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I am racking my brain trying to decide on a new AVR - upgrading from an old Onkyo, and looking at the 1010 or the newer Denon X4100. I'm kinda discouraged with the issues of the Onkyo HDMI boards frying, but I've loved mine for nearly a decade now and I thought I read somewhere where that only affected the 2010 models of receivers?

I use my HT for mostly movies and TV, and don't care about Airplay, or Atmos. I just want something that is going to sound great for the next ~decade.

Even though they are probably both amazing receivers, this is a lot harder of a decision than I anticipated...
Get the Denon, I just got the 4100 a few weeks ago and Im happy to be back with Denon! After owning my last Onkyo a 806, itll be my last!
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Go with the 1010, It's an absolute BEAST! No problems 2 years strong!
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I am racking my brain trying to decide on a new AVR - upgrading from an old Onkyo, and looking at the 1010 or the newer Denon X4100. I'm kinda discouraged with the issues of the Onkyo HDMI boards frying, but I've loved mine for nearly a decade now and I thought I read somewhere where that only affected the 2010 models of receivers?

I use my HT for mostly movies and TV, and don't care about Airplay, or Atmos. I just want something that is going to sound great for the next ~decade.

Even though they are probably both amazing receivers, this is a lot harder of a decision than I anticipated...
While concerns around the Onkyo are fair, check the Denon x4100 forum as I think you might find that receiver is not free from issues.

I just "received" a 1010 Saturday and so far so good ;-)

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Go with the 1010, It's an absolute BEAST! No problems 2 years strong!
Dude it is a beast - big & heavy! Not quite as bad as lugging a 15" subwoofer up the stairs, but I got a workout with the 1010.
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I am racking my brain trying to decide on a new AVR - upgrading from an old Onkyo, and looking at the 1010 or the newer Denon X4100. I'm kinda discouraged with the issues of the Onkyo HDMI boards frying, but I've loved mine for nearly a decade now and I thought I read somewhere where that only affected the 2010 models of receivers?

I use my HT for mostly movies and TV, and don't care about Airplay, or Atmos. I just want something that is going to sound great for the next ~decade.

Even though they are probably both amazing receivers, this is a lot harder of a decision than I anticipated...
All receivers have their issues. You really need to decide based on your needs. If you have low sensitivity speakers and no external amplification, the 1010 would better suit you. If you have higher sensitivity speakers or external amplification, the Denon might better suit you. Also, Onkyo has been quick to fix any issues with the boards, even in older out of warranty units.
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All receivers have their issues. You really need to decide based on your needs. If you have low sensitivity speakers and no external amplification, the 1010 would better suit you. If you have higher sensitivity speakers or external amplification, the Denon might better suit you. Also, Onkyo has been quick to fix any issues with the boards, even in older out of warranty units.
Thanks for the reply; I think I'm going with the 1010. I have looked at an external fan to put ontop of the receiver to help with the heat supposedly generated by this monster, as it'll be somewhat enclosed save for the rear - does anyone have any recommendations on this? There are many choices on Amazon, and I'd rather cool the unit before anything has a chance to happen.

Being a guy who custom builds his own PCs, I hate heat.
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help with the heat supposedly generated by this monster
Compared to the HTIB Onkyo receiver I had (TX-530 iirc), this one is as cool as the other side of the pillow

You could prolly put some 120mm quiet fans in the cabinet, not necessarily on the unit itself, and maybe get 12v using a DC transformer.

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That's good to hear. I just know my current 507 gets pretty hot to the touch (in the rear!) after a movie or show at a higher volume.
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I've used THIS Comcool setup on my 876 and now my 1010. On the beastly hot 876, it lowered the internal temperature (per front panel readout) from typically ~60°C to typically 34°C. That's a huge temperature drop. If the 1010 has a similar temperature readout function, I have not yet discovered it.

The good news is that the 876 is still going strong since Feb '10, and that's with an accumulated 20,000+ hours (based on the service menu hours of the two TVs it's been used with). I either got an exceptionally good 876 or the fans made a difference. Maybe both.

The 876 now lives in my son's new man cave theater. It replaces his 806 that was destroyed by a wayward screw that pierced a speaker cable and literally sent the 806 up in flames. It, too, was cooled by a Comcool unit and never gave a bit of trouble in heavy use (until it met its untimely demise).

One thing I did do to the Comcool units is close the open short frame edges with black duct tape. This forced ALL air to be drawn through the receiver. Prior to closing the sides off, the 876 ran at about 42°C with the cooler... still a big reduction from 60°, but the 10 minutes of time and roll of black duct tape were still worth the effort. The fans that came with the Comcool unit lasted about two years running ~12hrs/day. I replaced them with ultra quiet Scythe fans that are still running quietly three years later.

One issue with the 1010 that did not exist with the 876 is that the 1010 lacks a switched outlet to power the fans. I solved this with the 1010 by using a current sensing power strip with the 1010 plugged into the master port and the fan power supply plugged into one of the slave ports.
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Well my unit is now doing the same thing, no sound, greyed out speaker set up icon in the menu, no network, and when you enter the home button all you get is insta prevue and set up icons? Thanks for the link at Onkyo, I have submitted my info and they should be sending me my RA box soon. So depressing, cause I was not going to buy an Onkyo due to the hdmi failures and having my 805 die last year. Oh well, I gave them the benefit of the doubt! Funny thing is this scenario happened 2 months after I bought the unit and they had me reset it, that lasted 2 years!! Wish I knew what they are doing to fix the new fubar
Just to vent a little, I still don't have my receiver back! I sent it in with their supplied box, in which it is clearly requested to fortify the supplied foam insulation with some additional packing. I had this thing bubble wrapped to survive a nuclear blast. well they shipped it back and sure enough it was damaged. I sent it back and haven't seen it since
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Ouch, how long it has been since you sent the damaged unit?

They were very disorganized, but I got it back within a week. It was repaired locally as far as I can tell.

One thing I noticed ever since they fixed it: when I turn on the receiver, a black screen with ONKYO in the middle shows up for a few seconds, never seen it before.

Which reminds me, I need to check the firmware, if they did replace a board it be on an older firmware.

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So I got the receiver back on Friday the 27th of March. I just got back from vacation and I am in the process of setting it up. I'll write back and let y'all know what I find
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I thought it would be worth posting an update.

I've warmed up to the TX-NR1010 over the last year+. The HDMI problem I was experiencing was
in fact a defective HDMI board which did eventually fail completely (and took out my old Pann'y Plasma's
single HDMI port in the process!). Yeah, that wasn't nice. I had to ship the Onkyo out for repairs.
A month later I got it back and put some active cooling over the top vents to prevent any HDMI
failure repeat. That seems to have done the trick. It's been working fine ever since. The solution
to my zone problems just involved making sure components like my bluray have analog stereo out
so that there is always analog stereo for the zone output. I've connected the Onkyo into a much
more involved multi-zone system now but any shared sources are connected to both the Onkyo
and the distribution amp. I'm just feeding zone 2 and zone 3 pre-outs to the distro' amp for "main
room" and "guest room." I'm pretty happy with it's performance overall. I've gotten the feeling
a few times that "something" is a little lacking on some audio content that I know very well... but
again I'm not sure if that is just my imagination. My main room is definitely a much more "active"
space with less sound absorption and much less ambient noise. That may have more to do with
things sounding different than before than anything else. As much of a headache as the defective
hdmi board was, ever since the repair it has been a reliable performer. I'm not 100% sure I would
buy it again, but it is on it's way to redeeming itself.

Part of the reason I was back looking on this board is that I was starting to look at using the
zone 2 HDMI. I've already discovered a quirk with that as well. If you are using the zone 2 HDMI
no audio comes out of the zone 2 analog stereo outputs even if there is analog audio for the corresponding
source. Kind of annoying... so if I want analog audio I have to get an HDMI Audio Extractor. I have a
sneaky suspicion that if the selected zone 2 source is analog that there will be no audio on the hdmi
either but I don't have a way to test that right now. The sad fact is that all these little quirks make
this receiver quite a pain to work with. I've already had to buy digital delay devices to get the analog
audio in lip-sync with digital sources. For a product that attempts to mix digital and analog input output
management it is a miserable failure.

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Did you make sure to set zone 2 to be powered in speaker setup and use the controls on front (left side) of the receiver itself to activate zone two (instead of set to 'off')?<br><br>
I just spent some time trying to get sound to zone 2 as well, but didn't use the HDMI or set anything to analog. I was just using Spotify as source and wanted to get sound in both zones and that worked fine once I gave up, read the manual and realized I couldn't do it using the remote alone.</div>
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I got it figured out. Turns out on Zone 2 you cannot display digital video and use analog audio at the same time. I had to use main HDMI out or mirror that and then send the analog audio to Zone 2. I got it almost working from my remote. Only downside is, when I send a command to mirror the HDMI out from my remote, I set it back to HDMI Matrix switch mode.. Right now I have to go back in to setup with the remote and turn HDMI 2 to "Use" again to get back to where I want it. Think I have to bite the bullet eventually and get a full HDMI Matrix switch with break out analog audio to get it all to work properly.
Hi,

I just ran into this myself, and am planning to get an HDMI audio extractor gadget to address the problem. It's still a little
annoying that analog audio sources won't be available in zone 2. It's a shame this thing has so many quirks.
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So, irony of all irony, just after I said I had started to warm up to this P.O.S. I come home from a weekend away and it is blown! What a gigantic piece of Garbage. I've had this thing about 2 years, it was already repaired once and now no network and no sound. I'm never buying Onkyo again, it is total crap.

Edit: Now I see there is another defect and return program. I guess I'll be returning it. Their trade-in offer
is for $250 or have it repaired... This thing cost over $1200 and has been nothing but trouble. Unfortunately,
I see that many people out there complaining about $1000-$2000 AV Receivers failing in less than two years.
What do we really have for options if the quality is generally poor. I expect a device like this to last
about 10 years. My last one made it for 8 or 9 years.

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Just submitted the Info for "No Audio, no network repair."

Glad I'm not the only one, and It's covered for a free repair. ;-)

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New 2015-09-25 F/W for Onkyo's TX-NR1010 included

I checked the Onkyo U.S. site when I came home from work tonight and voilà! I saw that new firmware was readily available for a bunch of receivers...check yours. I updated my 1010, you just have to copy the six .of# files to an empty USB flash drive (to make sure nothing interferes!) and stick it to the front panel USB slot. That's how I always do mine –this is my 3rd to this Rx. It took less than what...2 min.? to complete. I didn't measure it, ±. Just read and follow the instructions. Everything seems to be working fine afterwards, cool. No idea (as yet at least) which Blu-Rays etc. are involved in the improvements, and the rest. A happy, successful update to you all! My 1010 had the previous F/W from 2014-12, 1081-0104-0200-0000.



Firmware Update TX-NR1010 (24-09-2015)

We are pleased to offer this firmware update for the best possible performance of your AV Receiver.

TX-NR1010
(Version 1081-1104-0200-0000)

Improves Spotify Connect operation
Improves audio output of DTS-HD Master Audio with particular Blu-ray disc
This particular firmware update is only available via USB installation

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Does it reset the settings? Do i need to re-run Audyssey?

Firmware: http://download.onkyo.com/AVR000F/ON...HA00HA_112.zip
Instructions and changelog: http://redirect.onkyousa.com/redirec..._9_24_2015.pdf


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Does it reset the settings? Do i need to re-run Audyssey?

Firmware: http://download.onkyo.com/AVR000F/ON...HA00HA_112.zip
Instructions and changelog: http://redirect.onkyousa.com/redirec..._9_24_2015.pdf

Does it reset the settings?

No? For instance, I had the Rx set start for "Net" & this french music radio station and that's how it stayed after the update.

Do i need to re-run Audyssey?

My TX-NR1010 at least stayed at, briefly (just my Audissey main settings), "Music" – "On" – "0dB" – "Light" as before.
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I might do it then, thanks!

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Unhappy Front Right Channel "Dead"

Hey All. I could use another set of virtual eyes on this. I sent an email to Onkyo regarding my TX-NR1010 and figured I'd ask around for additional thoughts in the meantime. Here goes:
Firstly, I'd like to preface my call for help with noting that I am have intermediate to advanced knowledge of AVRs. I've performed several troubleshooting steps (which I will describe in detail) to arrive at the following conclusion: I believe there is something wrong with the DSP circuits on my unit.

Symptom: Front right channel failing.

My first step in attempting to diagnose the issue was to turn on the test tone and run it through each channel. The white noise test tone worked flawlessly on each channel with appropriate volume.

My second step was to plug in headphones to see if it was something with the THX mode I was using or surround processing in general. The result was inconclusive, because I wasn't sure if my ears were biased. The right channel seemed fade, but I wasn't positive.

My third step was to play different sources and sound modes. I settled on the THX certification app for my iPhone since I couldn't locate my calibration disc. I had my phone - through a lightning to HDMI adapter - send test sounds to individual channels. Initially, I was able to hear the front right, but after switching sound modes on the receiver a few times (THX to Pure Audio and back) I was finally able to reproduce the issue consistently. Front right channel would not produce any sound when prompted.

I was glad to have my suspicions confirmed, but also disappointed. Please let me know how to proceed.

Thanks, ~Alfred
That's what I put in the form. There's not much more to add. Let me know if there are any clarification points I should make. Thanks in advance!

Side note: I've already had it serviced under the extended warrantee program.

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Hey All. I could use another set of virtual eyes on this. I sent an email to Onkyo regarding my TX-NR1010 and figured I'd ask around for additional thoughts in the meantime. Here goes:
Firstly, I'd like to preface my call for help with noting that I am have intermediate to advanced knowledge of AVRs. I've performed several troubleshooting steps (which I will describe in detail) to arrive at the following conclusion: I believe there is something wrong with the DSP circuits on my unit.

Symptom: Front right channel failing.

My first step in attempting to diagnose the issue was to turn on the test tone and run it through each channel. The white noise test tone worked flawlessly on each channel with appropriate volume.

My second step was to plug in headphones to see if it was something with the THX mode I was using or surround processing in general. The result was inconclusive, because I wasn't sure if my ears were biased. The right channel seemed fade, but I wasn't positive.

My third step was to play different sources and sound modes. I settled on the THX certification app for my iPhone since I couldn't locate my calibration disc. I had my phone - through a lightning to HDMI adapter - send test sounds to individual channels. Initially, I was able to hear the front right, but after switching sound modes on the receiver a few times (THX to Pure Audio and back) I was finally able to reproduce the issue consistently. Front right channel would not produce any sound when prompted.

I was glad to have my suspicions confirmed, but also disappointed. Please let me know how to proceed.

Thanks, ~Alfred
That's what I put in the form. There's not much more to add. Let me know if there are any clarification points I should make. Thanks in advance!

Side note: I've already had it serviced under the extended warrantee program.
Just to cover the obvious, check the physical connections carefully, switching outputs to see if the problem follows... I was about ready to get a new computer soundcard recently until I figured the speaker connection on my power amp was loose! -Dick L.
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Just to cover the obvious, check the physical connections carefully, switching outputs to see if the problem follows... I was about ready to get a new computer soundcard recently until I figured the speaker connection on my power amp was loose! -Dick L.
Thanks for your reply. I checked the connections as an unlisted step zero. What I failed to make clear is that this issue seems to present itself intermittently - it's been difficult to get it to trigger on demand, but when the issue does manifest the symptoms are 100% reproducible.

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Can someone please please please assist me in setting up pre-out settings/configuration for for my front mains (L+R)? This is ridiculous that I can't figure this out.. I have the 1010's pre-out front RCA outs connected to my two-channel amp; and two 8oh main L+R connected to amp. I went into the the 1010's speaker settings to tell it to bypass L+R mains but there is no L+R selection option the "Preout to External Amplifier" menu?? I don't know why I thought this would be easy but I'm obviously missing something. I am only running a 5.1 setup -- maybe that's the issue? I've combed through the manual last night and this morning to no avail.. ugh. I'm simply wanting to run my L+R mains out of my Plinius two-channel amp vs. having to keep swapping my speaker cables from the 1010 to the amp every time I want to listen to two-channel music.



I'd appreciate any help. Many thanks.
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Can someone please please please assist me in setting up pre-out settings/configuration for for my front mains (L+R)? This is ridiculous that I can't figure this out.. I have the 1010's pre-out front RCA outs connected to my two-channel amp; and two 8oh main L+R connected to amp. I went into the the 1010's speaker settings to tell it to bypass L+R mains but there is no L+R selection option the "Preout to External Amplifier" menu?? I don't know why I thought this would be easy but I'm obviously missing something. I am only running a 5.1 setup -- maybe that's the issue? I've combed through the manual last night and this morning to no avail.. ugh. I'm simply wanting to run my L+R mains out of my Plinius two-channel amp vs. having to keep swapping my speaker cables from the 1010 to the amp every time I want to listen to two-channel music.



I'd appreciate any help. Many thanks.
It’s been a long time since I owned the 1010, but my experiences with other receivers paired to an amp is just hook the preouts to the amp and your speaker wires from speaker to the amp and everything should work. I’m not aware of any settings you need to change. Have you tried rerunning Audyssey once you made the switch?

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I'm going to be upgrading my receiver soon, but I have a question about this unit before I do. In my new configuration, I will be upgrading from 5.1 (L/R/C/Side L/Side R) to 5.1.2 with the .2 being front L/R heights. My question is, if I add front heights now as a precursor to my upgrade, what does the Onkyo TX-NR1010 do with them? I presume it takes 7.1 soundtracks and uses them for something, but I want to know if anyone has tried it in this configuration. Do you like it?

Edit - Specifically, I mean what does it do with a DTS-MA 7.1 signal for example. I understand processing like DTS NEO: X would expand the sound field to use those speakers.

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I'm going to be upgrading my receiver soon, but I have a question about this unit before I do. In my new configuration, I will be upgrading from 5.1 (L/R/C/Side L/Side R) to 5.1.2 with the .2 being front L/R heights. My question is, if I add front heights now as a precursor to my upgrade, what does the Onkyo TX-NR1010 do with them? I presume it takes 7.1 soundtracks and uses them for something, but I want to know if anyone has tried it in this configuration. Do you like it?

Edit - Specifically, I mean what does it do with a DTS-MA 7.1 signal for example. I understand processing like DTS NEO: X would expand the sound field to use those speakers.
All the 1010 would do is up-mix the track to include new height channels. It wouldn’t be able to process it like Neo:X. In order to get true Atmos and DTS:X, as well as their up-mixers (DSU and Neo:X), you will need a new receiver.

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All the 1010 would do is up-mix the track to include new height channels. It wouldn’t be able to process it like Neo:X. In order to get true Atmos and DTS:X, as well as their up-mixers (DSU and Neo:X), you will need a new receiver.
Thanks. Yeah I know I need a new receiver for that. I just figured if I can afford the speakers before the new receiver then why not install them and hook them up to my TX-NR1010. If the up-mixed is distracting I can always turn them off.

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Thanks. Yeah I know I need a new receiver for that. I just figured if I can afford the speakers before the new receiver then why not install them and hook them up to my TX-NR1010. If the up-mixed is distracting I can always turn them off.
I’m sure the upmix would sound fine.

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