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As far I know, the calendars haven't all been changed by some mysterious force.

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... superiority depends on preference: whether you prefer your ambience generated or extracted.
Realistically recreated. ...Spatially engulfing.
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As far I know, the calendars haven't all been changed by some mysterious force.
He's Canadian so cut him some slack. [j/k]

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As far I know, the calendars haven't all been changed by some mysterious force.
Then we should know more about them Dolby Atmos Blu-ray movie titles.
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Then we should know more about them Dolby Atmos Blu-ray movie titles.
Is it Monday yet??? No wait, I still have to watch the Broncos game tonight. Dang it!

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Superior only IF you prefer that type of surround processing.

User reports indicate that Auromatic adds reverb that wasn't in the soundtrack, the same way that Yamaha DSP modes do (or the way Audyssey adds early side wall and proscenium reflections based on concert hall acoustics). By comparison, Dolby Surround does its upmixing by extracting info from the soundtrack itself, like how DTS Neo:X and Dolby PLIIz operate.

So, superiority depends on preference: whether you prefer your ambience generated or extracted.
As I said I want to keep my options open until I was able to compare the same material on the same setupI can neither say I like it due to the statements I on the IFA nor can I say I dislike it due to your statement! I just don't think Auro should be neglected and therefore I wrote the speaker Layout guide!

...and maybe it is even more complex and one movie sounds better with Auromatic and one with Dolby Surround, who kniws?
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He's Canadian so cut him some slack. [j/k]
It's Spring time in Canada since they are on the other side of the equator.....it's probably like March 23rd down there.
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What does Auro plan to do for those that can't mount ceiling speakers?

Dolby Atmos Enabled speakers (will) allow many of us to enjoy Dolby Atmos and the Dolby Surround Upmixer.
As they are "only" using heights and no in ceiling speakers I would think it is easier to comply with their layout, AFAIK there is no real alternative to tge height speakers.
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He's Canadian so cut him some slack. [j/k]
Blame Canada!

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I'm in the same boat. "CeilingMax" ceiling system, with the cavities in the joists above full of duct work and heavily insulated. I'll be "experimenting" by repurposing my formerly stand-mounted bookshelf Axiom Audio M22s. Far from optimal I know, but if it provides "some" improvement, it will suffice until I can fashion a better solution.
If you were willing to forego the two chotchkes sitting on your L/R tower mains you could easily place a squarish Atmos module (like the AT ones) on top of your towers. IMO that would be preferably to trying to bounce speakers up off the top of the huge wall unit.
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Happy that I could be a help. I was asking the same question to Auro yesterday and the answer was that they also have contracts with a lot of major Hollywood studios! I remember back in 1997 I bought a Millenium 2*4*6. If someone remembers, it was the first standalone DTS decoder.Everybody laughed at me and said DTS wouldn't have a future. Especially as back in these days you had to buy specific Laser Discs that were DTS only, so without a DTS decoder no playback possible. Now look at DTS 17 years later...

Anyway even if it does not succeed as a native format, I heard lots of raving reviews on their upmixer Auromatic being way superior to Dolby Surround! I just want to keep my options open
Yes I remember, I also had one of those DTS decoders'
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Yes I remember, I also had one of those DTS decoders'
I still do. Maybe a museum might want it.
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Superior only IF you prefer that type of surround processing.

User reports indicate that Auromatic adds reverb that wasn't in the soundtrack, the same way that Yamaha DSP modes do (or the way Audyssey adds early side wall and proscenium reflections based on concert hall acoustics). By comparison, Dolby Surround does its upmixing by extracting info from the soundtrack itself, like how DTS Neo:X and Dolby PLIIz operate.

So, superiority depends on preference: whether you prefer your ambience generated or extracted.
OMG. I hate that. As you know, I really dislike DSX and much prefer PLIIz or Neo:X. I'm for extracting from the soundtrack not creating stuff that was never there to start with. Nonetheless I will leave my old Height speakers in place and try Auromatic if/when I can. Terrible name. Sounds like some cheap gizmo from the 70s.
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What does Auro plan to do for those that can't mount ceiling speakers?

Dolby Atmos Enabled speakers (will) allow many of us to enjoy Dolby Atmos and the Dolby Surround Upmixer.
Good question. The genius of home Atmos, for me, is that people can enjoy it without (apparently) adding any more speakers to their room - a highly WAF friendly solution. The No 1 objection to any new system, as far as WAF is concerned, must be "I do not want any more speakers in the room!". Atmos-enabled speakers allow for the Atmos experience and, as far as WAF is concerned, there's exactly the same number of speakers as there was with the old 5.1 or 7.1 setup.

I can’t see a multi-speaker format gaining acceptance in the marketplace if it requires speakers to be physically mounted on the ceiling, walls etc.
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...and maybe it is even more complex and one movie sounds better with Auromatic and one with Dolby Surround, who knows?
That's a funny word to describe 3D surround sound; "auromatic".
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It's Spring time in Canada since they are on the other side of the equator.....it's probably like March 23rd down there.
Summer time; 36° Celsius. ...September 07, 2014. ...Vancouver Island, right by Victoria.
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If you were willing to forego the two chotchkes sitting on your L/R tower mains you could easily place a squarish Atmos module (like the AT ones) on top of your towers. IMO that would be preferably to trying to bounce speakers up off the top of the huge wall unit.
On the list as a future option. Going to go with the "no cost" (aside from receiver purchase) experiment first. ;-)

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That's a funny word to describe 3D surround sound; "auromatic".
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It's Spring time in Canada since they are on the other side of the equator.....it's probably like March 23rd down there.
Your just joking right Canada is north of Cincinnati Ohio the last I looked they are above the U.S.

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Your just joking right Canada is north of Cincinnati Ohio the last I looked they are above the U.S.
Of course I was joking fellas. I was hoping my post was so silly that it was self-evident
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Oh Canada...

Its snowing 4 hours north of me and the weather man said I'm next.
We expect it late tonight.

Its a good (guilt free) time to have a HT.

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Canada is a more "elevated" country (higher up on the map); perfect for Dolby Atmos experience.
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Its snowing 4 hours north of me and the weather man said I'm next.
We expect it late tonight.

Its a good (guilt free) time to have a HT.
Last time I saw snow was last Christmas when I was back home in Montreal the snow was falling from above a real atmos moment but very quiet.

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I can neither say I like it due to the statements I on the IFA nor can I say I dislike it due to your statement!
Wasn't asking you to like or dislike it, just addressing the notion of one being "superior" to the other when comparing two different types of surround processing.

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