Originally Posted by BigAl87
True, the M1S would be smoother in fact than the Focus 160 I think, Difference is clear when you compare Focus and Excites in the Dyn lineup. Elements are the edgiest Totems according to Vince and the are indeed not as round but I love both my Sigs and My Fires and lived long enough with both to know the Forest and Signature do sound rounder than the Elements..
So I went down to my dealer and finally got to hear the Fires, Metals, and Forest Sigs, with my music. The Elements all sounded like they were missing the highs that i like so much with the other metal tweeter offerings. While the Fires did have some of the best sustain I've heard on any speaker (piano on Tori Amos' "Boys for Pele"), the highs and detail just weren't there, and were kind of muffled sounding. That said, the salesman did say that they were new, as they recently sold the previous demo pair. However not wanting to take a $6k + gamble (I'm sure they'd open up after ~100 hours, like the Rains, but then what would they sound like) I decided to try and make my own budget Fire/Metal hybrid (Fire floorstander), with drivers from my old car setup: Canton AT-25 tweeters, and MB Quart RWC 200 "mid-bass" (love these, car or home)...also have a pair of 8" JL woofers to add if need be. Not the same as the Quarts, but at least it would get me some more low end.
Surprising how closely they resemble the Element drivers:
I had planned on building cabinets from scratch, but why reinvent the wheel, when pre-fab is available (and I only have a week of vacation):
Given these will only be for watching TV, I probably won't want to spend more than the $138 for the cabinets, and $10 for the binding posts that I've put in. I was listening last night, with my receiver driving the Rain maker's tweeters, and another wire run to the Quarts, with my deck lid on the floor between the Rains, and I was actually happy with the sound. I tried running just the Rains as "mains", but can't get them close enough to the wall (3ft at best) to get enough bass out of them.
I did find a place that sells SEAS tweeters, from $40 - $1000, so if the bottom end turns out well, but the tweeter doesn't match, I'm sure I'll be upgrading later.