Originally Posted by htpcforever
TI is a HUGE company. They do not need Onkyo any more than Microsoft needs Apple to support its Office program.
Onkyo is a drop in the bucket for TI. Would TI want to lose their business, of course not. Would TI tarnish their reputation, on purpose, over something so little as selling chips to Onkyo? I suspect not...especially since Onkyo's revenue is a scant $500M USD
Is it possible that Gibson also said they would ban all TI chips from their products if TI did not take a fall for Onkyo? Sure, but if we go there we might as well say TI also made the Super Thermite planted by special forces ops to destroy the Twin Towers on 9-11...
While Onkyo has done much wrong - a big one I believe is the removal of Audyssey from their four digit models - repairing the defective units for free and extending the warranty for many years (again for free) due to a defect caused by another company is not one of them. It is something done right. Rather than vilify them, you should applaud them so other companies will do the same thing if faced with a similar issue.
BTW, a class action suit against Onkyo would have failed - it would have had to be against Texas Instruments. Onkyo was also a victim in this event, blaming them for it would have done no good. Even a shoddy lawyer could effectively argue this.
But anyway, I am done discussing why it is silly to bash a company for doing the right thing. No amount of logic can sway someone who believes that doing the right thing means a company should be bashed. This has gone off topic long enough, so I will not reply. I know the Onkyo haters have some strange need to have the last word, so here is the chance.
I can't speak for others, but with me, you have missed the point of my argument, as well as the gist of my intent. I have never bashed Onkyo for "doing the right thing"...In fact, I have said many times that it is great that they are handling this and stepping up to what needed to be done...But they are certainly not the "victim". A "victim" would have no knowledge...Onkyo certainly knew.
However, their "fault" with me, is their lack of concern for the customer leading up to the recall. Their total disdain and complete denial that there is even an issue. (Which appears to be happening, even to this day...) I have exampled this time and time again in my argument, yet you still go back to the fact that "Onkyo isn't to blame". Well sir...they are. You will never convince me that they did this out of the goodness of their heart. No major corporation today has a conscience. Money is the sole motivator. Something forced their hand, and that something was the threat of losing more money in a law suit.
As large as TI may be, they are not responsible for the end product. Onkyo is. And as large as TI may be, their motivation is to sell chips. Why would you turn your nose up at sales? (I've worked with salespeople...trust me, they wouldn't) When eMachines sold me a computer in the late 90's, with a bad floppy drive built by someone else...the company that supplied the floppy didn't give me a new computer...eMachines did. They were the supplier of the product, and according to the class action, the ones responsible. You may name TI as a party which would share in the cost, (as they are presumably doing now), but the ultimate responsibility lies with Onkyo.
Takata is not recalling your Toyota airbags, (they are supplying the parts, and I'm sure sharing the cost...) Toyota is.
It's also notable that every time someone offers a well thought out argument to your opinion, you stamp your feet and demand that they are acting childish, and you need "proof", yet you are the one that puts them on "ignore" and claims we "need to have the last word"...
Have a nice life