everything with a dayton audio umm-6 using REW room eq wizard. Have done lots of reading since i first got everything. Am I pro? no way! Do i know enough info now to be dangerous? You bet lol. Thanks for all the help on everything guys. Hoping to find the jbl L820's and JBL Center for those. Forget the model number. Someone in the forums here has them. JEALOUS> Wish JbL made stuff like they used too. Peace out for now guys.
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Thinking about buying some JBL Arena 180s for our general-use living room where volume and 'fun to listen to' is king. I assume they would be comparable, or possibly even a small step up, from the Jamo S809s I have there now. Interesting to see how Harman is handling the JBL and Infinity brands.
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JBL speaker sale

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Where's the sale on the JBL in ceiling speakers? lol

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I currently have an audio system with

L890
L820
LC2
Subwoofer SVS PB2000


and I am thinking of doing an update to the room by entering 4 speakers atmos on the wall and I have thought about this series.

https://www.svsound.com/products/prime-elevation

Any recommendation?
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