I'm really not quite sure about the low resale value of the Sierra. I mean, have you ever seen one on sale? Any Ascend for that matter. Price is basically dictated by demand and offer. Ascend seems to be having trouble keeping up with the demand so there must be some demand for them. But there's hardly any used Ascend on sale anywhere. Extremely rare. So I'm guessing that if you had to sell a pair of them, you'd have absolutely no trouble finding a buyer.
What I meant earlier was that if you buy a pair of used Arros for 750$, then you might be able to resell them 750$ also. Who knows how many times they've passed hands, some mention it, others not. If you buy new though, not sure how much you could get for them when there's some selling for 700$... Many Totems on sale, resale price goes down.
I think Sierra is a new hot item. It's the new Ascend speaker. Maybe in 5 years they won't be so hot, but today I doubt you'd have trouble selling them for a good price. On 1200$ Arros, sell 700$, that's 500$ loss... For Ascend, they're like 900$, that would be selling them for 400$ lol. What would be the sale price for Sierra PB? 750? 700? 600?
The mids, though accurate, seem recessed, dry, sterile, or some such thing like that.
lol Yeah I guess that's the thing. If you want speakers which brings the mids forward or something like that, or add lushness, they might not be the best choice. I don't think the Sierra mids are recessed. But when compared to some Totems or other speakers... Maybe... But imho, it's all somewhat conflicting. If it's accurate, then it's not recessed, it's not dry nor sterile... Unless the recording is, but then that's a recording flaw, not the speaker.
That's the thing with Totems, they all have their own signature sound, sometimes they sound great, other times they sound average, other times they sound poor.
Not sure where you've heard that the Sierra bass makes their mids suffer. But let me just point out that the same thing would apply to Totems. Arros use 4.5 inch woofers to go down to 40hz according to Totem. And actually, size wise, I think internal volume of Arros would be quite close compared to Sierra... 33.5 x 5.1 x 7.1" vs 14.25" x 7.5" x 10.5", 1213 cu.in. vs 1122... Arro is just built upwards, Sierra is wider and deeper, but looking at cabinet size, not that different internal volume. Though 5.5 inch woofers vs 4.5 inch...
The Model1 have a very small cabinet, and the port tune is very similar to Sierra, like 40ish hz I think. I'm no speaker designer, but I think larger internal volume helps for bass extension. So in both case, my rather uneducated guess would be that the Sierra would have an easier time than the Totems. vs Arro similar internal volume & port tuning but 5.5 inch woofer vs 4.5 for Arros. And vs Model1, quite a bit bigger box.
Another difference is that the Sierra have an inert bamboo cabinet, while Totem just normal 3/4 inch cabinet... And brorosillicate if you're to believe them, but they're also selling BS snake oil power bars, so... so much for their credibility.
Back to mids:http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazin...wans_d21se.htm
Beyond that, however, the two speakers are very different. The Swans had the Sierra beat on bass extension, but lag behind them in bass tightness and control. This continued, to a degree, up into the midrange: the Sierra's mids are crisp and detailed while the Swans' are plummy and romantic. The opposite is true for the highs, where the Sierra is natural & uncolored, but the Swans slightly spitty treble continued to pull subtle details out of my recordings that the musicians, I expect, would have rather kept hidden.
This part is similar to what I was trying to say for Totem vs 'accurate':
When it came to simple listening enjoyment, which speaker I preferred varied from recording to recording. On Saudades by Trio Beyond [ECM, 2006]; Jack DeJohnette, Larry Goldings, and John Scofield's modern tribute to Lifetime (Tony Williams' fiery late '60s power trio); the Sierra brought a little more edgy grit out of Scofield's guitar tone, while the Swans made more seductive listening out of the proceedings. Winner: the Sierra-1. Lush & seductive can be nice, but it doesn't work for everything. In this case, the Sierra's presentation held me on the edge of my seat more effectively.
So probably similar vs Totem. Me, I was more annoyed than anything when Totem music altering characteristics made me listen to the Totem speakers flaws instead of the music. I want speakers to be as invisible as possible; just play the music like on the recording; not modify it to add it's own color. If you always want the same thing, ex; more lush mids or whatever, and found exactly what you want with the Totems, that's great, but for me, forget that, just show me what's on the recording, and Ascend does it in a more accurate fashion (FR/presentation wise; bass, mids, treble balance).
Anyhow, imho, Sierra doesn't really have any mid problems. Quite the opposite. Maybe an ever so slight recess, not impossible, but imho it's really insignificant if it's there. Never really noticed anything about it... Mids are pretty much spot on imho. But I'll keep listening and report if I find anything. Reading some old reviews... Didn't see anything about it...http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazin...c_sierra_1.htm
I'm not sure how to describe a midrange that isn't there. I don't mean recessed, I mean completely transparent. The Sierra has no "sound" in the mids…midrange-dominant instruments (and that would be pretty much all of them: piano, guitar, horns, stings, the human voice, etc.) are presented with a compelling allure simply because they sound like instruments. Transient articulation is fast and controlled, and dynamics are astounding for such a small speaker.
Supporting the high end is a neutral mid-range that
has little distinguishable character of its own. You
could say – it just is. The Sierra 1’s mid-range is
extremely quick, detailed and clean. It is so clean
that it may take some listeners time to adjust to this
type of sound.
Anyhow, Arro, Sttaf, Model1, Hawks, Sierra, like their sound go for it
Sierra are a bargain for their performance, but used Totem is good too. 'Best' would be a toss up depending on listener...
I'd have to know if I could live with the "Sierra" flaws, and I want a nice solid midrange more so than deep bass.
Yeah nice solid midrange... but imho much less flaws than Arros/Sttafs. MUCH more complete speaker than either. IMHO, closer to Hawks in terms of complete speaker package.