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Is it possible to use SB for VOG on the SR7011 too? I hate the idea of having only one subwoofer channel for LFE which has to be split. Otherwise I might have to assign a miniDSP 2x4 HD for the job. I think it is an error in design to use one of the sub preouts for the top channel, because as far as I can tell people using Auro-3D are more likely to have 2 or more subwoofers as well. Mostly because it is a paid upgrade that has a tendency of being picked up by the more enthusiast type of customer.
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Unfortunately second sub pre-out need to be sacrificed.
I hate that idea to, hence don't have VOG.
But have 4 subwoofers 😀
Not only that but SB does not work with Auro 3D.

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Not only that but SB does not work with Auro 3D.

Yes it will, but this will be Auro 13.1, to bad at the moment D&M can not process 13.1
It will use SB with Auro 2D 10.1, but then no Heights.
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Yes it will, but this will be Auro 13.1, to bad at the moment D&M can not process 13.1
It will use SB with Auro 2D 10.1, but then no Heights.
Correct, it will but does not today.

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Yes it will, but this will be Auro 13.1, to bad at the moment D&M can not process 13.1
It will use SB with Auro 2D 10.1, but then no Heights.
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Correct, it will but does not today.
AFAIK per JD this December Denon will release their new flagship replacing the current 7200wa.

Hopefully it will be 11 ch processing 11 amp or 13 ch 11 amped or best speculation 13 ch + 13 amps. We will know in about 9 months when it is eventually "birthed".

Usually the flagship goes though 2 year cycles so we are due for the 7200wa upgrade in 2017. Hope it has 2.1 HDMI too, along with other bells & whistles to entice us.
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AFAIK per JD this December Denon will release their new flagship replacing the current 7200wa.

Hopefully it will be 11 ch processing 11 amp or 13 ch 11 amped or best speculation 13 ch + 13 amps. We will know in about 9 months when it is eventually "birthed".

Usually the flagship goes though 2 year cycles so we are due for the 7200wa upgrade in 2017. Hope it has 2.1 HDMI too, along with other bells & whistles to entice us.
It will all depends on how many potential users will buy a 13 channel receiver.
Think this will be a very low number........
Makes no sence in making a receiver that will not sell du to a high price because it can do 13/13
Think the "logical" way will be a 11 channel receiver like the X6300H now, but with 13 channel processing so a user can do Auro 13.1 if he likes through one external amp.
Its "just" SB thats missing now on Auro, and i will forget Center Heigh for the moment, this will be of no use for the most of us.


Can't wait to see what D&M will put on the market to replace the 7200.
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Inferno and J0hnny Pn3m0n1c added to the Auro3D collection here now.
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Denon can do Surround Back for VOG (i use this for now as i do not use SB), so you can keep using the 2 Subwoofer outs.
If Denon can, Marantz can also
I don't think denon can do VOG from SB.
If can, that means it's better then Marantz because Marantz definitely can't.
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I don't think denon can do VOG from SB.
If can, that means it's better then Marantz because Marantz definitely can't.


Denon en Marantz use the same software (i think), so when 5 channel floor layout is selected (not 7 channel floor layout !) you will get the option to use SB for VOG.
BUT.........
The X6300H is a 11 channel receiver, the 7011 is a 9 channel receiver, think there is the "problem" Marantz can not do the SB to VOG trick.
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Denon en Marantz use the same software (i think), so when 5 channel floor layout is selected (not 7 channel floor layout !) you will get the option to use SB for VOG.
BUT.........
The X6300H is a 11 channel receiver, the 7011 is a 9 channel receiver, think there is the "problem" Marantz can not do the SB to VOG trick.
Interesting does using the SB for VOB use the receivers SB channel amp so you don't need an external one to drive it?
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CbdiX.
You right. Unfortunately I'm right too.
With marantz when sign 5 channel on floor level and 5 channels high level, still need second subwoofer output for VOG.
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Interesting does using the SB for VOB use the receivers SB channel amp so you don't need an external one to drive it?
Yes.
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CbdiX.
You right. Unfortunately I'm right too.
With marantz when sign 5 channel on floor level and 5 channels high level, still need second subwoofer output for VOG.
As soon as Marantz comes with an 11 channel receiver, it can do the X6330H SB > VOG trick
For a lot of European users the SB speakers are not so important (smaler living rooms), so with the 6300 they can use just the receiver and no need for an external amp.
I do use now an external amp to drive my front speakers, the Marantz PM8005.
With the 8005 i can control the for me very important Mid range just by the turn of a knob.
This way i can enjoi the PM8005 when i play music in Stereo mode.
And the PM8005 drives my fronts with Bi-wire, a Silver wire for the mid/high speakers, and a OFCopper for the bass speakers.
Not because i must, but because i can..........
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I use to had Yamaha stereo for fronts and when swap for marantz I thought to buy pm 8005 for fronts.
Are you happy with that amplifier? Is any good?
I have now Marantz MM8077 to power floor level and listening all music in auro-matic, stereo too.
I found auro3d giving to stereo music more space.
Have you tried stereo music in auro-matic?
Compared to ordinary stereo?
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I use to had Yamaha stereo for fronts and when swap for marantz I thought to buy pm 8005 for fronts.
Are you happy with that amplifier? Is any good?
I have now Marantz MM8077 to power floor level and listening all music in auro-matic, stereo too.
I found auro3d giving to stereo music more space.
Have you tried stereo music in auro-matic?
Compared to ordinary stereo?


I do not see any real bennefit in having a power amp compared to what a modern receiver can do.
But if you use a pre-amp your stuck to a power amp.


Indeed Auro-Matic is giving Stereo a bit more "space", but for music still like stereo the best.
What i like in the 8005 is the adjustible mid-range, almost no other amp has mid-range control, i find this very strange as this can bring vocals up front if you like.
The 8005 is the best amp under the expesive PM14 and PM11 serie.
And even then no mid-range control..........
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I do not see any real bennefit in having a power amp compared to what a modern receiver can do.
Which modern receiver gives you 1kW+ peak output?

Dynamic material played reasonably loud will lead to the need for it given normal speaker sensitivity (87-90db). You might be on 4 ohm speakers as well.

Another benefit of external amps is that you can do channel to amp re-routing externally if prepro/receiver cannot.

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Which modern receiver gives you 1kW+ peak output?

Dynamic material played reasonably loud will lead to the need for it given normal speaker sensitivity (87-90db). You might be on 4 ohm speakers as well.

Another benefit of external amps is that you can do channel to amp re-routing externally if prepro/receiver cannot.
Who "needs" 1000+ watts in a normal (standard) living space ?
Think for 95% of the users a receiver has more then enough power to get the cat running out of the room
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I have sr7010, he is power hi speakers. Power amp, power floor level speakers.
Maybe I will add pm 8005 for fronts will see.
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If you hear something louder in your left ear than your right ear, you know that the sound is coming from your left. If you hear something louder in your right ear than your left ear, you know that sound is coming from your right. If you hear the sound equally in both ears, you know the sound is directly in front of you. But is it?

A single speaker directly above you will be heard equally in both ears and the automatic reflex of our human hearing is to perceive that sound directly in front of us. The phenomenon is referred to as imaging reversal. The solution is simple: play that mono signal through two speakers, spread at least 60 degrees apart. On Denon/Marantz gear, the VOG channel is played back from the second subwoofer output. Since you're going to have to connect it to an external amp anyway, use a y-splitter to connect it to two amp channels and two speakers. IF you don't have more than one amp channel, wire the speakers in series.

BTW, the reversal problem had come up in the late 1990s, with the introduction of 6.1-channel soundtracks. Even though they had a mono surround-back channel, Dolby and DTS and THX all recommended playing that channel through two speakers. It was the only channel for which two speakers were recommended. If you see an Auro home theatre demo at a trade show, the VOG channel will typically be played back through more than one VOG speaker. Likewise, all the Auro movie theatres around me use at least 4 speakers to play back the VOG channel.
Very clear. It brings up the thought of using two atmos upfiring speakers hooked up exactly this way, mounted on the tops of the side surround speakers. With 30 degree angles for the upfiring speakers, the result would be a separation of the two reflected sound beams of 60 degrees. The dolby enabled upfiring speakers have the 10K "notch" for bounce aural perception built in, but there would be no "atmos-enabled processing" on the signal. What do you think of this arrangement?

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Who "needs" 1000+ watts in a normal (standard) living space ?
Think for 95% of the users a receiver has more then enough power to get the cat running out of the room
Anyone who wants to listen to highly dynamical music without clipping the peaks. The most dynamic piece of music I have has a crest factor of 27dB. If you want to listen to it at an average level of 90dB with speakers of 87dB sensitivity and a normal listening distance, you need more than 2kW even... Only for some milliseconds of course - the average power need is of course lower, but you need peek capacity if you want the output unspoiled.

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Anyone who wants to listen to highly dynamical music without clipping the peaks. The most dynamic piece of music I have has a crest factor of 27dB. If you want to listen to it at an average level of 90dB with speakers of 87dB sensitivity and a normal listening distance, you need more than 2kW even... Only for some milliseconds of course - the average power need is of course lower, but you need peek capacity if you want the output unspoiled.
I can not agree, sorry..........

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I can not agree, sorry..........
Haha, you are a funny guy. @Nightlord is providing you with some factual information. It's like not agreeing with the inevitable sun set every day. Maybe you mean to say that those facts are not that important to you?

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What do you think of this arrangement?
I think that could work if you put the upfiring speakers on the side surrounds. This way, rather than having the virtual speakers forward or rearward of your listening position, they would instead image overhead; just like the VOG channel should.
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Haha, you are a funny guy. @Nightlord is providing you with some factual information. It's like not agreeing with the inevitable sun set every day. Maybe you mean to say that those facts are not that important to you?
Indeed some great information to know that i need a lot of Watts for a millisecond .............
Lets stay on Auro and not these endless discussions.

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Indeed some great information to know that i need a lot of Watts for a millisecond .............
Lets stay on Auro and not these endless discussions.
You don't know what you're missing until you've heard it, as usual. When you've heard it you don't want to be without it.

Agreed. Just felt external amps got a much too bad rep.

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I think that could work if you put the upfiring speakers on the side surrounds. This way, rather than having the virtual speakers forward or rearward of your listening position, they would instead image overhead; just like the VOG channel should.
I have also seen it suggested elsewhere that you can use upfiring speakers on the ceiling or high on the wall firing down for the heights and and upfiring speakers on the ground directly below the heights firing up for fronts and or surrounds creating a wall or column of sound from the floor to the ceiling.

I am not sure how that would work but or if it would work but I might have to experiment with it in the near future just to hear the actual effect.
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Ok guys, I have a question about how Auro3D can be transfered from a Blu Ray player to a processor. Is this only possible via HDMI?

If I'm correct, the Auro3D Audio codec algorithms are embedded in a 5.1 channel PCM soundtrack. It's different for Dolby Atmos and DTS:X as the metadata is extracted from the bitstream.

The reason why I'm asking is that with a modified Oppo (digital outs instead of the analog 7.1 out) you then could create a fully digital chain from player to processor.
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I have also seen it suggested elsewhere that you can use upfiring speakers on the ceiling or high on the wall firing down for the heights and and upfiring speakers on the ground directly below the heights firing up for fronts and or surrounds creating a wall or column of sound from the floor to the ceiling.
Atmos Enabled upfiring speakers have height processing built into the crossover, which you wouldn't want/need for speakers placed above the listeners and pointing down.
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Inferno and J0hnny Pn3m0n1c added to the Auro3D collection here now.
Got mine today



Backcover says Auro 9.1, but pressing info button comfirmes a 13.1 Auro track.

And as pic shows, one BD has Atmos, and the other has Auro

I also got to watch Inferno last weekend, both the Atmos and the Auro version. This is not the best Atmos/Auro track i have heard, but they perform very similar. However the Auro track has noticable better/more natural ambiance in a lot of scenes, be it in the cathedrals, in the city, outdoors. Not in the big effects, but little sounds around you, like birds, traffic, humans speaking in the background, echo in the cathedrals etc. Very cool, actually.
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I have also seen it suggested elsewhere that you can use upfiring speakers on the ceiling or high on the wall firing down for the heights and and upfiring speakers on the ground directly below the heights firing up for fronts and or surrounds creating a wall or column of sound from the floor to the ceiling.

I am not sure how that would work but or if it would work but I might have to experiment with it in the near future just to hear the actual effect.

Yes you can do that !!
Klipsch makes the RP140SA and this can be facing up from a speaker and acts as an Dolby Enabled speaker (aka bouncer) or you can mount them on the wall near the ceiling facing down.
Nothing "magical" about a Dolby Enabled speaker, its a speaker, nothing more, nothing less.
Use them the way you like, and the special network inside a Dolby Enabled speaker is just a bump in a specific frequency to make them more able to bounce of a ceiling.
When you do not bounce, Audyssey will take care of this

All brands with DE speakers could be used this way if the brand makes it possible for wall mounting.
Or mount it yourself with a speaker bracket on the wall, and take any speaker you want
I like the RP140SA du to its build-inn wall mounting option, or put it on the front speaker facing up and see what you like better !
Or do both, 2 bouncing, and 2 facing down direct, who knows how good this can sound, maybe the best of both worlds.......
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Atmos Enabled upfiring speakers have height processing built into the crossover, which you wouldn't want/need for speakers placed above the listeners and pointing down.

No, see Klipsch RP140SA, can be used the way the user wants, as Dolby Enabled "bouncer", or placed near the ceiling facing down.........
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