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The owner of Auro 3d did talk of an upgrade for Auro and says it is in the works
Wasn't he talking about an upgrade of the AuroMatic upmixer? Different thing.

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Wasn't he talking about an upgrade of the AuroMatic upmixer? Different thing.
German website surround sound info it stated that I believe it will be for the home receivers though this is going through Google Translate
there is also a video posted though and I do not understand him auro did also say that there was no date for this update yet
We can just hope
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Nothing wrong with having dreams.
Mine is to get AuroMax into my room!
I don't get my hopes up too high though...
AuroMax? Is that the same thing as Auromatic? Jeesh so many techie terms...lol

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German website surround sound info it stated that I believe it will be for the home receivers though this is going through Google Translate
there is also a video posted though and I do not understand him auro did also say that there was no date for this update yet
We can just hope
VB can't be trusted, that's been proven a number of times with more than a few infamous quotes, misinformation and broken promises over the past few years. While you might see something trickle down to the higher end units like a few posters on this thread own, I would bet the farm that you'll never see it on any D&M units. That would require resources and I think its fair to say the reason why Auro has been offered as an upgrade for 3 years now is because it hasn't required anything "new" for D&M ex a firmware tweak or two. Don't see D&M putting resources into an immersive format that has zero releases in one of its biggest markets (US).

That's not a bad thing since it makes those who have units that have the upgrade or could be upgraded potentially more marketable if someone is seeking that feature. Similar to wides being phased out on this year's models, if you want them then you need to buy an older model.

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Hi
I am posting in the Auro 3d thread hoping to just find like minded people who like surround sound and Auro 3d sound
I hoping things will come is because I love movie sound
I hope the 11.2 system can be expanded to the masses to 13.2 or more for under $5000
I have wired for it now have to see what happens
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The owner of Auro 3d did talk of an upgrade for Auro and says it is in the works
Is this item pertinent? CLARIFICATION ON AURO-MATIC® V2.0 (link)


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Yes
There was a video in German (don't understand german )
He apparently talks of an upgrade to home cimema side of things

I hope that it will be true
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There was a video in German (don't understand german )
He apparently talks of an upgrade to home cimema side of things

I hope that it will be true
You don't have to understand German to realize that this talk about an upgrade is about the AuroMatic upmixer, NOT about the Auro3D immersive format. Again: Two different things.

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There was a video in German (don't understand german )
He apparently talks of an upgrade to home cimema side of things

I hope that it will be true

What he was saying in the video is that its an update for Auro-Matic so the center can be used in a "better" way.
As Auro now sounds, on a Stereo source, like DSU with Center Spread.
Think with the update a Stereo source will sound more like a 5.1 source, so more to the center.

I do hope Auro will make it as a choise for this.
So for a Stereo source (if you want) more to the center, and if you do not want, the way it is now, more to the Fronts.

Also hope D&M will come with an update soon so we can set Auro-Matic per source the way we want.
Now it will change a Auro-Matic setting for ALL sources
I want more Height effects in a movie, less in TV and music (and not 2D as this kills all Heights !)
But this is not possible now to set it per source, a very

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What he was saying in the video is that its an update for Auro-Matic so the center can be used in a "better" way.
As Auro now sounds, on a Stereo source, like DSU with Center Spread.
Think with the update a Stereo source will sound more like a 5.1 source, so more to the center.
This would be worst update ever.
Les center in stereo is what I like in auro-matic.
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This would be worst update ever.
Les center in stereo is what I like in auro-matic.

No, not when it is a Stereo movie download, or a stereo TV film/program that has nothing to do with music.
They must make a (stereo) Movie and a Music button so you can use it the way you want, for the source you want.
Now in a Stereo movie i switch to DSU (yes, you read correct ), just to get the dialogs from the center again, thats not nice with Auro-Matic Stereo input and movie content.
Stereo Music ok, thats the best ever, but Stereo Movie and Auro-Matic......
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Barco's latest immersive audio format, based on object-based technology developed by Iosono. For commercial cinemas only, not in any consumer electronics.
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Is that the same thing as Auromatic?
Blind upmixer (blind = not designed to decode any encoded material). For consumer electronics only, not used in any commercial cinemas.
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If I have a movie in regular dts hd or Dolby true hd and a new release comes out in dts x or atmos am I wasting my time buying it if I prefer listening in auro upmixer
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If I have a movie in regular dts hd or Dolby true hd and a new release comes out in dts x or atmos am I wasting my time buying it if I prefer listening in auro upmixer

Yes, if you prefer Auro-Matic (like i do) no need to buy movies you have in DTS and/or Dolby, in Atmos or DTSX.
If you have a UHD BD 4K player you still will get Atmos, DTSX or Auro, then you can see what you like the best, Atmos, DTSX or A-Matic, and for sure Auro3D if you have VOG
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If I have a movie in regular dts hd or Dolby true hd and a new release comes out in dts x or atmos am I wasting my time buying it if I prefer listening in auro upmixer
Most of us have found that a number of movies that have been released using Atmos or X have improved mixes (Fifth Element being one example of an old one made better, new there are plenty ie Goosebumps or soon TBR Hacksaw Ridge), so you may find Auromatic sounds better with one of those disks.

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cheers guys i don't have a vog, but its great picking up old blu rays and hearing them in auro
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I have yet to figure out if there is a pattern, but I am finding that depending on the disc, different mixers seem better than others. Fir instance, a concert DVD of ELO Zoom, using the DTS soundtrack, has a better stage presence using Auro, as opposed to NeutralX. NX seems to scatter the voices too much on that disc. Most of my 5.1 SACD's sound better using the Auro mixer. However, a 5.0 SACD, "The Best of Bread", sounds better using the NeutralX mixer. (I realize, for those about to suggest it, that I can use the native output of the source, but I prefer having all the speakers working.)

I'm guessing it has much to do with how it was mixed in the first place, dunno. I'm very happy with Auro, but I am finding it is not always the best choice for a given disc. I'm still experimenting with Atmos>Auro, DTS X>Auro, vs. same in/same out.

It is all subjective IMHO, and may even vary with the listening environment. Glad I have the option. (Kind of like heated seats in your car.)

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I have yet to figure out if there is a pattern, but I am finding that depending on the disc, different mixers seem better than others. Fir instance, a concert DVD of ELO Zoom, using the DTS soundtrack, has a better stage presence using Auro, as opposed to NeutralX. NX seems to scatter the voices too much on that disc. Most of my 5.1 SACD's sound better using the Auro mixer. However, a 5.0 SACD, "The Best of Bread", sounds better using the NeutralX mixer. (I realize, for those about to suggest it, that I can use the native output of the source, but I prefer having all the speakers working.)

I'm guessing it has much to do with how it was mixed in the first place, dunno. I'm very happy with Auro, but I am finding it is not always the best choice for a given disc. I'm still experimenting with Atmos>Auro, DTS X>Auro, vs. same in/same out.

It is all subjective IMHO, and may even vary with the listening environment. Glad I have the option. (Kind of like heated seats in your car.)

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For sure its the source mix thats making or breaking the way Auro, Dolby or DTS work.
For me when i listen to Stereo content from the TV, i have for Stereo DSU and for Surround content Auro.
When i do Stereo in Auro for TV channels, it sounds "strange" when the center sounds are pushed to the Fronts like Auro-matic is doing now.
Hope they (Auro) will change this with an option like Dolby has, center spread, but then the other way around, more to the center for (TV) stereo content.
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Johnny Mmemonic Bluray special edition remixed with Auro 3D:


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(And Atmos too )
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Johnny Mmemonic Bluray special edition remixed with Auro 3D:


http://shop.raketeshop.de/johnny-mne...00-stueck.html

(And Atmos too )

To bad is only "old" stuff with Auro........
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New Lyngdorf Audio MP-50 surround sound processor with Auro 3D !

http://www.lyngdorf.com/products/electronics/mp-50
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New Lyngdorf Audio MP-50 surround sound processor with Auro 3D !

http://www.lyngdorf.com/products/electronics/mp-50
That looks about what the doctor ordered.... Though I don't doubt the pricetag would make me cough....

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That looks about what the doctor ordered.... Though I don't doubt the pricetag would make me cough....

Indeed, will be around the $10.000 point
But good to see they will also do Auro.........
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Indeed, will be around the $10.000 point
But good to see they will also do Auro.........
If it stays there.... but in any case - it would be an "improvement" on the Datasat/Trinnov pricetags.

(But it's still looking like it'll have to be a D+M machine once current gen starts hitting the used gear market for me...)

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( BTW, I have sent a message to NAD support asking about if/when we can have Auro3D. Should be interesting to see if and, in that case, what they answer. )

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New Lyngdorf Audio MP-50 surround sound processor with Auro 3D !

http://www.lyngdorf.com/products/electronics/mp-50
Separate thread on this.
Note that it is limited to 12 channel processing (16 channel total) so only 11.1 and not 13.2.
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I received an Auro demo disc yesterday (nothing new, the 2014 one), and watched some of the demo material. I liked what I heard, having only used the Auro up-mixer in the past for two-channel music. I'm going to test out the up-mixer on movies and hear how it sounds compared to DSU and Neural:X. I started with Legends of the Guardians last night; the height channels sounded very natural and organic to me. There were a couple of scenes where the camera pans in a 360° arc while the main adversary Pitch is speaking off-screen, which I thought Auro handled very well. DSU sounds too subtle to me for most content, and Neural:X can sometimes be too aggressive, so I'm looking forward to discovering how Auro performs.
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Anyone running a Auro3D setup with top firing speakers instead of ceiling mounted?

I am still experimenting with my setup; my front Left and right speakers are below my screen, I am not wired for in ceiling speakers and I don't want speakers above screen not enough room plus would be an eye distraction.

So I am curious if anyone is using the Atoms top firing speakers like MartinLogan Motion AFX or Elac Debut type speakers and what affect do to they have on the Auro3D sound?

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Anyone running a Auro3D setup with top firing speakers instead of ceiling mounted?

I am still experimenting with my setup; my front Left and right speakers are below my screen, I am not wired for in ceiling speakers and I don't want speakers above screen not enough room plus would be an eye distraction.

So I am curious if anyone is using the Atomo top firing speakers like MartinLogan Motion AFX or Elac speakers Debut type speakers and what affect do to they have on the Auro3D sound?
That will not work. For Auro3D the sound coming from a height speaker needs to be a close match to that coming from its speaker below.

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That will not work. For Auro3D the sound coming from a height speaker needs to be a close match to that coming from its speaker below.
I will need to place the heights in the front corners above but to the left and right of the screen and see how that works over the weekend.

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