Originally Posted by Rgarc
People that I have talked to about this that have had the opportunity to experience both Atmos and Auro 3d have generally stated that Auro 3d is the better format. However, the lack of content in the United States has cooled them off as well. Unfortunately there are not a lot of opportunities to experience Auro 3d in the US outside of a few movie theaters.
What turned me away was when the Bladerunner 2049 Blu-ray was released in the US with an Atmos soundtrack despite it it having an Auro 3d US theatrical release. just abut every Blu-Ray listed on the Auro 3d Website got released in Atmos in the US. However, if your main thing is music, you can get Blu-ray music disks in Auro 3D in the US. I keep coming back to this thread hoping to hear news about Auro 3D expanding in US Market so I still have hope.
I'm sure licensing fees have everything to do with it not happening, but given the layout incompatibilities of these three formats, it would be darn nice if at least streaming versions offered your choice of soundtrack. I don't six foreign language soundtracks either. How about the original soundtrack the movie was made in with the original actors' voices and just have subtitles for foreign countries (I always get yelled at if I want a Japanese animation with dubbed English like Macross DYRL). That would leave plenty of room on most titles for ALL THREE on one disc or streaming file. How is it possible that with 9+ BILLION people on the planet and 300 million in the US alone that they can't make 10,000 copies in Auro 3D for those here that want it? They do stupid special editions with little more than a slip cover for Walmart or Target or whatever, but they can't make these on demand for those that want it? I call BS. The industry is too darn greedy. It's like expecting Apple to cater an updated Mac Mini every single year instead of every 4-5 years when tiny tiny companies elsewhere manage a new computer model update every single QUARTER! It's ridiculous.
It's made only worse here by the fact you MIGHT be able to get Blade Runner with Auro 3D from Poland there, but what if you want the 4K version or the 3D version? Up the creek without a paddle comes to mind. I suppose for Blu-Rays, you could buy both and mux them yourself (or combine in a digital file with Handbrake + Subler) both the Atmos, DTS and Auro 3D versions yourself. I know I have Atmos (from the 2D disc included), DTS (from the 3D version, although I think it's only 5.1 so not so great to compare) and it would be a simple matter to combine them for a local streaming version to have both plus Auro 3D. I think Atmos + 3D barely fits on an actual disc, though so you'd have to burn a separate disc with Auro and 3D if you wanted it. A 2D disc could probably hold all three. But until 4K is easier to extract and remux, getting 4K with the soundtrack of your choice might be difficult at best, even if you're willing to spend the money to do it.
I'm currently looking at replacing my old Yamaha 7.1 (pre-True HD and Master HD with component inputs tied to an HDMI switcher for now) receiver with something newer, but it seems like the longer I wait, the more features and updates get put into these receivers. I keep figuring they'll settle down sooner or later but then HDR+ just showed up recently as well. I've been looking at Yamaha again for the presence/dialog lift feature (can't seem to find out if anyone else offers anything similar), but I'd rather have Denon or some other brand for Audyssey or Dirac room correction so it's a bit of a compromise. It doesn't appear Yamaha offers Auro 3D period either (I think it would be easier to change my current layout to Auro 3D/DTS than Dolby's prescribed Atmos, but then I've heard Atmos sounds pretty good over Auro 3D layout, despite what Dolby might want you to think.
I'm particularly irritated that for decades, Dolby said to use side or rear surrounds above ear level (which happens to line up with my drop-down screen anyway putting current sounds both in a straight line and yet overhead as well from the listening couch) and now wants you to not only tear down those speakers and put them elsewhere, but mount horrible looking speakers on the ceiling when in a narrow room, at least, high side-wall mounted surrounds will image overhead between the speakers anyway and it seems like the logical mixer could make them balance in-between more than towards the extremes if the position isn't exactly where they want it. No no no. Dolby says use up-firing speakers instead.... Yeah, those sound SO MUCH BETTER than a real speaker mounted high on the side walls...(if you like the sound coming from the up-firing speakers; I haven't heard a set yet that really sounds like it's up there instead of coming from the speaker).
This is the layout I'm dealing with currently (the photo is older; there's an Epson 3100 there and some source changes, etc. but you can see the front at least. The layout diagram shows the rest. The trick is to try and find a good solution despite the half bathroom and sliding door in the back of the room (not to mention the outboard fireplace behind the couch area, making side symmetrical placements and back-wall ones problematic at best, which is why I'm currently using 6.1 instead of 7.1 speakers (plus to get three identical front speakers under the screen, I only had one left over, so it seemed like a good solution back in 2007. I had to turn the back speaker around to avoid the "sounds like it's in front of you" effect with just one speaker, but otherwise, it sounds pretty good. PSB are neutral speakers and the DT sub (despite being over 22 years old now) plays pretty flat to 21Hz.
I've been looking at various PSB speakers that might work. I'm thinking something like a set of Alphas on the second tier bookcase might work as a front presence/dialog lift and/or front height channel. The side surrounds are right in line with that so perhaps adding a set of "bed" speakers to the sides or just behind the couch would work along with a second rear speaker (even if they're not terribly far apart) for a 7.1.4 configuration that could also do Auro 3D 9.1. What do you guys think?