Originally Posted by smurraybhm
In the end we are just trying to learn about the immersive formats, but no one should have to apologize when pointing out that someone doesn’t have the facts right.
That depends on whether you're actually talking about the facts or opinions. While facts were involved, my problem is when someone attacks my opinion like it's not subjective (i.e. "I think Auro 3D sounds like a superior system Dolby is trying to kill with their licensing order" is an impression, not a fact or even a listening opinion. When you acknowledge that Dolby has objects and Auro 3D does not but objects aren't the be-all end-all thing in a lesser channel environment, I get more arguments back. Why would someone argue about an opinion? Yes, give your own opinion, but you can't convince someone something sounds better by saying so. They have to hear it. Ragging on it post after post after post is not helpful, IMO.
It reminds me of the old Mac Vs. PC arguments. There was a lot of reasons PCs were "better", IMO (better supported gaming APIs, more hardware choices, lower prices) and a few in favor of the Mac at the time (i.e. circa 2005-10), namely a better more reliable operating system (outside of gaming), at least before Windows 10. Now Windows 10 has taken many Mac cues and many old problems no longer exist from the XP/Vista era, but if privacy is important to someone (Windows 10 itself is spyware in a way since it's always sending data to Microsoft whether you want it to or not, let alone forced upgrades you cannot deny short of the professional level) and worrying about malware is more of a concern (there just isn't much at all on a Mac), well there's still reasons to choose Mac despite continued crappy hardware choices, ridiculously high prices and poor gaming support. So what's "better" ? You can make technical points all day long, but one technical point (better gaming API support) does not a total SYSTEM make. The overall experience is subjective based on personal priorities and this case subjective sound impressions. Worse yet, I'm just reading about the material and other people's experiences. I have not heard Auro 3D in the home.
So from my perspective, arguing/yelling at me about impressions I'm getting instead of even something I've heard is not only absurd, but wasting my time post after post (I'm sick of arguing about things all over the Net, not just here. It's very tiring.) I'd rather discuss potential than "What's better, Atmos or Auro 3D?" Auro 3D has already lost so it doesn't really matter. I don't have to "like" Dolby as a company. I don't like their strong-arm tactics at all. It reminds me of Microsoft in the 1990s, trying to monopolize the market not by being better, but by trying to force the competition out of business with license deals, the same thing I'm seeing here from Dolby. It was wrong then with Microsoft and it's wrong now with Dolby. If Atmos is truly superior, it should be able to stand on its own two feet by merits alone, not trying to license others out of business. But that is just my opinion.
Nightlord's opinions are still his opinions too, even if his logic doesn't seem to make sense. I can't agree with making fun of someone just because they don't like something. Having Mr. Alexander tell me they're hear to educate not argue and then shortly thereafter posting that "Earth isn't f-ing flat" snippet didn't help make his case with me. When I say "smug" I mean THAT. I'm right and you're wrong and I'll make fun of you because well...it's funny to me and my buddy here that know more than you guys! LOL! Yeah. Yeah, that's not funny to me and I doubt Nightlord either.