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In terms of quality Atmos, I'd put Ready Player One, Star Trek:Into Darkness, Jumanji, Coco, and Oblivion ahead of both of those two films.

If you have heard them on a system that is >7.1.4 then Blade Runner 2049 and Gravity are still pretty much at the top of the heap.
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If you have heard them on a system that is >7.1.4 then Blade Runner 2049 and Gravity are still pretty much at the top of the heap.
It's really unfortunate that there are some otherwise reference quality Atmos mixes that don't really scale well to higher channel count speaker layouts. Such a waste of the promise of Atmos.

Ready Player One is often mentioned as top-tier Atmos mix (and it is) but there is barely anything in the wides. The Saving Private Ryan 4K Atmos remix is also phenomenal, however it's actually a 7.1.2 fixed mix so if you play it on a 9.1.4, 7.1.6, or 9.1.6 speaker layout you're getting a big bucket of silence from several speakers.
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It's really unfortunate that there are some otherwise reference quality Atmos mixes that don't really scale well to higher channel count speaker layouts. Such a waste of the promise of Atmos.

Ready Player One is often mentioned as top-tier Atmos mix (and it is) but there is barely anything in the wides. The Saving Private Ryan 4K Atmos remix is also phenomenal, however it's actually a 7.1.2 fixed mix so if you play it on a 9.1.4, 7.1.6, or 9.1.6 speaker layout you're getting a big bucket of silence from several speakers.

Yup. I think Dolby needs to send a lot of audio engineers back to Atmos school.

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If you have heard them on a system that is >7.1.4 then Blade Runner 2049 and Gravity are still pretty much at the top of the heap.
I'd add a few other movies, offhand - Star Trek: Into Darkness, Unbroken (opening bombing scene uses everything in my 11.x.6 setup), Fury, War for the Planet of the Apes, Red Sparrow, Mad Max: Fury Road, The Matrix Reloaded, as well as Overlord and The House with a Clock on Its Walls to that list.
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In terms of quality Atmos, I'd put Ready Player One, Star Trek:Into Darkness, Jumanji, Coco, and Oblivion ahead of both of those two films.

If you have heard them on a system that is >7.1.4 then Blade Runner 2049 and Gravity are still pretty much at the top of the heap.
I have a 7.2.4 dedicated roomroom.

Blade Runner 2049 is tremendous for bass, but that isn't what "Atmos" really is about. Same with John Wick. There are a few moments in Blade Runner that are really good, and it's a good reference.

Gravity has a lot of traveling voices panning around, but not as effectively as Star Trek: Into Darkness in my opinion.

Jumanji is incredibly effective, as is Oblivion.

Even The Revenant uses the heights very well with DSU, and it's not even Atmos. I love the steps above you in the fort at the end.
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I'd add a few other movies, offhand - Star Trek: Into Darkness, Unbroken (opening bombing scene uses everything in my 11.x.6 setup), Fury, War for the Planet of the Apes, Red Sparrow, Mad Max: Fury Road, The Matrix Reloaded, as well as Overlord and The House with a Clock on Its Walls to that list.

Thanks for the recommendations! How about the original The Matrix?

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Thanks for the recommendations! How about the original The Matrix?
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You are referring to the 1080p Blu Ray correct? Can you provide a link (amazon perhaps?) so I snag the right disc? I loved the film in theater in 3D. It blew my mind and really showed current 3D capability. I saw it in XD 3d or whatever it's called and was very impressed.


If I’m not mistaken, I seem to recall the atmos track is only on the diamond luxe version. Not %though...
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If I’m not mistaken, I seem to recall the atmos track is only on the diamond luxe version. Not %though...
The Diamond Deluxe BluRay (2D) is the one I have with Atmos.

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The Diamond Deluxe BluRay (2D) is the one I have with Atmos.


My regular BD is 5.1. I have the diamond deluxe version in my list but it keeps sliding down unfortunately...
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If I’m not mistaken, I seem to recall the atmos track is only on the diamond luxe version. Not %though...
The Diamond Deluxe BluRay (2D) is the one I have with Atmos.
I'll probably have to wait for the inevitable 4k Blu-ray. It'll more than likely end up being cheaper than the out of print Diamond Luxe version.

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I'll probably have to wait for the inevitable 4k Blu-ray. It'll more than likely end up being cheaper than the out of print Diamond Luxe version.


Lol! Good point. Think I’ll join you in waiting...
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You are referring to the 1080p Blu Ray correct? Can you provide a link (amazon perhaps?) so I snag the right disc? I loved the film in theater in 3D. It blew my mind and really showed current 3D capability. I saw it in XD 3d or whatever it's called and was very impressed.


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FWIW, Gravity on iTunes has the Dolby Atmos track. Though I can't say how it compares to the disc version. I am disc all the way for my movies, but I did have this movie in my iTunes library and it was one of the ones that got upgraded to Atmos.
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How close are your rear surrounds to your MLP? They look a lot closer then usually recommended....
Do you know the dimension of my room? How about how many feet between the wall and the seat? The pictures I posted for him were for him to get an idea on brackets and their placement since he is in the same boat, not for you to critique my HT. You should refrain from critiques on here unless you know all room dimensions, etc. I mentioned that room is under construction, that single seat won't be in there much longer and when I took the picture nothing was even connected yet to the AVR. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/IMG]
Buddy, relax, why are you getting so defensive? I asked a question exactly as I posed it-because it looked closer then guidelines. Of course I don’t know the dimensions of your room—-that’s why I asked you!

The reason I asked-inspite of you trying to get in my head and make assumptions-was not to critique.

I was actually hoping originally of doing a 7.1.4 but instead settled on a 5.1.4 instead due to what I read on forums like this.

I asked because, if somehow you had it much closer and was willing to share the specs and experience I may have thought about revisiting the viability of rear surrounds in my somewhat close placement behind my couch.

In conclusion, sometimes a straight forward question is just that...a straight forward question.
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Buddy, relax, why are you getting so defensive? I asked a question exactly as I posed it-because it looked closer then guidelines.
I've seen a lot of diagrams with angles, but never dimensions to the speakers.
So when you say "closer than guidelines"... may I ask who's guidelines you are referencing?

This is one of the most common Dolby layouts for 7.1.4



Take care of the angles and let your processors room correction set the delay/distance and output levels,
adequate channel separation is the most critical factor in speaker placement.
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FWIW, Gravity on iTunes has the Dolby Atmos track. Though I can't say how it compares to the disc version. I am disc all the way for my movies, but I did have this movie in my iTunes library and it was one of the ones that got upgraded to Atmos.
When I check Itunes i only see 5.1 for gravity. But I'm in Norway so maybe it's a regional thing.
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When I check Itunes i only see 5.1 for gravity. But I'm in Norway so maybe it's a regional thing.
I swear I watched it in iTunes a few months ago on my Apple TV in Dolby Atmos. But I just looked at the movie on my iPhone in the Apple TV app and it doesn't mention Atmos. Though other movies in my library I own that I am 100% sure have Atmos do say so with the Atmos logo on the movie page. Hmmm.
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FWIW, Gravity on iTunes has the Dolby Atmos track. Though I can't say how it compares to the disc version. I am disc all the way for my movies, but I did have this movie in my iTunes library and it was one of the ones that got upgraded to Atmos.
iTunes delivers the lossy DD+Atmos but on disc you get the lossless TrueHD+Atmos...
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iTunes delivers the lossy DD+Atmos but on disc you get the lossless TrueHD+Atmos...
When I said I wasn't sure how it compares to the disc version, I meant content-wise, not so much it being lossy vs lossless. I don't know much about the Atmos tracks on iTunes content, as in are they the same as what is on a disc, just lossy vs lossless or are they actually different mixes. (They are likely the same, now that I think about it more.)

I just wanted to mention that people may have a cheaper way to get access to Gravity in Atmos since the Diamond Luxe Blu-ray can be hard to find/expensive. I know the iTunes version isn't ideal, but it's an option. I did check on my Apple TV last night and my digital version of Gravity is indeed in Atmos.
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When I said I wasn't sure how it compares to the disc version, I meant content-wise, not so much it being lossy vs lossless.
OK. There is just a single Atmos version of that movie.
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I just wanted to mention that people may have a cheaper way to get access to Gravity in Atmos since the Diamond Luxe Blu-ray can be hard to find/expensive. I know the iTunes version isn't ideal, but it's an option. I did check on my Apple TV last night and my digital version of Gravity is indeed in Atmos.

If you have $8.99 to spare, you can rent it here (price includes two-way USPS shipping):

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Stu - Spider-Verse is SO GOOD, it's on the short list of consideration for best comic movies of all time. Tons of fun, lots of humor, great sound, great music, groundbreaking visuals/animation. If you haven't seen it yet you should, and I bet the little man will love it too.
I’ll ask the boss (my five year old). But he’s more of a space movie kind of guy than a Spiderman kind of guy for immersive audio, meaning First Man, Gravity and Apollo 13. And the new Apollo 11 BD, but that’s merely 2D audio.

BTW he’s also a fan of movies with moving slime, meaning Ghostbusters II and Mockingjay: Part 2, both in Atmos 😜 .
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It begins. Et tu, Sony?
We watched Black Hawk Down from Sony last night. It’s legacy, so no theatrical Atmos mix as a basis for a consumer A/V Atmos release, but everything lights up on the I/O meters. The opening scene after the background history with the helicopter flyover gets the wides and my front side surrounds (SS1) going, and later scenes bring in the L/R (screen) centers. But in a .6 height setup it seems to put a lot of the overhead content into the Top Middles and expands at times into the front and rear tops.

Definitely worth the Bass EQ extra filters if you’ve the capability with your subs and processing. And the battle scenes are as good as I remember.
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It’s legacy, so no theatrical Atmos mix, but everything lights up on the I/O meters.
Let's hope the Atmos remix of Apocalypse Now takes as much advantage of the format.
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We watched Black Hawk Down from Sony last night. It’s legacy, so no theatrical Atmos mix, but everything lights up on the I/O meters. The opening scene after the background history with the helicopter flyover gets the wides and my front side surrounds (SS1) going, and later scenes bring in the L/R (screen) centers. But in a .6 height setup it seems to put a lot of the overhead content into the Top Middles and expands at times into the front and rear tops.

Definitely worth the Bass EQ extra filters if you’ve the capability with your subs and processing. And the battle scenes are as good as I remember.
Although the Blackhawk Down UHD 4K disc contains an Atmos audio mix. Curious are there any movies on bluray or 4K UHD disc that contain a theatrical Atmos mix?.

https://images4.static-bluray.com/mo...g?t=1551250144

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Curious are there any movies on bluray or 4K UHD disc that contain a theatrical Atmos mix?
Very unlikely - the theatre dimensions, layout and the number of speakers are different, so a remix based on the theatrical is obligatory.
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Can I check if you can do a mix of
Say Top Front (An Atmos position) with Rear Height (a DTS position?)

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