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Most remotes I find claim to be a replacement for the original remote, and I can't say I care for the button layout. For one thing, the volume buttons are smaller.
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Most remotes I find claim to be a replacement for the original remote, and I can't say I care for the button layout. For one thing, the volume buttons are smaller.
There's also the option of using a Logitech Harmony remote as well which would likely be able to control all of your devices (eg. 650 controls up to 8 devices).
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SAVE Config question:
I'm successful in saving the config.dat file as the file size is 956kb and it has data in the file however the Denon never comes out of 'saving' mode. It will display saving until I eventually cycle the power off/on by pulling the AC plug. I did a soft reset before the save procedure and the IP Control is set to "Always ON", I didn't try set to "Off in Standby" if that might have some bearing. Just wondering if anybody else experience this?

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Hi all, I just got used avr x4000 my front is def tech Bp200tl and have dedicated sub polk psw 505. What is the best way to connect my speaker when run auto calibration? I did tried twice but always got crossover for my front is 150hz. TIA
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Hi all, I just got used avr x4000 my front is def tech Bp200tl and have dedicated sub polk psw 505. What is the best way to connect my speaker when run auto calibration? I did tried twice but always got crossover for my front is 150hz. TIA
Turn the sub down. Cal is probably sensing too much from the sub and not enough from the front.
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Turn the sub down. Cal is probably sensing too much from the sub and not enough from the front.
You meant the polk 505? I put volume level on my polk only at 1/4.
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Hi all, I just got used avr x4000 my front is def tech Bp200tl and have dedicated sub polk psw 505. What is the best way to connect my speaker when run auto calibration? I did tried twice but always got crossover for my front is 150hz. TIA
Connect Front L/R speaker posts to the Def Tech L/R speakers and connect the sub pre-out 1 to the PSW505. Review the Audyssey FAQ below on how to get the best from Audyssey.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...d-part-ii.html
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Hi all, I just got used avr x4000 my front is def tech Bp200tl and have dedicated sub polk psw 505. What is the best way to connect my speaker when run auto calibration? I did tried twice but always got crossover for my front is 150hz. TIA
Connect Front L/R speaker posts to the Def Tech L/R speakers and connect the sub pre-out 1 to the PSW505. Review the Audyssey FAQ below on how to get the best from Audyssey.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...d-part-ii.html
I did that twice, first I did without power in front L/R built in amp and second with power in front L/R built in amp and the result still same.
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Also my main goal is be able to use front L/R built in sub and dedicated sub on HT and built in sub only on stereo music.
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connecting Denon amp to senheiser headphones

hi there everyone, absolutely new to this forum and looking for some help. recently purchased a set of senheiser 175 wireless digital headphones for the times where things need to be watched and monsters should not be woken, however I was a little disappointed as im not sure I can digitally connect them to my current amp
I have a Denon AVRX 4000 which seems to have 2 optical audio points, yet both of them are input not output. The headphone sender unit has either a 3.5 analogue input or digital optical input. im wondering if anyone out there has any ideas as to weather I can connect these digitally. 2 other units I have (Foxtel and apple tv) both have optical outputs, yet this is a pain to switch the cable every time I need to change what im watching

any assistance would be greatly appreciated
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hi there everyone, absolutely new to this forum and looking for some help. recently purchased a set of senheiser 175 wireless digital headphones for the times where things need to be watched and monsters should not be woken, however I was a little disappointed as im not sure I can digitally connect them to my current amp
I have a Denon AVRX 4000 which seems to have 2 optical audio points, yet both of them are input not output. The headphone sender unit has either a 3.5 analogue input or digital optical input. im wondering if anyone out there has any ideas as to weather I can connect these digitally. 2 other units I have (Foxtel and apple tv) both have optical outputs, yet this is a pain to switch the cable every time I need to change what im watching

any assistance would be greatly appreciated
Regards

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Correct. Most AVRs generally no longer feature optical outputs. You have a couple of options to connect to the wireless transmitter:

(1) Connect the optical outputs from the Foxtel and ATV to an optical switch --> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_...FcdUhgodrsoCiA
(2) Connect the Zone 2 pre-outs to an RCA --> 3.5mm adapter and set the AVR's surround mode to ALL ZONE STEREO.
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Sennheiser FAQ says that RS-175 WL Headphones will only accept (Stereo) PCM Optical Input mode (NOT the usual default "BITSTREAM", i.e. Surround mode)....so there is NO advantage to using Optical Interface compared to simply using an adapter cable to connect RS-175's 3.5-mm Audio Input to your choice of Denon's Audio L/R RCA Output Jacks, which could be either Media Player L/R, Front L/R, Zone2 L/R or Zone3 L/R (as viewed from Left to Right on Rear Panel):
https://en-us.sennheiser.com/wireles...e-audio-rs-175
http://manuals.denon.com/AVRX4400H/N...SYultsfrsy.php [Denon Rear Panel Descriptions]
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...ZSs6edeRqbaaSW [Denon User Manual]

Media Player L/R Output (and L/R Input) appears to be equivalent to the old TAPE IN/OUT connections....which would be ideal since it is at a constant signal level....so only have to use RS-175's Volume Control.

Front L/R Output is part of the Pre-Out block and would be under control of the Denon's Volume Control.....in addition to RS-175's Volume Control....so you are likely to be blasted out by the Sound Level when you go back to listening via Speakers [which would have to be Disabled for listening via Headphones...IF that is even possible]....so best to look elsewhere.

Zone2 L/R or Zone3 L/R RCA Jack Outputs are also viable alternatives with INDEPENDENT Volume Controls, although you would have to figure out how to configure your AVR:
http://manuals.denon.com/AVRX4400H/N...Ynqubzpha.php#


So I would ALSO recommend you use Zone2 (or Zone3) L/R RCA Jack Outputs....and adjust Zone2 (or Zone3) Output Level so that sound from headphones at Max Volume settings is just within "safe" listening level. At the RS-175's Transmitter Unit, use the AUDIO INPUT SELECTION switch to select either 3.5-mm Analog L/R Input or Optical Input....and an Optical Switch to select either Fostec or AppleTV.

IF you want a more automated system with a Remote Control, you COULD use something like the fol. 3-port Optical Switch where the Analog Audio L/R signal from the Denon first goes through an inexpensive Analog-to-Optical Converter, so RS-175 is always operated with Optical Input:
https://www.amazon.com/J-Tech-Digita.../dp/B00HQ2R38C [3-to-1 Optical Switch with R/C]
https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Optic.../dp/B01HERN6EI [L/R RCA Audio to Optical Converter]

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Need help with E400

Just purchased a 2019 Samsung Q70R tv and while watching Netflix through TV the sound goes in and out because the receiver won't stay in Dolby. Makes watching impossible.

any suggestions????

I can watch through xbox or blu ray player with no issues.....just the app through the TV.

Update: I switched to optical and sound issue is re4solved, but how do I get the audio source to change when I pick the app? Ex. Loaded Netflix app and NBA game audio still playing while Netflix video playing. With ARC it of course switches audio to Netflix when app is loaded.

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Need help with E400

Just purchased a 2019 Samsung Q70R tv and while watching Netflix through TV the sound goes in and out because the receiver won't stay in Dolby. Makes watching impossible.

any suggestions????

I can watch through xbox or blu ray player with no issues.....just the app through the TV.

Update: I switched to optical and sound issue is re4solved, but how do I get the audio source to change when I pick the app? Ex. Loaded Netflix app and NBA game audio still playing while Netflix video playing. With ARC it of course switches audio to Netflix when app is loaded.
Press the "TV Audio" button on the remote.
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Press the "TV Audio" button on the remote.
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Press the "TV Audio" button on the remote.
JD, how can I get DTV remote to do volume when optical?

ARC obviously makes things a lot easier with one less remote.....not sure why I have sound issues with HDMI passthrough and Netflix.
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Press the "TV Audio" button on the remote.
JD, how can I get DTV remote to do volume when optical?

ARC obviously makes things a lot easier with one less remote.....not sure why I have sound issues with HDMI passthrough and Netflix.
DirecTV remotes are programmable, so you just need to find the code for your model AVR.

https://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/conte...hread/11030941

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Audio 1360 (31360) should work fine on most DirecTV, cable and one-for-all remotes.

Then set punch thru to the audio device. Works on older DTV remotes. But AVR control may have been removed from newer ones.

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Audio 1360 (31360) should work fine on most DirecTV, cable and one-for-all remotes.

Then set punch thru to the audio device. Works on older DTV remotes. But AVR control may have been removed from newer ones.
thank you. Changing a TV after a few years is like starting all over. Much appreciated.
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Can my denon avr-x4000 auto select the sound mode based on the source?

Hi all

I want my amp to switch to 2.1 for music sources like tuner or internet radio then if I select blue ray or cable\sat it must automatically switch to 5.1. Can it do this and how?

I've just moved from a Yamaha amp to the demon and have it mostly sorted, but this I'm just not getting yet. Likely a learning curve issue but any advice would be appreciated.

Tia

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Just select STEREO on the remote for those inputs like tuner and internet radio. It will remember that setting the next time you switch to it. I have 5 Denons in two homes and they all work the same way.

Now, if you have one single source that you use to watch movies, listen to Pandora, stream Netflix and Prime, etc then it would be difficult to have a default setting.

But my cable/sat, blu ray, dvd and media player input all automatically use multichannel sound such as Dolby D, DTS, True HD, Atmos depending on the signal. My CD and Internet radio input play in stereo.

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Just select STEREO on the remote for those inputs like tuner and internet radio. It will remember that setting the next time you switch to it. I have 5 Denons in two homes and they all work the same way.

Now, if you have one single source that you use to watch movies, listen to Pandora, stream Netflix and Prime, etc then it would be difficult to have a default setting.

But my cable/sat, blu ray, dvd and media player input all automatically use multichannel sound such as Dolby D, DTS, True HD, Atmos depending on the signal. My CD and Internet radio input play in stereo.
Use a Quick Select for each one up to 4.
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Thank you. That will sort me out nicely.

Next question: I bi amp my front mains. As soon as I select the bi amp option in the menu system it greys out the option to set up 2 channel sound so the stereo option disappears and I'm left with multi channel only across all sources. If I move to 5.1 plus b to get a bi amp effect but still have access to the 2 channel sound it comes with a couple of quirks like only running one front amp channel when I move to stereo... How do I get the bi amping done properly and still manage to go 2.1 when I need to?
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OK managed to answer my own question by delving deeper into the user manual... The bit I was missing was that I needed to hold down the sound mode button on the remote until a selection menu pops up and then could select what I wanted.

Problem solved - now back to fine tuning each mode. Very pleased with the receiver so far. A worthy upgrade to the Yamaha.
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Thank you. That will sort me out nicely.

Next question: I bi amp my front mains. As soon as I select the bi amp option in the menu system it greys out the option to set up 2 channel sound so the stereo option disappears and I'm left with multi channel only across all sources. If I move to 5.1 plus b to get a bi amp effect but still have access to the 2 channel sound it comes with a couple of quirks like only running one front amp channel when I move to stereo... How do I get the bi amping done properly and still manage to go 2.1 when I need to?
Important to note that using a receiver's passive "bi-amp" mode is not likely to provide any real benefit, certainly not in additional power as there is only one power supply, but if you have the extra speaker wire, no harm in giving it a go.
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Important to note that using a receiver's passive "bi-amp" mode is not likely to provide any real benefit, certainly not in additional power as there is only one power supply, but if you have the extra speaker wire, no harm in giving it a go.

Yep - I have read this before, but I started bi-amping more out of (quite frankly) having something to do with those extra amp channels that I have no other use for and the recommendations of various hifi salespeople. I must say I think it does make a noticeable difference for me (Or perhaps it's all in my head!) - It just seems 'sweeter'. I'm not after massive volume, but rather that sweet atmospheric feel in the room.


So running the audyssey setup really made quite a hash of things and it took me a long while to find my way around and rectify everything. Well, perhaps that is putting it incorrectly. What it did was drop the levels on everything significantly except my rears. This tells me the amp feels my rears are underperforming and I should perhaps look at upgrading them.


My fronts are a pair of Paradigm Monitor 9's, centre is a Paradigm CC290, single sub - Paradigm PS-1000 and then the rears are simply a pair of smaller Jamo bookshelf speakers that are highly likely to be the cause of the Audyssey problem. Should I replace them with a matching set of Paradigm rears, do you think the Audyssey setup will be more inclined to get it right?
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Yep - I have read this before, but I started bi-amping more out of (quite frankly) having something to do with those extra amp channels that I have no other use for and the recommendations of various hifi salespeople. I must say I think it does make a noticeable difference for me (Or perhaps it's all in my head!) - It just seems 'sweeter'. I'm not after massive volume, but rather that sweet atmospheric feel in the room.


So running the audyssey setup really made quite a hash of things and it took me a long while to find my way around and rectify everything. Well, perhaps that is putting it incorrectly. What it did was drop the levels on everything significantly except my rears. This tells me the amp feels my rears are underperforming and I should perhaps look at upgrading them.


My fronts are a pair of Paradigm Monitor 9's, centre is a Paradigm CC290, single sub - Paradigm PS-1000 and then the rears are simply a pair of smaller Jamo bookshelf speakers that are highly likely to be the cause of the Audyssey problem. Should I replace them with a matching set of Paradigm rears, do you think the Audyssey setup will be more inclined to get it right?
In most cases when a member posts that Audyssey didn't do a good job, it generally means the EQ was incorrectly run (perhaps positioning of the speakers or positioning of the mic).

Take some time to review the Audyssey FAQ ---> https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...d-part-ii.html
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Help with AVR-X3000 iRadio functionality

First, I completely understand this receiver is pretty old, but in general its been fantastic for me and my family and I really don't want to replace it right now. This receiver is the main hub for all A/V right now in my family room, the place where my kids watch cartoons all the time and where my family and I want the majority of our TV, Movies, etc. It's also the unit we use for two zones while having friends and family over for parties etc. It's pretty important.

The receiver is running the most current version of firmware and I have reset the microprocessor once to troubleshoot, i've also done the simple unplug power about 200 times over the last couple months.

The trouble is that one of the most used features on this receiver, the iRadio/Network audio functionality is basically dead. No matter what I do, no matter how I use the receiver (via web controls, via AVR-Remote app, via actual remote or front controls), the minute I try to access iRadio or Network, the device attempts to play the last played iRadio station. The station plays fine, but I cannot select any other station or iRadio function. For example, using AVR-Remote, if I go into network and try to select Pandora, it starts play the previously played iRadio station and will never load pandora. If i browse the iRadio menu and select a different station, it continues to play the previous station and never starts the new select.

This is super frustrating and Denon has been less than helpful. I contacted the support which was a joke too. For one, I contacted their email address for support several times and never heard back, I called their phone number several times and got this absurd message that says "we're sorry, we have high call volume, try again later" and hangs up on me. I used to design IVR systems, that's a joke. Finally I submitted a case through their online support request system, and got a canned email that basically says "send it to our service center" which could have 4-6 week turn around. Seriously? Have zero entertainment in my main living space for that long.

Zero troubleshooting help from Denon. This is my third Denon receiver, may be my last if I have to replace it right now.

Any one experience similar iRadio issues and have some suggestions?

Thanks.
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First, I completely understand this receiver is pretty old, but in general its been fantastic for me and my family and I really don't want to replace it right now. This receiver is the main hub for all A/V right now in my family room, the place where my kids watch cartoons all the time and where my family and I want the majority of our TV, Movies, etc. It's also the unit we use for two zones while having friends and family over for parties etc. It's pretty important.

The receiver is running the most current version of firmware and I have reset the microprocessor once to troubleshoot, i've also done the simple unplug power about 200 times over the last couple months.

The trouble is that one of the most used features on this receiver, the iRadio/Network audio functionality is basically dead. No matter what I do, no matter how I use the receiver (via web controls, via AVR-Remote app, via actual remote or front controls), the minute I try to access iRadio or Network, the device attempts to play the last played iRadio station. The station plays fine, but I cannot select any other station or iRadio function. For example, using AVR-Remote, if I go into network and try to select Pandora, it starts play the previously played iRadio station and will never load pandora. If i browse the iRadio menu and select a different station, it continues to play the previous station and never starts the new select.

This is super frustrating and Denon has been less than helpful. I contacted the support which was a joke too. For one, I contacted their email address for support several times and never heard back, I called their phone number several times and got this absurd message that says "we're sorry, we have high call volume, try again later" and hangs up on me. I used to design IVR systems, that's a joke. Finally I submitted a case through their online support request system, and got a canned email that basically says "send it to our service center" which could have 4-6 week turn around. Seriously? Have zero entertainment in my main living space for that long.

Zero troubleshooting help from Denon. This is my third Denon receiver, may be my last if I have to replace it right now.

Any one experience similar iRadio issues and have some suggestions?

Thanks.
There's a lot of very helpful information provided in posts 1-7 of this thread. Refer to post 5 and do a "Network reset."
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In most cases when a member posts that Audyssey didn't do a good job, it generally means the EQ was incorrectly run (perhaps positioning of the speakers or positioning of the mic).

Take some time to review the Audyssey FAQ --->

And I did just that - read it top to tail, and you are quite correct - I have some homework to do before rerunning the setup according to spec. Thanks for the heads up - there's quite a bit I did not either understand properly or do correctly to get a proper result. There goes my weekend!
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