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Like the title says, I'm in the market and would love some advice. I'll be pairng one of these AVR's with Arx A5 (when they ship) in the front an Arx A2 center and A1's in the rear until the A4's drop. Sub will be dual Epik Legends down the line.

I would love to have a receiver with X32 but I really don't want to spend the money on that right now. The budget is being pushed out as is (thank jeebus for a tax return and a big family) and these two AVR's seem to have what I need (3D support, lossless codecs, ARC and an GUI being a few of my reqs.) So the question for me comes down to which of the to room EQ's are better for a set-up like this?

Are there cheaper alternatives that will be of better benefit both financially and functionally?

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AudysseyXT and ypao are about the same. Neither will do much with dual subs.

I would probably get the Yamaha. Mainly because Yamaha's have a better reliability record than Onkyo's.
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Audyssey MultiEq XT will eq your sub. The Yamaha won't.
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Ypao only does room correction and doesn't eq a sub?
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Ypao only does room correction and doesn't eq a sub?

Like Audyssey there are different versions of YPAO. The A2010 and 3010 will both EQ a sub but the models below that will not. Audyssey 2EQ will not touch a sub but MultEQ and up will. Having duel subs it would be great to have XT32 but I got really good bass right now using a spl meter and MultEQ XT. You just have to get the two subs to the same volume before running it. I'm sure XT32 would be better but I'm still waiting for the 4311 to drop some more before I make the plunge.
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If you are serious about home correction, you will not want ypao. If you are a multi sub guy, you really don't want ypao.

Onkyo is hit or miss in quality control. You should consider denon as an option before looking at onkyo.

Yamahas are nice avr's, but seriously lack in room correction.
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Like Audyssey there are different versions of YPAO. The A2010 and 3010 will both EQ a sub but the models below that will not. Audyssey 2EQ will not touch a sub but MultEQ and up will. Having duel subs it would be great to have XT32 but I got really good bass right now using a spl meter and MultEQ XT. You just have to get the two subs to the same volume before running it. I'm sure XT32 would be better but I'm still waiting for the 4311 to drop some more before I make the plunge.

How cheap does it need to get before you treat yourself to XT32?

https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1388717
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If you are serious about home correction, you will not want ypao. If you are a multi sub guy, you really don't want ypao.

Onkyo is hit or miss in quality control. You should consider denon as an option before looking at onkyo.

Yamahas are nice avr's, but seriously lack in room correction.


Denon or Yamaha, I prefer Yamaha myself but Denon are great as well. I prever quality over room correction ability......

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XT32 is simply out of my price range at the moment. And I didn't really figure any Denon receiver into the equation simply because I'm not as familiar with it. But I did do some research today and I want to throw this AVR into the conversation : Denon AVR2112CI
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XT32 is simply out of my price range at the moment. And I didn't really figure any Denon receiver into the equation simply because I'm not as familiar with it. But I did do some research today and I want to throw this AVR into the conversation : Denon AVR2112CI

FWIW my 4311 comment was directed at MJPierce. I will say both my brother in law and his father have a 2112 and are very pleased with it. I think it hits a sweet spot as far as features go at this price point, and there are some smoking deals on this unit right now. I'd give Electronics Expo and Av Science Sales a call and see what they can do for you on price.
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Check out the first three or four posts for Denon XX12 model differences and BatPig buying tips.

https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1334369
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How cheap does it need to get before you treat yourself to XT32?

https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1388717

Don't laugh.... Under 1000.

I wanted it when I got my 3311 but the cheapest I could find it then was 1500 and I found the 3311 for 530 so I couldn't pay an extra 1000 for XT32. I think It will go down a good bit once the 4313 comes out so I'm just playing the waiting game.
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Once you're comparing products with similar quality amps, room correction will impact sound quality more than anything....by far, in my experience. I specifically chose my last two receivers (Marantz, Denon) because of Audyssey MultEQ XT. Unless you have a great acoustic room already, Audyssey will make a leaps and bounds difference. I can't speak to YPAO, but if it doesn't EQ the sub, that would be a dealbreaker for me.

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XT32 is simply out of my price range at the moment. And I didn't really figure any Denon receiver into the equation simply because I'm not as familiar with it. But I did do some research today and I want to throw this AVR into the conversation : Denon AVR2112CI

When my brother was looking for a receiver I recommended the 2112 and he loves it. To me, the best two value receivers are the 2112 and 709 but I'm a big Audyssey fan.
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Don't laugh.... Under 1000.

I wanted it when I got my 3311 but the cheapest I could find it then was 1500 and I found the 3311 for 530 so I couldn't pay an extra 1000 for XT32. I think It will go down a good bit once the 4313 comes out so I'm just playing the waiting game.

I'm not laughing at all. That is a smoking deal for the 3311 and I bet it sounds awesome. My brother-in-law has budget speakers and sub with a 2112 in a tough room with in-ceiling speakers for the surrounds in the wrong place and I think XT did a fantastic job with it, all things considered.
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To me, the best two value receivers are the 2112 and 709 but I'm a big Audyssey fan.

I feel the same way.

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