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New Denon x2000 AVR runs super hot after only a short time. Anyone else had this prob

Just got the Denon x2000 from crutchfeild and I've noticed the top gets really hot after only a short time of use.


I am going to put it on a shelf in my component closet and I'm worried this thing will overheat and fry eventually. I was torn between this and the Yamaha v675, both are $400.


I can send it back for a refund since I just got it like two weeks ago, but before I do I was wondering if I am just overreacting.
It is running my BenQ w1070, cable box, ps3, and right now only three bookshelf speakers.


Will it get worse when I get my entire 5.1 set up to it?

Has anyone else had one of these overheat on them?


I bought it over the Yamaha cause it was from crutchfeild, who has a great return policy, and I read the speaker calibration software for the Denon was superior to the Yamaha.


What should I do?

Thanks!
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Most likely there's nothing wrong with your receiver -- if it's not confined in a tight cabinet with low air circulation. Often times the higher models do get warmer with their better DAC. If you have a subwoofer, set your front speakers to small and crossover to 80hz.

My definition of "hot" is that you cannot place your palm on top parts of the receiver for more than 10 seconds without feeling a burn.

I was at Best Buy the other week and I checked the temperture of every high-end receiver that way -- just for kicks. The Denon x2100, x3100 and x4100 were "hot" tamales while the x1100 ran warm. The same went for the Pioneer Elites and Marantz models. Only the lowest model ran warm while the rest ran hot. Moreover, these were all on idle.
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It's not the DACs that get hot... It's the HDMI/Graphics processors that really get hot...

If it's not a BIG screen, it's not a theater...
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With adequate ventilation around the X2000 and running 8-ohm speakers of moderate efficiency (ie 87db+) the unit should only feel warm at best with the bulk of the heat coming from the video card as Jon notes.

Also note there is a dedicated thread for the 2013 Denon models ..... review posts #3-6 in that thread for additional helpful information.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-rec...hread-faq.html

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Most likely there's nothing wrong with your receiver -- if it's not confined in a tight cabinet with low air circulation. Often times the higher models do get warmer with their better DAC. If you have a subwoofer, set your front speakers to small and crossover to 80hz.

My definition of "hot" is that you cannot place your palm on top parts of the receiver for more than 10 seconds without feeling a burn.

I was at Best Buy the other week and I checked the temperture of every high-end receiver that way -- just for kicks. The Denon x2100, x3100 and x4100 were "hot" tamales while the x1100 ran warm. The same went for the Pioneer Elites and Marantz models. Only the lowest model ran warm while the rest ran hot. Moreover, these were all on idle.
AFAIK, the X3100 isn't due to a Best Buy until next week and the X4100W's aren't being released until Sep/Oct. Regardless, Best Buys provide insufficient ventilation (generally only 1-2") which can easily cause the space above the AVRs to heat up. Also, there is generally only a 1-2W difference in power used from no source playing to roughly TV volume levels of a 5.1 or even 7.1 setup. As noted above, the heat generation comes primarily from the video card and as the X1000/X1100W has no video card ... there is no real heat generated.
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Ah yes. it was x2100, 3000 and 4000. Yea, I noticed the racks had very little clearance for the receivers.

I didn't realize graphic cards are in receivers. Learned something new. Receivers are so complex these days!

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Not graphics cards, processors... They are the chips that convert the incoming signal to hi-def... e.g. a DVD 640x480 signal is upconverted to 1080P.

If it's not a BIG screen, it's not a theater...
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Would an AVR run noticeably cooler if Video Upscaling is turned off?
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Just got the Denon x2000 from crutchfeild and I've noticed the top gets really hot after only a short time of use.


I am going to put it on a shelf in my component closet and I'm worried this thing will overheat and fry eventually. I was torn between this and the Yamaha v675, both are $400.


I can send it back for a refund since I just got it like two weeks ago, but before I do I was wondering if I am just overreacting.
It is running my BenQ w1070, cable box, ps3, and right now only three bookshelf speakers.


Will it get worse when I get my entire 5.1 set up to it?

Has anyone else had one of these overheat on them?


I bought it over the Yamaha cause it was from crutchfeild, who has a great return policy, and I read the speaker calibration software for the Denon was superior to the Yamaha.


What should I do?

Thanks!
From my experience ventilated or not they run hot, I warned folks on this forum not to buy them.
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Would an AVR run noticeably cooler if Video Upscaling is turned off?
Unfortunately no. However, as already noted, with proper ventilation Denon AVRs don't generally run hot. However, using an external PC fan (or two) can drop the temp upwards of 10-20 degrees.

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Most likely there's nothing wrong with your receiver -- if it's not confined in a tight cabinet with low air circulation. Often times the higher models do get warmer with their better DAC. If you have a subwoofer, set your front speakers to small and crossover to 80hz.

My definition of "hot" is that you cannot place your palm on top parts of the receiver for more than 10 seconds without feeling a burn.

I was at Best Buy the other week and I checked the temperture of every high-end receiver that way -- just for kicks. The Denon x2100, x3100 and x4100 were "hot" tamales while the x1100 ran warm. The same went for the Pioneer Elites and Marantz models. Only the lowest model ran warm while the rest ran hot. Moreover, these were all on idle.
Thanks, that's reassuring. It is going to be in a closet, but it is a big closet, that won't have a bunch if things in it.
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Unfortunately no. However, as already noted, with proper ventilation Denon AVRs don't generally run hot. However, using an external PC fan (or two) can drop the temp upwards of 10-20 degrees.
Ya I read up on that. I could just buy the ones that plug into the USB port on the front of the AVR and mount them on the shelf right? What orientation would I mount them at if I did that? At the back blowing out across the top of the AVR? Or above the AVR blowing directly down onto the AVR?

Thanks for all the input guys!

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Here is the closet it's going in, along with a ps3 and maybe a mini fridge later on, the component shelves are going to be on the left wall and the mini fridge in the right wall if the closet.
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Ya I read up on that. I could just buy the ones that plug into the USB port on the front of the AVR and mount them on the shelf right? What orientation would I mount them at if I did that? At the back blowing out across the top of the AVR? Or above the AVR blowing directly down onto the AVR?

Thanks for all the input guys!
Neither. You want the fan to "exhaust" the air away from the top of the AVR. I would also suggest leaving the closet door open when using the equipment.
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Neither. You want the fan to "exhaust" the air away from the top of the AVR. I would also suggest leaving the closet door open when using the equipment.
Ok that makes sense. Ya since that pic we took the doors off and put a curtain over it, but I plan in leaving it open
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