Originally Posted by kbarnes701
...what I find even more disappointing is the way more and more Atmos mixes are being confined to the UHD disk releases.
I agree, though I'd pick a somewhat different word than 'disappointing'
I understand the marketing reasoning behind this, to give the premium sound mix with the premium video and thus add value to the UHD package,
Yes, but my response would probably be more cynical.
As in, they're desperately trying to gather every small factor they can, to boost UHD sales. Certainly upconverts of 2K DI isn't it. There already isn't any reason not to include the Atmos track on the regular BRs, and it would be beneficial to and enjoyable by everyone owning Atmos-equipped AVRs (that they already paid a pretty penny for). I remember when Atmos came out, and there was NO content... and we were all assured that the content would
come. And it has. What we were NOT initially told was that in addition to buying expensive new AVRs, that all (well, almost all) of that promised content would cost us even more. And of course not, because that could have immediately hammered a nail into the whole 'chicken and egg' scenario, before it ever got off the ground.
...but not everyone wants to pay the extra for UHD releases,
Oh, so very true
. Even though I have three 4K-screens, and one faux-4K PJ, I'm not willing to pay the premium for '2K-UHD'. Don't worry though, after all the upconverts have been mined out, the studios will eventually find a way to re-issue real 4K versions (go back to source materials and do proper 4K DI's, maybe even regen'ing the CGI, which is all retained as computer scripts), and sell them all over again.
Sweeeet! (That's assuming that streaming hasn't killed optical media by then.)
...and those of us with PJs may even believe that UHD is not yet 'ready' for the currently available PJs (due to lack of nits).
Oh you nit-picker, you.
But don't forget! There's still WCG! I'm happy to pay significantly extra for every disc, just for that!
It seems a pity that those with Blu-ray 1080p based systems should be denied the pleasures of Atmos sound simply because they currently have no desire for UHD.
Enthusiastic agreement there. I just don't see it changing.
As more and more movies are object mixed, Atmos or DTS:X, maybe this will change as it would seem especially churlish for the distributors to deliberately take the time and effort to downgrade a 'standard' object mix to 5.1 or 7.1 just for the 1080p Blu-ray, effectively crippling the audio performance potential of the movie.
Ah, well. I'm not sure what might lead you to harbor such hopes. They seem very unrealistic to me, and born of wishful thinking.
It's not like the "time and effort to deliberately cripple the audio"
will actually involve much time OR effort. That could be done virtually automatically
, just by leaving the base layer, and stripping off the Atmos meta-data stream. Are you suggesting that they actually now have professionals manually doing separate remixes for BR
, that just use the 5.1/7.1 channels?
[I'm not saying they aren't, because I have no information either way. But I'd be pretty surprised if that were the case.]
But hey, I'm a pessimist (or maybe a pragmatist) and you're an optimist. I hope I'm wrong and you're right.