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post #11821 of 11826 Old 08-12-2019, 07:20 AM
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Dumb question of the day: I got an email from Denon today about their new receivers, and included is a blurb saying "Upgrade to Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Technology" which purports to "creat an enveloping surround sound audio experience--without the addition of height channels".

Does the added-cost Aura upgrade that I believe is available for my X7200WA provide this "virtualization"? I have never paid any attention to it because I believed it required added speakers that I do not have.
No, rather Auro 3D is simply a 3rd 3D audio codec in addition to Atmos and DTS:X, all of which would require height speakers in place to best experience their respective technologies.

Note however, that Audyssey XT32 on your X7200WA has dropped down to the X3000 series (eg. X3600H), not to mention the new 2019 X3600H which was just released now features 9CH and also an IMAX Enhanced DTS:X decoder. The "H" series models also feature a HEOS module which allows Alexa voice control.
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No, rather Auro 3D is simply a 3rd 3D audio codec in addition to Atmos and DTS:X, all of which would require height speakers in place to best experience their respective technologies.

Note however, that Audyssey XT32 on your X7200WA has dropped down to the X3000 series (eg. X3600H), not to mention the new 2019 X3600H which was just released now features 9CH and also an IMAX Enhanced DTS:X decoder. The "H" series models also feature a HEOS module which allows Alexa voice control.
Thanks so much for explaining—it’s often very difficult (for me anyway) to make practical sense of all the jargon.

I am happy with my (now old-style) speaker setup, and the 7200; but I was willing to consider the Aura thing if it meant “no additional speakers needed!”
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Can anyone explain or provide link to an explanation about Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Technology is. I am running the 7200WA with 4 height channels. I thought the DTS and the Atmos up mixer derived height channels if they weren't present.

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Can anyone explain or provide link to an explanation about Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Technology is. I am running the 7200WA with 4 height channels. I thought the DTS and the Atmos up mixer derived height channels if they weren't present.
Your X7200WA doesn't support this feature, so it's sort of a moot point.

But virtualization is different from upmixing. The point of virtualization is to use special processing to "fake" sound from speakers that aren't there, whereas upmixers extract sound to extra speakers that ARE there.

So for example if you had a standard 7.1 speaker layout without any height speakers, the virtualizer could "fake" the presence of height speakers by taking the overhead signal and applying some special sauce processing to try and trick your brain into perceiving sounds from above.

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Your X7200WA doesn't support this feature, so it's sort of a moot point.

But virtualization is different from upmixing. The point of virtualization is to use special processing to "fake" sound from speakers that aren't there, whereas upmixers extract sound to extra speakers that ARE there.

So for example if you had a standard 7.1 speaker layout without any height speakers, the virtualizer could "fake" the presence of height speakers by taking the overhead signal and applying some special sauce processing to try and trick your brain into perceiving sounds from above.
Thanks for the explanation. My take then is that if you have actual height speakers then there is not benefit having a processor that supports this.
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Thanks for the explanation. My take then is that if you have actual height speakers then there is not benefit having a processor that supports this.
Absolutely. It's exactly analogous to a "virtual surround" setup where you just have a soundbar or speakers up front and the processor does some special sauce processing to make it sound more like surround sound. It will never be good as actual surround sound with physical speakers where the sound is supposed to come from.

Think of this as a "lowest common denominator" option for people who want to experience some kind of "Atmos-like" effect but absolutely cannot / will not use height speakers.

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