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Have the JC5 and bitterly disappointed with the binding posts! Unable to connect standard speaker wire with spades, do I have to use only bare wire? Posts look fancy but the opening is too small - I have mid-line Transparent cables with spades.
I suggest that you call our technical department for more information. These binding posts can certainly be used with spade lugs assuming they are of a relatively standard dimension.

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Which one of this is better choice - HINT 6 or P6 + A21+?

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Which one of this is better choice - HINT 6 or P6 + A21+?
I’m hoping you mean A23+, and I hope the answer is that the separates are better, since that’s the combo I’ll end up with ina few months.
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I’m hoping you mean A23+, and I hope the answer is that the separates are better, since that’s the combo I’ll end up with ina few months.
I actually meant A21+. I know A21+ is much costlier but want to know if money is no objection is it worth going with A21+. Is there noticeable different between A21+ and amp inside Hint6.

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I actually meant A21+. I know A21+ is much costlier but want to know if money is no objection is it worth going with A21+. Is there noticeable different between A21+ and amp inside Hint6.
I got answer to my own question from man himself (John Curl) on one of other forum:

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The A23 uses my design, but not my direct input. 2 means 2 ch, 3 means cheaper.
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I agree. The A21 is quite a bit more amp than the A23, and I am not just talking power. It is more refined. The A23 is not as quiet and is more susceptible to transformer noise.

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I suggest that you call our technical department for more information. These binding posts can certainly be used with spade lugs assuming they are of a relatively standard dimension.

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Update on binding posts:
Parasound tech did walk me through the binding posts design and I was able to connect spades using (mid-line) Transparent cables.

A few points for others who may encounter similar challenges:
1. The narrow slit for inserting spades in on the bottom of binding post. Tolerance is tight, I had 1 spade with the prongs a bit bent, had to compress them to insert. Would help if opening was on both sides, vertical top and bottom.
2. If your cables are very stiff (close to the spades), then possible issues if your amp is the bottom component, as cable needs to bend in a tight curve (angle of 90 degrees between spade and cable).
3. Easiest way to connect spades is: (i) Stand amp (on soft carpet/surface) on its front face with the back panel up. (ii) Now easy to insert spades and tighten (size must be right). (iii) Then slowly lower amp on its feet taking care to allow the cable a gentle curve bend.

All in all, the Parasound folks were very helpful and the tech person worked with me through iPhone face time call to get this done - innovation is great!

And BTW, the amp sounds quite nice (only a few hours use yet), rich robust sound with a good heft/body. It also runs warm, much warmer than expected and maybe a tad more than the JC1s - anyone know if it operates in Class A and how many watts?
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For those of you who are interested in learning more about Parasound's Amplifiers and their designer, see the following link to a Parasound hosted evening with John Curl.


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For those of you who are interested in learning more about Parasound's Amplifiers and their designer, see the following link to a Parasound hosted evening with John Curl.
Thanks. I use JC 1s for LCR in one setup. The link gave me a bit of insight about why they sound so good. Preamp is JC 2 BP, phonostage JC 3.
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Anyone know if the A51 and A31 are going to be updated soon? Would like to pick up one of them on closeout.
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Anyone know if the A51 and A31 are going to be updated soon? Would like to pick up one of them on closeout.
There are no immediate replacements under consideration with respect to the A31 and A51.
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There are no immediate replacements under consideration with respect to the A31 and A51.
Thanks for the update.
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There are no immediate replacements under consideration with respect to the A31 and A51.


Is that marketing or technically constrained? Granted 300 watts x 5 would require a 20 amp circuit or dual 15s but heat management or other if technical?


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P7 preamp + A52 amp
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Ticking sounds coming out of the P7. It sounds a bit like when you turn the device on/off.
Very irregularly, sometimes after 10 minutes, sometimes after an hour.
Searching the internet I found information that it could be a problem with a relay.
Any thoughts much appreciated.
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Ticking sounds coming out of the P7. It sounds a bit like when you turn the device on/off.
Very irregularly, sometimes after 10 minutes, sometimes after an hour.
Searching the internet I found information that it could be a problem with a relay.
Any thoughts much appreciated.
Fascinating. I use a P7 ocassionally. From time to time, I hear an intermittant but not subtle "tick" and had assumed that it was associated heating/cooling of the metal rack. Unfortunately, I have not made note of whether the P7 was in the system/rack at the time.

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Ticking sounds coming out of the P7. It sounds a bit like when you turn the device on/off.
Very irregularly, sometimes after 10 minutes, sometimes after an hour.
Searching the internet I found information that it could be a problem with a relay.
Any thoughts much appreciated.
I suggest that you call our technical department for more information.

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To @WAFWarrior and others: I'm using the Halo Integrated DAC/preamp part and connect its analog out to a standalone power amp which connects to speakers. Will that cause any damage to the HINT as its amp part no longer has speakers connected? Thanks.

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Okay, I did some quick research and it seems no load damaging power amp is more of a tube amp thing. But if I put dummy speaker load like this or this to the HINT, what are the electrical/sonic affects?

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Okay, I did some quick research and it seems no load damaging power amp is more of a tube amp thing. But if I put dummy speaker load like this or this to the HINT, what are the electrical/sonic affects?
This approach using a load resistor is not necessary. Having nothing connected to the amp section of this Integrated Amp will not affect it adversely.

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This approach using a load resistor is not necessary. Having nothing connected to the amp section of this Integrated Amp will not affect it adversely.
Thank you for the confirmation.

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To @WAFWarrior and others: I'm using the Halo Integrated DAC/preamp part and connect its analog out to a standalone power amp which connects to speakers. Will that cause any damage to the HINT as its amp part no longer has speakers connected? Thanks.
I wonder why you need external amp with Hint?

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Just trying different amps. The Akitika GT-102 actually. Very impressed.
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The Akitika GT-102 actually. Very impressed.
looks like a very cool amp project, especially for the price (I'd love to build one of these)
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I recently got a new Parasound A 52+ , and have been testing it out in my home theater. I have a Denon X8500 running 13 Martin Logan 4 ohm Motion speakers ( 2 Motion 40’s, 1 Motion SLM XL center speaker, 4 Motion FX surrounds, 2 Motion LX16 wide channel speakers, 4 Motion 4 height speakers, and 4 SVS subwoofers ). I have been running my Motion 40's with an Emotiva XPA 200 I've had since the Denon 4520 days. Now I'm using the A 52+ to run the L / C / R and wide channel speakers, and letting the X8500 run the heights and surrounds. The difference last night watching the Mission: Impossible – Fallout 4K Blu-ray ( excellent Atmos sound track by the way ) was noticed by all my guests. The extra headroom just seems to give a cleaner, less fatiguing sound. Even cranked to 78 on my Denon ( which is pretty loud in my theater ). So far I think the A 52+ is the perfect compliment for my receiver. I also installed AC Infinity Aircom T10 cooling fans, and the amp and X8500 never got much over 80 degrees, even after 2 1/2 hours of " Fallout " 13 channels of Atmos audio hammerfest !

This is a great amp !
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And there are so many on AVS Forum that continue to say an amplifier does not make a difference and the amps in an AVR are "just as good". I find most of these people have never even tried an external amplifier.

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And there are so many on AVS Forum that continue to say an amplifier does not make a difference and the amps in an AVR are "just as good". I find most of these people have never even tried an external amplifier.
I like to play action / war / sci-fi movies pretty loud ( when the wife isn't watching anyway ). And my theater is around 3550 cubic feet, best as I can measure ( with a 12' tall peaked ceiling ).
Two of my guests last night had already watched " Fallout " in my theater prior to my installing the A 52+. They commented that the sound was yet again better in my room ! The same guests commented on a sound improvement when I installed acoustic panels - without my mentioning I made any changes ! So there is an improvement !
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I like to play action / war / sci-fi movies pretty loud ( when the wife isn't watching anyway ). And my theater is around 3550 cubic feet, best as I can measure ( with a 12' tall peaked ceiling ).
Two of my guests last night had already watched " Fallout " in my theater prior to my installing the A 52+. They commented that the sound was yet again better in my room ! The same guests commented on a sound improvement when I installed acoustic panels - without my mentioning I made any changes ! So there is an improvement !
Everything matters as you have found out. Some to a lesser degree than others. Acoustic treatments and better amplification certainly do provide great improvements.

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I took the upgrade plunge and went from two 2125 bi-amping each of my Klispch Epic CF 3s to a Halo a21 and all I can say is wow! The sound is more dynamic and I could swear the detail is much better. It took me a couple of years for this upgrade but well worth the wait.
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Looking for a replacement for an old 1205A my father has that has all the overload lights on. There is not an authorized repair place in any reasonable amount of distance and shipping would probably not make sense for a unit this old. Would the A52+ be a newer replacement for this? It seems to have a little more power 180 vs 140 per channel but otherwise seems to be very similar.
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