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Yes it does. MCACC doesn't go near the analog inputs (improved on the SE model). OPPO is coming out with a new model (cheaper) and my guess is it will perform just as well via HDMI... which means you might want to wait.

Ok, so just to clarify, I should not use any SC-07 processing (use only Pure Direct) if I'm going to use the OPPO SE's analog outputs. Is that correct?
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Well... I just got back from 2 weeks of vacation, turned on my SC-07 and plugged in my iPod to my HMG. It all went just fine, music played, all controls were good, and then I turned on my monitor (Kuro KRP-600m) to see some of the shots from the trip.

Ack! It is all green. The HMG screen was all green. So I tried the MCACC screen. All green!

I grabbed my new Canon still camera, plugged the yellow composite vid and black connector into the front panel and everything was green.
........................................

Shane,

I think I know what happened...

On your Kuro..

With your remote:

Go to HOME MENU > OPTION, > HDMI INPUT> VIDEO..

I think you may have set your display to color -2
color-2 sets the video signal to 4:4:4 <- great for blu-ray BTW, but AUTO will set it to 4:4:4 when it's appropriate anyway..
You want it set to AUTO or color-1 (4:2:2 <- appropriate for HGM and most video signals)

Try that and let us know

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Steveoreno,

Thanks for the update.
Added you name to list including your testing.
https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post17121071

Thanks for following up

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malmeyer,

Bummer.. what a strange issue...
The obvious settings:
you have the switch set to the main right? No chance you have zone 2 on?
You have the speaker switch set to SPEAKERS A or A and B ?..
Unit is set to AMP and not THROUGH?
No headphones in jack? <- sorry had to ask...
MCACC mike not connected? <- disables normal speaker ops.
Did you double check that input signal is set to DIGITAL (cycle with remote)?

Have you gone over the trouble shooting guide on page 113?

Unless something catastrophic happened to your power or the reciever, I hope it's just a setting inadvertantly set....

Please let us know how it goes

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..............................................This great thread gets a little less usage every day and thought you guys might like a good read. Going to be a bummer when it starts slipping to page 5.

Happy new year to all.

+1
It's been a great thread, I learned a lot of things here, and had fun at the same time!

The SC-07 and SC-05 has proven itself to be one great receiver..
especially for a new design and product. Them ICE Amps are cool.

Thanks to everyone who participated and continues to contribute!

Hope everyone has a great and safe New Year, and a fantastic 2010!

Charles

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Ok, so just to clarify, I should not use any SC-07 processing (use only Pure Direct) if I'm going to use the OPPO SE's analog outputs. Is that correct?

Yes, that is correct.
Use only the "Pure Direct" input.
Otherwise, you will be adding additional digital processing to an already analog output.

Happy New Years Eve to all that participate on this Thread from all of us in Palm Springs/Desert California!
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I will get it fixed one of these days when I wont miss it.

Good luck with that one!
Maybe, when you have another SC unit.
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Shane,

I think I know what happened...

On your Kuro..

With your remote:

Go to HOME MENU > OPTION, > HDMI INPUT> VIDEO..

I think you may have set your display to color -2
color-2 sets the video signal to 4:4:4 <- great for blu-ray BTW, but AUTO will set it to 4:4:4 when it's appropriate anyway..
You want it set to AUTO or color-1 (4:2:2 <- appropriate for HGM and most video signals)

Try that and let us know

thanks!!! I'll give it a try and let you know.

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Good luck with that one!
Maybe, when you have another SC unit.

Yeah,
I know what you mean
I figure the next time I take an extended vacation. Wont miss it if i am not at home.
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+1
It's been a great thread, I learned a lot of things here, and had fun at the same time!

The SC-07 and SC-05 has proven itself to be one great receiver..
especially for a new design and product. Them ICE Amps are cool.

Thanks to everyone who participated and continues to contribute!

Hope everyone has a great and safe New Year, and a fantastic 2010!

Charles

I couldn't agree more.

Charles, so far you have made 2010 a great year. Your advice worked (putting the input to Auto), and the green is no more.

This has been a great thread.

Thanks to you and to all who have contributed.

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Steveoreno,

Thanks for the update.
Added you name to list including your testing.
https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post17121071

Thanks for following up

I have a SC-25 that never had the left blue LED (in the center array) work. I didn't even know it should have another blue LED.

Rick

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I have a SC-25 that never had the left blue LED (in the center array) work. I didn't even know it should have another blue LED.

Rick

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I couldn't agree more.

Charles, so far you have made 2010 a great year. Your advice worked (putting the input to Auto), and the green is no more.

This has been a great thread.

Thanks to you and to all who have contributed.

shane

Awesome,

Glad that worked!
Enjoy! and thanks for following up with us.

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I have a SC-25 that never had the left blue LED (in the center array) work. I didn't even know it should have another blue LED.

Rick

Rick,

Added your name to the list, thanks for letting us know.
https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post17121071

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malmeyer,

Bummer.. what a strange issue...
The obvious settings:
you have the switch set to the main right? No chance you have zone 2 on?
You have the speaker switch set to SPEAKERS A or A and B ?..
Unit is set to AMP and not THROUGH?
No headphones in jack? <- sorry had to ask...
MCACC mike not connected? <- disables normal speaker ops.
Did you double check that input signal is set to DIGITAL (cycle with remote)?

Have you gone over the trouble shooting guide on page 113?

Unless something catastrophic happened to your power or the reciever, I hope it's just a setting inadvertantly set....

Please let us know how it goes

Thanks for the ideas. Those were pretty much the steps I had tried the night it happened. It is boxed up now and ready to be taken in. They were closed today because of the holiday. I will report back what happened. Well, unless it was just a setting. ha ha Ok I'll even post that.

Thanks again and Happy New Year!
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+1
It's been a great thread, I learned a lot of things here, and had fun at the same time!

The SC-07 and SC-05 has proven itself to be one great receiver..
especially for a new design and product. Them ICE Amps are cool.

Thanks to everyone who participated and continues to contribute!

Hope everyone has a great and safe New Year, and a fantastic 2010!

Charles

Happy New Year indeed!

Although it has been a very long time since posting here, this is a valuable resource and community.

Best wishes to all.
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Just 2 quick questions:

1) as I am rarely on here much, has there been any FW updates for the SC-05 yet? And if so, how do you install it? Did PIO make use of the ethernet connection (one could only hope they do)? Or made the USB port usable?

2) if any of you have visited the Pioneer 320/23 Blu-Ray player posts, it is mentioned that Pioneer might no longer make BD players! Is this true? And if so, what ELSE would Pioneer be pulling out of? Will we PIO AVR owners be left in the dust as well? I have already suffered (and was lucky to part with early enough) through Onkyo dropping support for their 805 receiver as well as Samsung seeming to now have left their 25xx BD player owners out in the cold. I sure hope Pioneer does not leave or neglect us. Nor would I like to see them disapear, as I love their products a lot.

Also, HAPPY NEW YEAR to you all. and may 2010 be better than the last 2 years!!!!!
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Gents, I need some help. I purchased the Xantech 29185 IR receiver to relay my remote signals from zone 2 back to the SC-07. I'm having trouble making it work. the Xantech came with a CB12 connector block that, supplies power to the 29185 and has a 3.5mm mono output meant for connecting an emitter. I've connected this mono emitter output to the SC.

The CB12 green power LED is lit and the Yellow LED flashes when the remote IR receiver sees a signal. The 29185 has a "talkback" LED that also flashes when it receives IR.

questions for the SC-07 crowd. Does it matter weather the I plug it into 1 or 2? (ie, as if 1 is zone 2 and 2 is zone 3?) When I'm in zone 2 I assume I should still have the remote button set to zone 2 and not just when I'm standing in front of the receiver? do the IR inputs have any power available on them?? maybe 12v? or are they strictly mono inputs?

Before I started using the connector block, I plugged the IR receiver directly into the receiver (thinking that's all i needed to do). So I'm hoping having that plugged in didn't toast anything.
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Hey Guys!

I very much enjoy my SC-07. However, after trying to get some things working, I'm a bit frustrated.

I bought this fairly expensive receiver (for me anyway!) as an "upgrade" from my older Intergra DTR7.4. I'm finding, though, that some things that I was really hoping would work are not.

1) I am getting a network error when trying to stream my music off my computer's hard drive. I have over 10,000 MP3s. After doing some hunting around in this thread I see that there is a 2,000 file limit. WHAT was Pioneer thinking when they imposed this crazy limit on a higher end receiver??? This is extremely frustrating for me as I was able to stream my music with no problems with my Integra. Did I take a step backwards here? I tried doing some searching but was unable to find a "work around" for this. Does one exist?

2) I am also trying to stream Rhapsody. I can see Rhapsody, see the playlists and the channels, and even click on them but as soon as I try to play a channel, it comes up for about 1/2 a second then immediately goes back to the previous menu??? It seems like the only thing I can stream via Rhapsody are individual songs. Any ideas why my channels won't stream? Is anybody successfuly streaming Rhapsody?

I also see there is a firmware revision posted in post #10025. I don't have an Ipod but seem to remember reading (don't find it now though) this was primarily for Ipod users. Will this firmware fix any of my issues?

Anyway, I very much like my SC-07 but some of the things I'd REALLY like to do are not working correclty Any assistance at all anybody could give me would greatly be appreciated. I did try to search here for quite a while looking for answers but this thread is so huge I find it difficult to find stuff so apologize if all this has already been answered but I just couldn't find it. This thread really could be its own forum

Thanks much!
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Hi,

First time poster here, long time reader (relatively).

I would like to start by saying that this thread has been a wealth of information for me, and was a major contributor in the purchase of my Elite receiver, which I've had since Oct. '08.

I haven't been following the thread for a while, but I did quite a few avs searches and couldn't find an answer to the following question.
The setup is this:
I was watching Fight Club on BD the other day. Awesome movie, awesome video and audio. There's a part in the movie where Ed Norton's character imagines that the plane he's on gets hit with another plane (I forget the timestamp). It then gets REALLY loud, with the planes getting torn apart and all. It's right there when my SC-07 decided to shut off suddenly. Now, I'm not asking WHY this happened; I'm pretty sure it was because it was a little too intense, so the 07 shut itself off for protection. This has happened a few times before in the last year, only one other time with a BD ("Wanted") but mostly when playing Rock Band really loud. I like to watch my movies LOUD, around reference volume. When the 07 shut off it was at -12dB. I've watched tons of movies at this volume or louder, like Incredible Hulk, 300, Die Hard 4, etc. (i.e. intense action movies). I turned the 07 back on, and I remembered I had the mains set to Large because I was listening to music last. I thought setting them to small and the crossover to 80hz would give more headroom but it shut off again at the same scene. I had to turn it down to -16dB to prevent a shut off.

I guess my question is, has anyone had a problem with the SC-07 shutting off automatically when running it at loud volumes??

I love this receiver BECAUSE it plays really loud without strain (98% of the time). But every so often a scene comes along that it can't handle. Sometimes this is in the back of my mind when I'm showing off my home theatre and I think: "Crap, what if the 07 shuts off when it's really loud? That would be embarrassing."
I've never heard anything except clean sound come out of the 07, i.e. no signs of distortions or clipping. Because of that I thought I had tons of leeway when it came to volume and power. But now it's looking like I might wanna upgrade in the near future to a receiver with even more oomph (which I didn't think I'd ever have to worry about when I bought the 07).

I'm running Energy Reference Connoisseur speakers all around in a 5.1 setup:
RC-70 mains, RC-LCR centre, RC-10 surrounds, and an Energy ESW-V10 sub. Oh, and a 8" Paradigm sub connected via Y-adapter on the sub-out.
I usually have RC-mini's as rear surrounds, but right now I have the L/R channels bi-amped through the SC-07. The RC-70's are pretty efficient, with 92dB sensitivity, 95dB when playing both speakers. I run a Pioneer BDP-51FD and an Elite SS PRO-101FD plasma monitor. My entire home theatre is plugged into a Monster Clean Power Stage 2.
I'm not sure why the SC-07 has trouble sometimes, I didn't think I could push it too hard, and I don't think I am really. My previous receiver, a 90wpc Yamaha rxv-661 never had a problem (different room, but just as loud).

Whew, I've said a mouthful.
Anyone ever experience this with their SC-07??

I would like to hear any opinions.
Thank you.

P.S. My left LED on the front of the receiver also went out, around 4 months into ownership.
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does the sc05 light up "lpcm" or "pcm" when fed the lpcm signal? I ask because i been trying to stream a .mkv file from my pc via a ps3 slim to my sc05 but the sc05 lights up "pcm" on the front panel. It does light up the 5 speakers and lfe though. Is this correct or should the pio front panel light up "lpcm" if its recv'ing the signal?

ps i've never seen the sc05 light up "lpcm" ever
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Yup, search for my posts in this thread and you will see an entire discussion of what sounds very similar. It was a massive pain for me. I've no time to go into details now but a thread search should give you a feel for my issue. I can discuss it later or PM me.
this seems like an SC05/07 issue of shutdown sensitivity which is speaker dependent (was for me, Denon did not shut down, neither did any of my prior Elites 94, 82, 74 with the same speakers and same content - the SC's shut down all the time).



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Hi,

First time poster here, long time reader (relatively).

I would like to start by saying that this thread has been a wealth of information for me, and was a major contributor in the purchase of my Elite receiver, which I've had since Oct. '08.

I haven't been following the thread for a while, but I did quite a few avs searches and couldn't find an answer to the following question.
The setup is this:
I was watching Fight Club on BD the other day. Awesome movie, awesome video and audio. There's a part in the movie where Ed Norton's character imagines that the plane he's on gets hit with another plane (I forget the timestamp). It then gets REALLY loud, with the planes getting torn apart and all. It's right there when my SC-07 decided to shut off suddenly. Now, I'm not asking WHY this happened; I'm pretty sure it was because it was a little too intense, so the 07 shut itself off for protection. This has happened a few times before in the last year, only one other time with a BD ("Wanted") but mostly when playing Rock Band really loud. I like to watch my movies LOUD, around reference volume. When the 07 shut off it was at -12dB. I've watched tons of movies at this volume or louder, like Incredible Hulk, 300, Die Hard 4, etc. (i.e. intense action movies). I turned the 07 back on, and I remembered I had the mains set to Large because I was listening to music last. I thought setting them to small and the crossover to 80hz would give more headroom but it shut off again at the same scene. I had to turn it down to -16dB to prevent a shut off.

I guess my question is, has anyone had a problem with the SC-07 shutting off automatically when running it at loud volumes??

I love this receiver BECAUSE it plays really loud without strain (98% of the time). But every so often a scene comes along that it can't handle. Sometimes this is in the back of my mind when I'm showing off my home theatre and I think: "Crap, what if the 07 shuts off when it's really loud? That would be embarrassing."
I've never heard anything except clean sound come out of the 07, i.e. no signs of distortions or clipping. Because of that I thought I had tons of leeway when it came to volume and power. But now it's looking like I might wanna upgrade in the near future to a receiver with even more oomph (which I didn't think I'd ever have to worry about when I bought the 07).

I'm running Energy Reference Connoisseur speakers all around in a 5.1 setup:
RC-70 mains, RC-LCR centre, RC-10 surrounds, and an Energy ESW-V10 sub. Oh, and a 8" Paradigm sub connected via Y-adapter on the sub-out.
I usually have RC-mini's as rear surrounds, but right now I have the L/R channels bi-amped through the SC-07. The RC-70's are pretty efficient, with 92dB sensitivity, 95dB when playing both speakers. I run a Pioneer BDP-51FD and an Elite SS PRO-101FD plasma monitor. My entire home theatre is plugged into a Monster Clean Power Stage 2.
I'm not sure why the SC-07 has trouble sometimes, I didn't think I could push it too hard, and I don't think I am really. My previous receiver, a 90wpc Yamaha rxv-661 never had a problem (different room, but just as loud).

Whew, I've said a mouthful.
Anyone ever experience this with their SC-07??

I would like to hear any opinions.
Thank you.

P.S. My left LED on the front of the receiver also went out, around 4 months into ownership.

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Quick followup question to this. I am getting an 83SE this week. Though I will be using it in a different system, for a few months I'll be testing it with my SC07. If I use the analog outputs of the SE and still want the added enhancement of the MCACC room corrections, will the 7.1 analog inputs be able to use them (namely do the analog inputs bypass mcacc or only if I designate Pure Direct)?


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Yes, that is correct.
Use only the "Pure Direct" input.
Otherwise, you will be adding additional digital processing to an already analog output.

Happy New Years Eve to all that participate on this Thread from all of us in Palm Springs/Desert California!

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You want to use "Pure Direct" to shut down all processing.
When using "Auto Surround" or "Direct", you will be able to add MCACC, etc.
As I stated earlier, you will be defeating the purpose of using the BDP-83 SE analog outputs if anything other than "Pure Direct" is used.
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I guess my question is, has anyone had a problem with the SC-07 shutting off automatically when running it at loud volumes??

You are using pretty darn efficient loudspeakers.
What type of speaker wire or cable are you using?
Otherwise, you may want to have your unit looked at.
It should still be under warranty.

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Thanks, I'm going through your old posts and found some useful info, including the Digital Safety feature and MCACC EQ levels which I want to try out later.

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I'm using Energy Connoisseur 14awg for mains (bi-amped) and 12awg for centre (bi-wired), and 14awg from The Source/RadioShack for surrounds.
I have 2 sets of Monster spades on each front spkr, and my centre is bare wire.
On the back of the 07, each of the fronts is connected with banana's. My centre has all bare wire connects (ran out of banana plugs).
One thing which I want to do is disconnect everything, clean the terminals, check for stray wire strands, etc. then reconnect. Don't know when I'll have time though.
I read in The Absolute Sound that Craig De-Oxit is good for cleaning. Don't know where to get it though.
I also have some Cardas RCA caps on some unused inputs on the back.
Want to solve this thing in home; sending it out for repair would be agonizing, hehe.
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Sure, just to quickly summarize. I went through this over a six month period, swapped all my wiring twice, sent my SC in twice, tried at least 6 different AVR models on the exact same speaker system, including 3 prior generations of Elites (only the SC's shut down, initially only at high volume but eventually it started shutting down even with no content, so my problem got worse over time). Finally I put a scope on the output and saw the 5v p-p high freq pulse train (those are the scope pictures I posted). It was coupling with the cross-over of my speakers and the shutdown circuit of the SC was triggering. Modifying the xover or dumping the speaker brand/model was my only option. (the SC was so sensitive that even changing the length of my speaker wire was enough to changing the coupling effect).

Checking your wiring and everything else is a very good idea but none of that worked for me. My speakers were not damaged and confirmed to be in spec, the switching nature of the SC ICE amps was coupling in a way that triggered the shutdown (my other avrs were all A/B I believe). You may have a different problem but if you have a scope, just pop it on the output, use my settings and see if you see what I did.


Good luck.

(btw, no one at Pioneer could tell me exactly what the Att setting did, but it did not help me in any case)
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Thanks, I'm going through your old posts and found some useful info, including the Digital Safety feature and MCACC EQ levels which I want to try out later.

Perpendicular:
I'm using Energy Connoisseur 14awg for mains (bi-amped) and 12awg for centre (bi-wired), and 14awg from The Source/RadioShack for surrounds.
I have 2 sets of Monster spades on each front spkr, and my centre is bare wire.
On the back of the 07, each of the fronts is connected with banana's. My centre has all bare wire connects (ran out of banana plugs).
One thing which I want to do is disconnect everything, clean the terminals, check for stray wire strands, etc. then reconnect. Don't know when I'll have time though.
I read in The Absolute Sound that Craig De-Oxit is good for cleaning. Don't know where to get it though.
I also have some Cardas RCA caps on some unused inputs on the back.
Want to solve this thing in home; sending it out for repair would be agonizing, hehe.

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aseer & bengrimm,

You poor souls!


bengrimm,

I use the Caig DeoxIT Survival Kit, which works very well.
Although, you could use just the Caig cleaner.


aseer,

Are you still using an SC series AVR?
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Yup, an 07 (still have the 94, 74, and 82 and a few others. The 94 is very close in performance but I wanted to explore the capabilities of the 07).

Once my speaker vendor learned about the specifics of the pulse train that the SC's switching ICE amps were emitting they quickly figured out what was going on and a quick mod to the cross over showed they were correct. The SC's combo of switching amp and shutdown mechanism is incompatible with some speakers, there is no longer any question about this.

I would love to see what someone else's SC looks like on a scope as I am worried the migration from shutdown at volume to shutdown with no content means something was damaged. Getting Pioneer to pay attention to this has been incredibly frustrating (for a guy who owns 9 pioneer AVRs/head units I really hoped for better treatment, though owning even one should be enough).




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aseer & bengrimm,

You poor souls!


bengrimm,

I use the Caig DeoxIT Survival Kit, which works very well.
Although, you could use just the Caig cleaner.


aseer,

Are you still using an SC series AVR?

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I'm no expert but it seems very strange that certain speakers are triggering the shutdown. Is this impedance related or something else in the design?
And if it is design, what specifically do they say is the problem?

All I know is my 4 ohm Magnepans are not doing this to the SC-09.

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