Originally Posted by kbarnes701
If you can set them up nicely, in accordance with Dolby guidelines (for reflection angle, ceiling type etc) I am sure you will be more happy with them than the alternative of no Atmos at all. Don't be led by naysayers - make up your own mind, in your own room. Upfirers will sound 'different' to on-ceiling speakers, but 'different' is not synonymous with 'inferior'. I have a dedicated cinema so naturally went with on-ceiling speakers, but if I was in a regular living space, I would not feel in the least short-changed by upfirers. More diffuse vs more precise - both have their fans. Please let us know how you get on, and good luck with it.
So, I ran through Audyssey, turned off DynEQ and played around with the demo disc a bit. At first, I wasn't really hearing things overhead like you would expect. Then I snagged my old MoPads out of the garage and used them to raise the Pioneers up a bit and angle them slightly forward (because my seating is further back than the sweet spot of the bounce seemed to be). That definitely got me a sense of overhead sound, though certainly not as precise as my old setup. Still, in the demo that has the musical notes overhead in an arc, it placed things surprisingly well.
I do have a few concerns as far as tweaking goes. My Denon set the Pioneers to a 120Hz crossover... but I thought upfirers needed to be crossed over around 180Hz or so per Dolby. Unfortunately, my only options above that are 150Hz and 200Hz. I set it to 150Hz and it seemed to clean overhead sounds up. I'm curious as to what I should be doing here or if it's even that crucial.
Additionally, as far as distance/delay goes... How is the Audyssey mic even measuring that if the intent is to measure the sound bounced off the ceiling rather than from the speaker itself? The distances it measured came out about the same as the distances to the mains they're sitting on (both measured 0.2 ft more than my mains). Is this something people are finding needs to be tweaked with the Dolby Enabled speakers?
After fiddling with the demo disc for a bit, I rewatched Hacksaw Ridge at volume, listening for those scary overhead whizzes of the mortar fire. There is definitely a larger overall sound with the upfirers, so I'm calling it a win no matter what. I like the more generalized sound, actually... though it doesn't have the "oomph" that my in-ceiling setup had. I just feel like further tweaking may be necessary.