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Yes, this works.
Thanks for the reply! I would MUCH prefer doing it this way. Now I just have to determine what the best "stick" to buy is.
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Hope this is the right place to ask...

My current living room set up is:
Sony Bravia 55EX720
Denon X1100W
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XBox 360
NetGear WDR4300 (though, I've run out of physical ports to connect things to and the Denon is not currently wired to it)

I am trying to thinking about cuting the cable/sat tv cord. I am about to receive a Roku stick, so I'll try connecting the Roku directly to the Denon when I have it, but knowing now that I can't load Kodi (what used to be XBMC) on to the Roku, I'm looking for a way to push Kodi from my PC or Adroid phone to the home theater set up. I know how to and have pushed content from my phone to the tv via DLNA before, but the audio came from the tv speakers only.

So, I am wondering how I can integrate the Denon into the mix. Can I:

1) Push content from my phone to the TV with the audio then being pushed from the TV back to the Denon?
2) Push content from my phone to the Denon with the Denon pushing video to the TV?
EDIT - 3) Just use Kodi to download content to my PC and then access that content from the XBox.

Is their another approach I am not considering?

TIA!!

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So, I am wondering how I can integrate the Denon into the mix. Can I:

1) Push content from my phone to the TV with the audio then being pushed from the TV back to the Denon?
2) Push content from my phone to the Denon with the Denon pushing video to the TV?
EDIT - 3) Just use Kodi to download content to my PC and then access that content from the XBox.

Is their another approach I am not considering?

TIA!!
I do option 1 with a Samsung smart TV using Miracast, with the audio going to the AVR via ARC (although optical works too).
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I do option 1 with a Samsung smart TV using Miracast, with the audio going to the AVR via ARC (although optical works too).
Im wondering how I get audio from the TV to the Avr, though...
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Im wondering how I get audio from the TV to the Avr, though...

arc or optical

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arc or optical
So, I have a HDMI going from the AVR to the TV. It's on the ARC Monitor port on the AVR. Will the TV send audio back thru that to the AVR?
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So, I have a HDMI going from the AVR to the TV. It's on the ARC Monitor port on the AVR. Will the TV send audio back thru that to the AVR?

it should. and usually does

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it should. and usually does
Okay. So I have my Comcast stb connected to the CBL/SAT input on the AVR. I use a Harmony remote to Watch TV which turns on the TV and sets it to proper HDMI input and turns on the AVR and sets it to CBL/SAT.

I started a movie on my phone, clicked the play to icon and selected my TV...I see the video, but the AVR is playing audio from the Comcast stb. How do I get the sound from the TV?

EDIT - I went into the TVs options screen and for audio deselected "Speakers" and selected "Audio System", but still no audio. I've selected each of the inputs, e.g., CBL/SAT; GAME; TV AUDIO; etc., but no audio from the movie on the TV.

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change the avr input, iirc its calld tv

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change the avr input, iirc its calld tv
Yeah, I selected "TV AUDIO", but no sound.
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check the video out

http://denon-uk.custhelp.com/app/ans...rc-%26-optical

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Thank you!!

I had to turn on HDMI control on both the AVR and the TV.

Thanks, again!
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In addition to discussing the required settings for HDMI control, this video gives only the optical or coax method of returning audio to the AVR. Remember that ARC is a third method that does not require an additional connection, assuming the TV has an ARC input.
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In addition to discussing the required settings for HDMI control, this video gives only the optical or coax method of returning audio to the AVR. Remember that ARC is a third method that does not require an additional connection, assuming the TV has an ARC input.
Yep...my TV fortunately is ARC-enabled so it worked out.

Now, if only I could figure out how to stream programming from Kodi on my PC to my TV...whew!
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Thank you!!

I had to turn on HDMI control on both the AVR and the TV.

Thanks, again!
Lots of great info provided in the first 6 posts of this thread to include information on setting up HDMI(ARC) in post 3.
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Hope this is the right place to ask...

So, I am wondering how I can integrate the Denon into the mix. Can I:

1) Push content from my phone to the TV with the audio then being pushed from the TV back to the Denon?
2) Push content from my phone to the Denon with the Denon pushing video to the TV?
EDIT - 3) Just use Kodi to download content to my PC and then access that content from the XBox.

Is their another approach I am not considering?

TIA!!
I don't use KODI but use JRiver. I stream to Chromecasts on both an 889 and 2100 quite successfully using my Nexus 6P, a Nexus tablet or from any CHROME browser on any PC on my Network.
You might check whether KODI is Chromecast enabled. If not you can still cast a phone screen directly to any Chromecast. In this case the stream is not handed off directly to the Chromecast and the phone output is always active. In the case of a Chromecast enabled App. the stream is handed off and the phone or tablet becomes a remote only and is useful for other activities.

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Yep...my TV fortunately is ARC-enabled so it worked out.

Now, if only I could figure out how to stream programming from Kodi on my PC to my TV...whew!
Specifically, what type of content are you trying to stream?

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I don't use KODI but use JRiver. I stream to Chromecasts on both an 889 and 2100 quite successfully using my Nexus 6P, a Nexus tablet or from any CHROME browser on any PC on my Network.
You might check whether KODI is Chromecast enabled. If not you can still cast a phone screen directly to any Chromecast. In this case the stream is not handed off directly to the Chromecast and the phone output is always active. In the case of a Chromecast enabled App. the stream is handed off and the phone or tablet becomes a remote only and is useful for other activities.

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I want to stream whatever I can capture off of Kodi, e.g., movies, tv shows, etc, i.e., live tv.

I'm getting a Roku stick next week as a promotional gift and understand I can mirror to that from my phone, but like Chromecast, that renders the device useless while mirroring. Kodi is not Chromecast-enabled as far as I know. This might push me to an Amazon Fire Stick which I know I can sideload Kodi to.
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Specifically, what type of content are you trying to stream?
Whatever I can stream through Kodi, so live tv is the important one, but movies, too.
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Unhappy I think I've had it!!

I really think I've just about had it with Denon's firmware update crap. Like many, I waited many many months for them to finally make the Pandora fix available for my model (AVR-S700W). It finally became available at the end of 2016 (later than their advertised date I might mention), and when it finally came out I updated my AVR-S700W and it's now worse than ever.

The unit will now seldom connect to any online contect (radio or Pandora) now and gets stuck the "Please wait..." message. If it does connect, it'll stream about 5 seconds worth of content before it starts buffering. I am 100% certain it's not my WiFi either as I work in IT and have an excellent access point with perfect signal strength....all verified by testing. Also verified by the fact that this Denon is the only device in my home (among dozens) that has any issue whatsoever. The Denon connects to my WiFi just fine, but after this update, the WiFi performance and online stuff seems utterly. REALLY disappointing and I'm seriously considering selling both of my Denon receivers to switch brands.

I should mentioned that I've done both types of resets on the unit (multiple times), and there's been no improvement. Just horrible streaming performance. Works fine when connected with Ethernet cable.
Anybody else fed up with Denon?...or am I over-reacting? It's all just so darn frustrating.

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Whatever I can stream through Kodi, so live tv is the important one, but movies, too.
The Denon AVR does not render video itself, only audio, so although you can stream MP4 files, for example, only audio is played and passed to an attached TV. As others have implied you need an additional video rendering device for streaming. In my case, the TV itself does the video rendering although I also use Chromecast, Amazon Fire, and Roku devices attached to the AVR to stream content to the TV.

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Lots of great info provided in the first 6 posts of this thread to include information on setting up HDMI(ARC) in post 3.
Later this year I plan to replace the AVR in the home theater probably with the latest and greatest Denon, so I am trying to tune the existing system.

One issue that has been bugging me is the performance of the ceiling speakers. I don’t think those speakers are playing a significant role when playing Atmos DVDs, or at least they are not balanced well with the rest of the system. Yesterday I purchased the movie Sully, turned off all but the ceiling speakers and watched a good deal of the feature.

There is plenty of sound coming from the ceiling; for example, there is a scene where the stewardess is speaking through the intercom in the airplane, and much of the speech comes blaring through the ceiling speakers. However, when I play the movie with all the speakers hooked up, it sounds more like the speech is coming through the center and/or front speakers.

I bumped up the volume on the front height and rear height speakers (11.1 configuration). That may have helped somewhat, but I am still not getting the balance I want. One thing I may try is to install another set of speakers directly over the listening area. I am wired for a third set of speakers, and there are two more sitting in boxes in the attic.

I guess I would call those new speakers front height. Until I purchase an AVR that will drive six ceiling speakers I would put the present front height speakers out of service.

I don’t know; it’s just a thought. Do you have any wisdom on the issue?

Note: since I took this picture, I have moved the rear surrounds further apart, replaced the academys with Kg 1.5's, and moved the surrounds forward from the listening post (lp). The ceiling speakers are as pictured.
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Later this year I plan to replace the AVR in the home theater probably with the latest and greatest Denon, so I am trying to tune the existing system.

One issue that has been bugging me is the performance of the ceiling speakers. I don’t think those speakers are playing a significant role when playing Atmos DVDs, or at least they are not balanced well with the rest of the system. Yesterday I purchased the movie Sully, turned off all but the ceiling speakers and watched a good deal of the feature.

There is plenty of sound coming from the ceiling; for example, there is a scene where the stewardess is speaking through the intercom in the airplane, and much of the speech comes blaring through the ceiling speakers. However, when I play the movie with all the speakers hooked up, it sounds more like the speech is coming through the center and/or front speakers.

I bumped up the volume on the front height and rear height speakers (11.1 configuration). That may have helped somewhat, but I am still not getting the balance I want. One thing I may try is to install another set of speakers directly over the listening area. I am wired for a third set of speakers, and there are two more sitting in boxes in the attic.

I guess I would call those new speakers front height. Until I purchase an AVR that will drive six ceiling speakers I would put the present front height speakers out of service.

I don’t know; it’s just a thought. Do you have any wisdom on the issue?

Note: since I took this picture, I have moved the rear surrounds further apart, replaced the academys with Kg 1.5's, and moved the surrounds forward from the listening post (lp). The ceiling speakers are as pictured.

Your speakers are in the Top Front and Top Rear locations, so I would suggest using those settings vs. FH+RH.
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Your speakers are in the Top Front and Top Rear locations, so I would suggest using those settings vs. FH+RH.
Ok - I will give it a try - thanks!

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I "upgraded" to 3600-0161-6645 a week or so ago on my X2100, and ever since then when I turn it on to watch TV the black bar on the bottom that displays the source, input and sound mode stays on indefinitely until I change the volume or otherwise interact with the receiver in some way. As soon as I do that, the bar is gone and acts normal. I've tried a full hard reset on all of the devices including the X2100 and the problem persists.

Anybody else?

AirPlay connectivity has been spotty since the update. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

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I "upgraded" to 3600-0161-6645 a week or so ago on my X2100, and ever since then when I turn it on to watch TV the black bar on the bottom that displays the source, input and sound mode stays on indefinitely until I change the volume or otherwise interact with the receiver in some way. As soon as I do that, the bar is gone and acts normal. I've tried a full hard reset on all of the devices including the X2100 and the problem persists.

Anybody else?

AirPlay connectivity has been spotty since the update. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
I'm seeing the same thing with the information bar not disappearing on its own. Thank you Denon. Not.
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Thanks for bringing up those devices. You connect your chromecast and Roku directly to the AVR as though it were a device like a dvd or xbox?
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I'm seeing the same thing with the information bar not disappearing on its own. Thank you Denon. Not.
Same here
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i dont remember seeing the info bar since i turned off video processing

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Your speakers are in the Top Front and Top Rear locations, so I would suggest using those settings vs. FH+RH.
I ran audyssey and changed to top front top rear. There is a noticeable difference in the sound coming from the ceiling, although I am going to keep tweaking the top speakers until they are too loud, and then I can back off and bring them in line with the rest of the system.

Thanks for your advice

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