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All of my HDMI cables are newer High Speed. When trouble shooting a problem, cable replacement with another high speed HDMI is first.

I am not sure what the network save/load feature are but I will read up and give that a shot. It did freeze today during normal TV watching so it's not always when switching the Tivo.

Thanks for the suggestions!
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I am not sure what the network save/load feature are but I will read up and give that a shot. It did freeze today during normal TV watching so it's not always when switching the Tivo.

Thanks for the suggestions!
The detailed procedure using Chrome was done by jdsmoothie in the 2013 Denon thread here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-rec...l#post23775592 in post number 2775. If you're using internet explorer, the detailed procedure is in post number 3.

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jdsmoothie,

I have a feeling in the stomache that Marantz has stopped making the 5-channel line of slimline receivers. I.e. Marantz wont be releasing the NR-1505 this year and if someone wants the 5-channel version, they'll have to get last year's version.

Correct me if this line of thinking is wrong.

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^^jdsmoothie,

Thanks for the clarification.

Would like your thoughts of consolidating non-Atmos Marantz receivers for 2014 into this thread. I don't see a separate thread for the SR-5009 and SR-6009. Thinking that there must be owners / potential owner can ask questions here.

Will change thread title and revise the fist 5 posts accordingly.

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Can anyone point me to a document or website that lists out exactly the new features in the 1605 versus last year's 1604? The only thing I can really find is built-in Wifi in 1605.

I'm a little disappointed to see in this thread, the Amazon reviews, and the Crutchfield reviews all have comments from people complaining of freeze-ups and other similar issues. If there is no compelling reason to go with the new model, maybe I'll see if I can find a discounted or used 1604.
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People with issues tend to comment more so than people with no issues. Not too mention of the 5 reviews on Crutchfield, only 1 mentions freezing.


NR1605 vs NR1604:
Built-in WiFi/Bluetooth; 1 extra HDMI input, 4k/60fps upscale/pass through on all HDMI inputs, Smart Select buttons on the remote (similar to Quick Select on Denon), 4-6 ohm impedance setting, ECO Mode, ISF Day/Night setting

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People with issues tend to comment more so than people with no issues.


NR1605 vs NR1604:
Built-in WiFi/Bluetooth; 1 extra HDMI input, 4k/60fps upscale/pass through on all HDMI inputs, Smart Select buttons on the remote (similar to Quick Select on Denon), 4-6 ohm impedance setting, ECO Mode, ISF Day/Night setting
Thanks much jdsmoothie! Great info, appreciate the comparison specs you posted.

I am aware about the "review bias" towards complaints and certainly take that with a grain of salt, but it is unfortunate that there are so many early comments about issues. "Where there's smoke there's fire", so to speak. I haven't been able to find a full professional review yet of this model anywhere online.
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Bottom line, just make sure you buy from an authorized dealer with a 30 day exchange policy.
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Does anyone know how to change the thread title? It doesn't seem to follow the heading of the 1st post anymore. Does it need special permission or a request to a moderator to change the thread title?

Thanks.

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As my friend who got the Porsche said: "Xxxx it, we only live once!".

Going all 4k HDMI 7.1 in my home office, implse buys are NR1605, Seiki SE39UY04,
Lenovo K450e - 57328, and a Harmony Smart Keyboard. Speakers are Malaysian Panasonic
bookshelves, LFE 75Hz. Less than 2K, distressed packaging on receiver took me 200 off.

One week later the receiver is still a champ, watched some 4k DD+ material online, absolutely great visual and surround experience. Very pleased, I believe at this size and feature level it has no competitors.

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Pending an "Official" SR5009 thread...

Is anyone using a SR5009, streaming DSD via a NAS on a wired network (.dsf files)? Will the SR5009 play the .dsf's in multichannel? How does the sound/function of the DAC in this Marantz compare to others (like in an OPPO 105D)? TY!!
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The 2014 Marantz models support DSD playback via network or USB. Some details for 2014 non-Atmos Marantz models are here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-rec...rs-thread.html

For the SR5009, refer to page 241 of the owner's manual. There appears to be support for multi-channel DSD playback on page 123 of SR5009 owner's manual. You may want to post the question to current owners of the SR5009.

The Oppo plays back DSD via the analogue outputs that can go into the multi-channel inputs of the SR5009. Note that for this connection there would be no Audyssey room equalisation and would sound very different compared with MultiEQ ON.
Good info, thanks. I do not use the Audyssey, mostly Pure Direct. I currently have a Marantz UD5005, where the manual states that it will output DSD to DSD-capable devises via hdmi. So it sounds like I CAN get pure (multi-channel) DSD thru my universal player and the network-attached NAS. Sound correct?
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Good info, thanks. I do not use the Audyssey, mostly Pure Direct. I currently have a Marantz UD5005, where the manual states that it will output DSD to DSD-capable devises via hdmi. So it sounds like I CAN get pure (multi-channel) DSD thru my universal player and the network-attached NAS. Sound correct?
I would check with jdsmoothie on this one or an owner of the SR5009 can do a test and verify. The tables at the back of the SR5009 owner's manual doesn't explicitly say there is DSD support for multi-channel playback.

Compared to the SR7009 where there is explicit support in the surround and playback tables.

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Good info, thanks. I do not use the Audyssey, mostly Pure Direct. I currently have a Marantz UD5005, where the manual states that it will output DSD to DSD-capable devises via hdmi. So it sounds like I CAN get pure (multi-channel) DSD thru my universal player and the network-attached NAS. Sound correct?
DSD over HDMI is a feature offered only on the SR6009 and higher models.
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While using the mobile app I don't have the spotify icon on zone 2 so I can't choose spotify directly on zone 2. I have to select it on the main zone and then I can choose ¨Source¨on zone 2 to get spotify on that zone.

In my 7008 I can see the spotify icon on all zones.

Is this normal? looks like an app bug to me. My dealer said that its a bug ... but my dealer knows nothing.

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Likely normal and not a bug. Spotify Connect on the new 2014 models (unlike Spotify on the previous models) now reacts like Airplay apparently in that it must first be selected in the main zone and then can be selected for Zone 2.
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Likely normal and not a bug. Spotify Connect on the new 2014 models (unlike Spotify on the previous models) now reacts like Airplay apparently in that it must first be selected in the main zone and then can be selected for Zone 2.
You're right I think. Thanks
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emassu,

As advised by jdsmoothie in the 2013 Marantz thread, since you've got both the SR7008 as well as the NR1605, if you have both receivers connected to the same network, would be a simple to run Spotify to the NR1605 from your mobile device. Just select the NR1605 as the set of speakers in the available list of options when you're using AirPlay.

You wont need to specially configure the SR7008 or even turn it on.

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Thanks much jdsmoothie! Great info, appreciate the comparison specs you posted.

I am aware about the "review bias" towards complaints and certainly take that with a grain of salt, but it is unfortunate that there are so many early comments about issues. "Where there's smoke there's fire", so to speak. I haven't been able to find a full professional review yet of this model anywhere online.
I returned my first unit to Best Buy because of this freezing problem and my replacement unit is having the same problem (I will be returning it as well, this time for a refund). Coincidentally, another customer standing behind me in the BB customer service line said he was experiencing the same problem! Marantz needs to figure out what the problem is and fix it. Suggesting various "reset" fixes (which do not work) is not going to cut it. I really like the unit when it is working properly, but in this case, where there is smoke there IS fire.
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I returned my first unit to Best Buy because of this freezing problem and my replacement unit is having the same problem (I will be returning it as well, this time for a refund). Coincidentally, another customer standing behind me in the BB customer service line said he was experiencing the same problem! Marantz needs to figure out what the problem is and fix it. Suggesting various "reset" fixes (which do not work) is not going to cut it. I really like the unit when it is working properly, but in this case, where there is smoke there IS fire.
Hi John,

Welcome to AVS!

I see that you made a one star review on Amazon. Sorry to hear about getting two lemons in a row from Best Buy, getting one is bad enough.

If you're still interested on a slime line receiver from Marantz, call jdsmoothie for a quote on last year's model, the NR-1604. There's not much of a difference between the 2013 to 2014 units. See post 1 for the minor differences. There's generally been less issues with the NR-1604.

Also, you may get a better price on the previous year unit and since you've got the refund for the NR-1605, you can pocket the difference from AVS.

AVS Science is an authorized Marantz reseller, so you're good to go with any warranty issues/returns.

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I'm doing some research about slim receivers, and I've found the NR1605, which seems very good spec wise.

The height is fine, but the problem is the 14-29/64" depth. With today flat TVs, small bookshelf speakers, and 8"depth bluray players, the only equipment that is preventing us from having a shallow HT furniture is the AV receiver.

So I think Marantz should release a super slim receiver, with 10" or at most 11"depth.

It could be a 5.1 unit (people with small room will not need 7.1), and they could take out all the analog connections. I only need 5 HDMI in, USB, and the speakers and subwoofer connections.

Take out composite video, component video, analog audio in, 2 zone, and make it very shallow.

I'm sure there's a large public for a product like this, specially among young people that don't have legacy equipment and take good looking as a priority.
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I'm doing some research about slim receivers, and I've found the NR1605, which seems very good spec wise.

The height is fine, but the problem is the 14-29/64" depth. With today flat TVs, small bookshelf speakers, and 8"depth bluray players, the only equipment that is preventing us from having a shallow HT furniture is the AV receiver.

So I think Marantz should release a super slim receiver, with 10" or at most 11"depth.

It could be a 5.1 unit (people with small room will not need 7.1), and they could take out all the analog connections. I only need 5 HDMI in, USB, and the speakers and subwoofer connections.

Take out composite video, component video, analog audio in, 2 zone, and make it very shallow.

I'm sure there's a large public for a product like this, specially among young people that don't have legacy equipment and take good looking as a priority.
Hi bugrezilla,

Welcome to AVS!

I have the 5.1 slim line receiver from Marantz (NR-1504) and the depth is about the same. If you're after a lifestyle type of system, look into B&O as they would be a better option and they have affluent pricing to match. Another option is Bose.

The lifestyle options from B&O/Bose and the like will have limited features and this is the reason for going with Marantz/Denon/Yamaha/Onkyo/Anthem, etc. These offer a lot more for the money. The main reason for going with a receiver is the feature set so choose based on this.

If you have the ability to 'hide' the receiver in a cabinet or another room, this would remove the size issue.

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I turned on my 1605 this morning and saw a firmware update was available. I downloaded it and will take it for a drive. It has not locked up on me in a few weeks so it may be a while for me to see if the firmware helps. Not sure what the firmware includes though. JD? I'll stick with this receiver though. I like it.
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Firmware Changelog Update

1) The NR1605 does not hold the entered "Wired" network menu option after loss of power. When there is a power outage to the NR1605, router and any network switch in the application when power is restored the NR1605 defaults to the "Wireless" network menu option. When the router and switch complete their boot up sequence the NR1605 doesn’t see this connection.
2) Even if the command of Power ON is input to "Flasher IN" when the set is Standby, the set is not turned on.
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Everywhere? I see 3 of only 6 reviews on Amazon that mention the issue. Hardly indicative of a global problem. What you don't see are the many owners that have no reason to post as there is no problem with their units.
my brand new SR 5009, likes to freeze maybe 5 time in 1 hour, only happens when using HDMI.. if i use my PS4 via optical cabel= never freeze.. but with the HDMI it like freezing all the time.
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my brand new SR 5009, likes to freeze maybe 5 time in 1 hour, only happens when using HDMI.. if i use my PS4 via optical cabel= never freeze.. but with the HDMI it like freezing all the time.
The first thing I would recommend, if you haven't tried it already, is just swap out the HDMI cable. I've run across some that for whatever reason just didn't like certain combinations of hardware in the chain, and swapping it has fixed it. Also, if you have any HDMI converter or adapter boxes, or even little HDMI port extender dongles, remove them. It would at least rule out connection issues.
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my brand new SR 5009, likes to freeze maybe 5 time in 1 hour, only happens when using HDMI.. if i use my PS4 via optical cabel= never freeze.. but with the HDMI it like freezing all the time.
Do a SAVE/LOAD procedure so all your settings on the SR5009 are saved to a PC and can be re-loaded. If you want to use Chrome browser, the post written by jdsmoothie is here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-rec...l#post23775592

After confirmation of the above, reset the microprocessor as shown in page 233 of the SR5009 owner's manual. jdsmoothie recommends 4 to 5 times to be sure.

Re-load your save settings from the PC.

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My apologies if this has been covered, I've been searching...

does the NR-1605 upscale a composite legacy video input and output it over the HDMI to the monitor?

Are there any features that the SR5008 has that the NR1605 doesn't?

Answers to those questions may tip me one way or another in a purchasing decision.
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Yes, the NR1605 can convert analog --> HDMI, however, the SR5008 features double the wattage, a full set of 7.2 pre-outs and 7.1 multi analog inputs as well as the better version of Audyssey MultEQ XT.
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