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post #10021 of 10061 Old 01-31-2019, 11:39 PM
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I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas!

I was fortunate to have received a set of IsoAcoustics GAIA II that I installed under my Song 3 BeAT's.... I cannot express properly what these have done to these already incredible speakers. The clarity,detail, soundstage, and bass response improved drastically!!!!

BeAT's + GAIA II =😂😂😂😂
Do the BeATs need Gaia II or would the III work?
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Do the BeATs need Gaia II or would the III work?
I just went according to the specs. The BeAT's list at 72 lbs and the III' state up to 70 lbs so personally, I went with the II's, but it is a $200 difference for the 2 lbs.

They are amazing though!

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I just went according to the specs. The BeAT's list at 72 lbs and the III' state up to 70 lbs so personally, I went with the II's, but it is a $200 difference for the 2 lbs.

They are amazing though!

http://www.isoacoustics.com/products...series/gaia-i/


Watch the video demo on above link from IsoAcoustics RMAF 2018
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You could always contact IsoAcoustics and ask, but I'm guessing they push you to the II's. I installed the Gaia III's on my regular Song3's a couple weeks ago. The Song3's are two inches shorter than the 3-A's and weigh a touch less. Not sure if the II's would perform better but I'm blown away by how much these improved the sound. I thought I'd try them and return them if they didn't work, but like everyone else has said that's tried them -- they work!

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We just completed the first pair of SS 9.5's and are doing extensive listening tests before signing off on the design.

No details yet, but here are some pictures...

More info to come in about a week or so. Stay tuned...

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Drop-dead gorgeous, though the "faces" in the sides are a little scary...

I have some pretty good speakers, but am willing to sacrifice a little time and effort by participating in the extensive listening trials just to help out. Ship me a pair and I'll let you know what I think.

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Folks, saw a great deal for a pair of Songtower QWT and associated Songcenter. May I ask if they are still relevant in today’s context? For HT and 2ch?
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Folks, saw a great deal for a pair of Songtower QWT and associated Songcenter. May I ask if they are still relevant in today’s context? For HT and 2ch?
The SongTowers received an Editor's Choice Award from The Absolute Sound seven years in a row. It is still just as good as the day it was introduced, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a speaker in its price range that could out-perform it.

We always try to find drivers that will allow us to set a new level of performance at a given price point. While the drivers in the SongTowers are very good, the sum total of those drivers, a transmission line cabinet and an excellent Dennis Murphy crossover results in a speaker that exceeds the performance you should reasonably expect. The total seems greater than the sum of all the parts and this is rare in any speaker.

The design is as relevant today as the day it was introduced.

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Love the look of the 9.5's Jim. Do you have an estimate on the MSRP?

See you at Axpona in a few weeks!
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We just completed the first pair of SS 9.5's and are doing extensive listening tests before signing off on the design.

No details yet, but here are some pictures...

More info to come in about a week or so. Stay tuned...

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Nice looking, I notice there’s a few designs now that have that Dynaudio looking mid-range, (audiotechnology?), just curious what’s drawn you to start using that mid-range driver?

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Love the look of the 9.5's Jim. Do you have an estimate on the MSRP?

See you at Axpona in a few weeks!
Yes. They are priced at $9995 per pair in a standard finish.

See you at AXPONA!

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Nice looking, I notice there’s a few designs now that have that Dynaudio looking mid-range, (audiotechnology?), just curious what’s drawn you to start using that mid-range driver?
The Audio Technology midrange looks like a Dynaudio driver because the company was founded by the same Skanning family that started ScanSpeak and Dynaudio.

A while back, we were looking for a new midrange driver and Per Skanning designed this one for us. We did not use it at the time, but tried a one-off model for a customer at a later date. We loved the musicality of this driver so much, we eventually released this as a standard model and called it the Song3 BeAT (Be = beryllium tweeter, AT = Audio Technology). After spending a good deal of time listening to all versions of the Song3, we very much preferred the BeAT version overall and decided to use that technology in this new model.

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The Audio Technology midrange looks like a Dynaudio driver because the company was founded by the same Skanning family that started ScanSpeak and Dynaudio.

A while back, we were looking for a new midrange driver and Per Skanning designed this one for us. We did not use it at the time, but tried an one-off model for a customer at a later date. We loved the musicality of this driver so much, we eventually released this as a standard model and called it the Song3 BeAT (Be = beryllium tweeter, AT = Audio Technology). After spending a good deal of time listening to all versions of the Song3, we very much preferred the BeAT version overall and decided to use that technology in this new model.

We couldn't be happier with the results.

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Awesome! Yea as a Dynaudio owner I’m familiar with the Skanning relationship.

A few of us (in the owners thread) have often wondered what a ribbon tweeter on top of a pair of their woofers would sound like! Now you’re making that a possibility.

Just for grins and giggles, what would it cost to have a 2-way design with dual flex 6” B77 woofers per speaker and a raal tweeter? In a cabinet say 39-40”Hx8Wx12-13”D, rear ported, in rosewood? PM me if that’s best.
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The Audio Technology midrange looks like a Dynaudio driver because the company was founded by the same Skanning family that started ScanSpeak and Dynaudio.

A while back, we were looking for a new midrange driver and Per Skanning designed this one for us. We did not use it at the time, but tried a one-off model for a customer at a later date. We loved the musicality of this driver so much, we eventually released this as a standard model and called it the Song3 BeAT (Be = beryllium tweeter, AT = Audio Technology). After spending a good deal of time listening to all versions of the Song3, we very much preferred the BeAT version overall and decided to use that technology in this new model.

We couldn't be happier with the results.

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Even preferred over the Song3 Encore?

And you guys think the AT driver sounds better than the Accuton, too? Just trying to put all of this in context.
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Even preferred over the Song3 Encore?

And you guys think the AT driver sounds better than the Accuton, too? Just trying to put all of this in context.
Better is a relative term. Neither is "better," just different. Both are great drivers.

The Accuton has a stiff, light ceramic cone that is very detailed. If you crave detail, this is one of the most detailed drivers on the market.

Some people want all the detail they can get. They want to hear every subtle detail in the music they are listening to. Others feel it is too analytical, sterile and somewhat lacking in body.

The AudioTechnology driver has a typical Dynaudio sound...not quite as detailed but very smooth and musical with a bit more body in the lower midrange. Some people prefer this smooth sound and the drivers are still detailed enough to more than satisfy.

The Eton driver in the Song3 Encores lies about halfway between these two drivers.

So it is a matter of personal taste more than anything else. Both are excellent drivers and tops in their respective categories.

I hope this helps.

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Question about HT3's

I've had mine since 2007/8, and I've been loving them ever since. I just moved and set up a new theatre, and noticed the left speaker seemed off. Wasn't sure if it was my set up, or maybe even my hearing. I just got a new receiver (NAD 758v3) which has Dirac live. Measured the speakers, and found that the left speaker was about 4dB or so quieter when I was setting up the measurements. Tested with SPL meter as well, found about the same thing. Finally took some measurements behind my acoustic screen, and got these graphs. Left one first, then right. There appears to be quite a dip from 200 Hz to 2200 Hz or so. I'm sure some of it is my measurements (did while my kids were moving upstairs), but I'm wondering if it is a blown midrange? I can't remember the crossover points for it (I have the older ones, with Aurum Cantus ribbon), but the left speaker just doesn't seem/ sound right? Any thoughts? I did a 12 point measurement with Dirac.

Wow, that ended up being a lot longer than I thought!

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Question about HT3's

I've had mine since 2007/8, and I've been loving them ever since. I just moved and set up a new theatre, and noticed the left speaker seemed off. Wasn't sure if it was my set up, or maybe even my hearing. I just got a new receiver (NAD 758v3) which has Dirac live. Measured the speakers, and found that the left speaker was about 4dB or so quieter when I was setting up the measurements. Tested with SPL meter as well, found about the same thing. Finally took some measurements behind my acoustic screen, and got these graphs. Left one first, then right. There appears to be quite a dip from 200 Hz to 2200 Hz or so. I'm sure some of it is my measurements (did while my kids were moving upstairs), but I'm wondering if it is a blown midrange? I can't remember the crossover points for it (I have the older ones, with Aurum Cantus ribbon), but the left speaker just doesn't seem/ sound right? Any thoughts? I did a 12 point measurement with Dirac.

Wow, that ended up being a lot longer than I thought!

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Lots of potential questions, one thing might be to switch speaker cables at the amp to confirm if the issue follows the speaker. Maybe something went bad in the crossover electronics. You might want to reach out to Jim directly on this one.
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Lots of potential questions, one thing might be to switch speaker cables at the amp to confirm if the issue follows the speaker. Maybe something went bad in the crossover electronics. You might want to reach out to Jim directly on this one.
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Good point about the crossovers. I will try switching the speaker cables first, remeasure with Dirac to see if it gives me follows the speaker (I also have REW, but am already set up with Dirac for measuring so I'll just use it). If that doesn't help, maybe the next thing to try is switching the mids between left and right speakers, to see if it follows the speakers as well. Should help to pinpoint if it's the mids, or something else. Might be a while before I can do that. Thanks for the help!

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Hi Jim

Any information on the feedback for SS 9.5 in Axpona?
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Any information on the feedback for SS 9.5 in Axpona?
The SS 9.5's we very well received at AXPONA. A number of reviewers commented that they would be writing positive reviews. But it will take a few days before their show reports are finished. For example, David Robinson of Positive-Feedback indicated that he would be awarding our room with his "Audio Oasis" award in about a week.

One AXPONA attendee emailed to order a pair today. He had a list of speakers to check out at the show. He commented, "I think these speakers are amazing and I am so glad I had the chance to listen to them at AXPONA. All the speakers on my list are very highly regarded and also sound fantastic, but the sight and sound of the 9.5's rose above and really spoke to me at AXPONA."

This was typical of the comments we received from show goers.

As show reports come it, I will try and make sure we post links here.

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@jsalk Thank you for continuing the BMR Philharmonitor, and at a very reasonable price!


(Also, just a heads up, it looks like you have some stray html code on the BMR page under the "RAAL RIBBON TWEETER" heading. There is a "BR>" before "This brings out....")

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@jsalk Thank you for continuing the BMR Philharmonitor, and at a very reasonable price!


(Also, just a heads up, it looks like you have some stray html code on the BMR page under the "RAAL RIBBON TWEETER" heading. There is a "BR>" before "This brings out....")
Thanks. I fixed that. Still doing some editing on this page.

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Those are some beautiful BMR's you've got featured. I've seen quite a few Salk versions of the BMR's, but that's the first time I've seen that particular option.
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Jim,

You make some of the most beautiful speakers I have ever seen, and they're even better on the inside than the outside. I am very happy that you will continue the BMR line going forward.
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Those are some beautiful BMR's you've got featured. I've seen quite a few Salk versions of the BMR's, but that's the first time I've seen that particular option.
They are indeed beautiful. But I would note that this is an older version of the BMR. The current version has all of the drivers in line, which actually improves the off-axis response.
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They are indeed beautiful. But I would note that this is an older version of the BMR. The current version has all of the drivers in line, which actually improves the off-axis response.
I did notice that in the picture and had wondered about it. Thanks for clearing that up. I'll assume the new BMR's will have the new driver alignment.
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While I don't have an immediate need for a center channel, if/when that arises will single BMR center channels be available?

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The Audio Technology midrange looks like a Dynaudio driver because the company was founded by the same Skanning family that started ScanSpeak and Dynaudio.



A while back, we were looking for a new midrange driver and Per Skanning designed this one for us. We did not use it at the time, but tried a one-off model for a customer at a later date. We loved the musicality of this driver so much, we eventually released this as a standard model and called it the Song3 BeAT (Be = beryllium tweeter, AT = Audio Technology). After spending a good deal of time listening to all versions of the Song3, we very much preferred the BeAT version overall and decided to use that technology in this new model.



We couldn't be happier with the results.



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Tell us about the bass design also on the new SS 9.5.


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Tell us about the bass design also on the new SS 9.5.
The woofer section of the SS 9.5's is based on the woofer sections of previous SS floor-standing models. These have all featured passive radiators rather than ports. The passives generate the deepest bass without any possibility of port noise. But there is another advantage as well (and we'll get to that in a moment).

SS 9.5's utilize the Satori 9.5" woofer. This is a somewhat ground-breaking woofer designed in Denmark and produced in Indonesia. So it represents a real value.

Most great woofers in this size range are about 84 dB efficient. So a pair of them is normally required in order to get increase the overall sensitivity of the design (which is based on the sensitivity of the woofer section). Since this woofer has a native sensitivity of 87 db, only one driver is required. The benefit is there is no comb filtering at the intersection of the output from a pair of woofers in space. And the 9.5" cone means there is plenty of cone area to move a lot of air down low.

Also, normally when you go up in sensitivity, the cabinet volume requirements rise fairly quickly. But in this case, the internal volume requirements still result in a reasonably-sized cabinet.

The Satori woofers are really a marvel of driver engineering, bumping right up to the laws of physics.

Each woofer section has a pair of side-firing passives. These passives produce the deepest bass in the system and provide an F3 of 25Hz (-3 dB down-point).

When designing a new model, once in a while you discover a benefit you had not anticipated. The side-firing passives fall into that category.

We first showed the SS12's in California. We had shipped a pair and flew to the show. We wanted a very minimalist set-up and had not shipped any room treatments--especially bass traps. When we arrived and saw the small size of the room, we thought we were in big trouble. We had shown large ported speakers in small rooms in the past and had a bit of trouble controlling the bass. But when we fired up the SS12's, there were no problems.

Think about it this way. There are four passive radiators spread across the front of the room and all of them are delivering the deepest bass. It is almost like having four subwoofers spread across the front of the room. The passives load the room very evenly and don't present the kind of issues associated normally with a rear-firing port.

Instead, what you get is tight, well-controlled bass down to 25Hz, even in a smallish room.

I hope this helps.

- Jim
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