The official Auro 3D thread (home theater version) - Page 98 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 1873Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #2911 of 6360 Old 09-28-2015, 09:33 AM
Advanced Member
 
Lasalle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sarasota, FL
Posts: 894
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 555 Post(s)
Liked: 415
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdurani View Post
Thanx for doing that, but I would have been more interested in you asking them what makes HRTF "the focal point of the Auromatic design". Instead, we are again asked to accept things on faith as we're told that HRTF "is where the 'magic' of the algorithm is". In which case, my original question still stands:
Didn't think their response would be an epiphany for you guys , but I just received their email today and thought it should be shared. If nothing else they are doubling down on their story. Personally, I'm not surprised at the opaqueness of their response, but it does little to sway those who are skeptical.
Lasalle is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2912 of 6360 Old 09-28-2015, 09:47 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
sdurani's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Monterey Park, CA
Posts: 27,558
Mentioned: 192 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6963 Post(s)
Liked: 5938
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasalle View Post
Didn't think their response would be an epiphany for you guys , but I just received their email today and thought it should be shared.
Again, thanx for that. I wasn't looking for an epiphany, maybe a small hint about how they use HRTF instead of just telling us they do.
Quote:
Personally, I'm not surprised at the opaqueness of their response, but it does little to sway those who are skeptical.
I was surprised by how opaque they were. If you want to know how HRTF was used for Dolby Elevation processing in their upfiring Atmos modules, their patent will show you the squiggle. By comparison, Auro wouldn't even explicitly answer your question, just imply "for obvious reasons".

Sanjay
sdurani is offline  
post #2913 of 6360 Old 09-28-2015, 11:10 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Nightlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Southern Sweden
Posts: 2,610
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 856 Post(s)
Liked: 291
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdurani View Post
Again, thanx for that. I wasn't looking for an epiphany, maybe a small hint about how they use HRTF instead of just telling us they do. I was surprised by how opaque they were. If you want to know how HRTF was used for Dolby Elevation processing in their upfiring Atmos modules, their patent will show you the squiggle. By comparison, Auro wouldn't even explicitly answer your question, just imply "for obvious reasons".
Well... since Atmos needs to stipulate that for speaker companies that are to be compliant... plus that someone would very easily be able to measure that on the speakers, there is nothing to be gained by Dolby by keeping it quiet. Auro does not need to tell anyone how it works, so they do best in not giving their IP away for free. I'm certain there are things Dolby are doing that they aren't telling us in the commercial papers or in (fully) fleshed out in patents as well.

Codename - the Larch theater
Nightlord is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2914 of 6360 Old 09-28-2015, 11:57 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
CBdicX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hello from Holland !
Posts: 3,250
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1606 Post(s)
Liked: 382
I think some are listening to "technical" !

If it works, it works, i do not care how and why.
And i do like Auro-Auro Matic more then Atmos-DSU in most cases.
For now i am even using Auro in specific Atmos movies as for me its "lifting" the sound more then Atmos itself.
In music Auro is the absolute winner, from stereo to surround Auro is the winner but depends on the source, for 5.1 to 5.1.4 Auro is the winner.
I have the "feeling" that Auro is more quality, it feels like they (Auro) have put more effort in the software to get it right.
Atmos/DSU sounds to me more like a mass produced product.
Maybe my findings are partial between the ears and not in the ears, but this also forms the idea how a person interacts with sound.........

I like Auro and how they do it is for me not an isseu
CBdicX is offline  
post #2915 of 6360 Old 09-29-2015, 12:16 AM
 
NorthSky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Star of the Northern Hemisphere
Posts: 16,643
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7012 Post(s)
Liked: 3561
...And the Auro people seem to be more friendly too...in vast majority...vast generality.

...Kind of people who live and love and let live and let love.

♦ You think it might be an effect of that last lunar eclipse? ;-)

Last edited by NorthSky; 09-29-2015 at 12:52 AM. Reason: s
NorthSky is offline  
post #2916 of 6360 Old 09-29-2015, 01:35 AM
Senior Member
 
multit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 413
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 329 Post(s)
Liked: 158
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBdicX View Post
...And i do like Auro-Auro Matic more then Atmos-DSU in most cases.
For now i am even using Auro in specific Atmos movies as for me its "lifting" the sound more then Atmos itself.
In music Auro is the absolute winner, from stereo to surround Auro is the winner but depends on the source, for 5.1 to 5.1.4 Auro is the winner...
I would not use Auro-Matic for Atmos movies (ok, maybe except Transformers ), because then I would loose the ability to listen to the mixers intention. It's not always about, how much will be lifted, but rather what, why and how.
In movies/ tv series, my usage of DSU and AuroMatic is still about 50:50... depending on the content.

But I fully agree with the music. It doesn't need much effort, to prove DSU wrong in mixing up music, since extracting certain sounds and put it elsewhere could quite never be a solution for music. Auro-Matic keeps everything (the stage) in place, but enhance listening experience softly into 3D.

Home theater room with a 7.2.4 setup,
Yamaha CX-A5200/MX-A5000, JVC X5000, Oppo 203,
nubert nuVero series 14/7/3/5 speakers
multit is offline  
post #2917 of 6360 Old 09-29-2015, 02:06 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
CBdicX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hello from Holland !
Posts: 3,250
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1606 Post(s)
Liked: 382
I did switch between Auro and Atmos on real Atmos demo material like Amaze and T4, and found Auro (matic) doing for me a better job in greating the height effect.
And maybe not as the mixer intended, but i do not know what the mixer intended, and the mixer is mixing to Dolby specs, so using Auro will be off the guidline anyway.
(and my speaker layout is in between both systems)
But when it sounds "better" i am happy, and thats the final goal.

I must say i do not even had a real Auro-3D movie to listen to, i am looking for the best Auro example, maybe an "Auro freak" can help me, prefered SiFi.......
I would be very amazed if the Auro movie will sound better in DSU


Thx.......

Last edited by CBdicX; 09-29-2015 at 02:12 AM.
CBdicX is offline  
post #2918 of 6360 Old 09-29-2015, 04:32 AM
Advanced Member
 
Lasalle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sarasota, FL
Posts: 894
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 555 Post(s)
Liked: 415
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBdicX View Post
I did switch between Auro and Atmos on real Atmos demo material like Amaze and T4, and found Auro (matic) doing for me a better job in greating the height effect.
And maybe not as the mixer intended, but i do not know what the mixer intended, and the mixer is mixing to Dolby specs, so using Auro will be off the guidline anyway.
(and my speaker layout is in between both systems)
But when it sounds "better" i am happy, and thats the final goal.

I must say i do not even had a real Auro-3D movie to listen to, i am looking for the best Auro example, maybe an "Auro freak" can help me, prefered SiFi.......
I would be very amazed if the Auro movie will sound better in DSU




Thx.......
https://www.barco.com/en/News/Post/2...Sound-for-Film

Looks like they are starting to demo Auromax, it will be interesting to see when the theaters start upgrading. The WSR interview indicated an HT release is planned
Lasalle is offline  
post #2919 of 6360 Old 09-29-2015, 05:37 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
lujan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 8,682
Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4357 Post(s)
Liked: 2448
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasalle View Post
https://www.barco.com/en/News/Post/2...Sound-for-Film

Looks like they are starting to demo Auromax, it will be interesting to see when the theaters start upgrading. The WSR interview indicated an HT release is planned
The video mentioned movies released using Auro 3D but none of those have been released for the home cinema in Auro 3D.

lujan
515 Ultra HD
724 HD
4 SD
lujan is offline  
post #2920 of 6360 Old 09-29-2015, 07:01 AM
Advanced Member
 
Lasalle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sarasota, FL
Posts: 894
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 555 Post(s)
Liked: 415
Quote:
Originally Posted by lujan View Post
The video mentioned movies released using Auro 3D but none of those have been released for the home cinema in Auro 3D.
Yes this has been often discussed and led some to conclude the format is dead for HT (music maybe different). In the WSR interview WVB said they are reaching critical mass in HT installations to get the studio's to move on releases. We will see if that pans out. Many believe the major content releases will be on UHD Blu-ray, so we may have to wait and see.

IMHO Auro's best bet may ironically be with DTS. The cinema market is quickly moving to a single immersive mix format under SMPTE. All three cinema codec's will need to support it. It would be easier and less expensive for the studio's to just release this format to the HT market or create one near field mix in this format. In an effort to make up for a late introduction DTS may push for this with the advantage of reducing studio costs and improving ease of introduction. Auro would then release a compatible version of Auromax on HT and be able to play all that content.

Pure speculation, but it would interesting jujitsu on DTS's part.
Ted99 likes this.
Lasalle is offline  
post #2921 of 6360 Old 09-29-2015, 07:11 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
CBdicX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hello from Holland !
Posts: 3,250
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1606 Post(s)
Liked: 382
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasalle View Post
https://www.barco.com/en/News/Post/2...Sound-for-Film

Looks like they are starting to demo Auromax, it will be interesting to see when the theaters start upgrading. The WSR interview indicated an HT release is planned
Thanks, think i was not clear, i mean a Auro Blu-ray
What will be a good Auro example for SiFi ?

Last edited by CBdicX; 09-29-2015 at 07:14 AM.
CBdicX is offline  
post #2922 of 6360 Old 09-29-2015, 07:24 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
sdurani's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Monterey Park, CA
Posts: 27,558
Mentioned: 192 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6963 Post(s)
Liked: 5938
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightlord View Post
Auro does not need to tell anyone how it works, so they do best in not giving their IP away for free.
No one is asking them to. It was LaSalle who was "suggesting discussions on how Auromatic works might be more productive if they address these foundational algorithms". My only point was that it would not be possible to address HRTF in discussions of Auromatic when there is zero information about how they are used.

Sanjay
sdurani is offline  
post #2923 of 6360 Old 09-29-2015, 08:22 AM
Advanced Member
 
Lasalle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sarasota, FL
Posts: 894
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 555 Post(s)
Liked: 415
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBdicX View Post
Thanks, think i was not clear, i mean a Auro Blu-ray
What will be a good Auro example for SiFi ?
Sorry, meant as a new post. Your best bet maybe Redtails or the Auro 3D demo disk for native content. Others on this thread could better identify the best SiFi move to be upmixed by Auromatic.
Lasalle is offline  
post #2924 of 6360 Old 09-29-2015, 09:08 AM
Advanced Member
 
Lasalle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sarasota, FL
Posts: 894
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 555 Post(s)
Liked: 415
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdurani View Post
It was LaSalle who was "suggesting discussions on how Auromatic works might be more productive if they address these foundational algorithms". My only point was that it would not be possible to address HRTF in discussions of Auromatic when there is zero information about how they are used.
I agree with you and also stand by my original comments. I think we both agree on the logical conclusion that productive discussions on how it works are probably not possible absent more information on their algorithms. I tried going to Auro directly but didn't think we'd get much more information. Their responses to my correspondences with them have always been very polite (if not somewhat delayed) and guarded. Probably the result of living in the shadow of a 900 lb gorilla.
Lasalle is offline  
post #2925 of 6360 Old 10-04-2015, 07:33 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Movie78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NY
Posts: 1,524
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 946 Post(s)
Liked: 294
Owners AURO equip Receivers.

What do you guys like about Auro?
Movie78 is offline  
post #2926 of 6360 Old 10-04-2015, 12:02 PM
Member
 
lurkalot2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Podunk west Michigan
Posts: 39
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Movie78 View Post
Owners AURO equip Receivers.

What do you guys like about Auro?
auromatic gives me a wide 3D sound stage for movies as well music.And its consistent from movie to movie and song to song.

MARANTZ 7702 with Auro Upgrade
Monitor radius 90 (FH) and (SH)
VOG Golden Ear Invisia 525
lurkalot2 is offline  
post #2927 of 6360 Old 10-04-2015, 01:59 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Movie78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NY
Posts: 1,524
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 946 Post(s)
Liked: 294
Quote:
Originally Posted by lurkalot2 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Movie78 View Post
Owners AURO equip Receivers.

What do you guys like about Auro?
auromatic gives me a wide 3D sound stage for movies as well music.And its consistent from movie to movie and song to song.
I heard it's only good for music compared to DSU when it comes to movies
Movie78 is offline  
post #2928 of 6360 Old 10-04-2015, 03:15 PM
Member
 
lurkalot2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Podunk west Michigan
Posts: 39
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Movie78 View Post
I heard it's only good for music compared to DSU when it comes to movies
Many posters share that opinion but others like auromatic for movies its just personal preference. The auro upgrade was worth it for me.

MARANTZ 7702 with Auro Upgrade
Monitor radius 90 (FH) and (SH)
VOG Golden Ear Invisia 525
lurkalot2 is offline  
post #2929 of 6360 Old 10-04-2015, 03:52 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
CBdicX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hello from Holland !
Posts: 3,250
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1606 Post(s)
Liked: 382
@Movie78
I like Auro but sometimes DSU gives a clearer sound, depending on the source, think Auro leans a bit more on the bass.
Auro can give a "higher" sound field depending on the settings used.
Do not like DSU almost not having any parameters to play with, Auromatic has, do not know about Auro3D, have no real Auro3D content played yet.......
CBdicX is offline  
post #2930 of 6360 Old 10-04-2015, 05:18 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Movie78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NY
Posts: 1,524
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 946 Post(s)
Liked: 294
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBdicX View Post
@Movie78
I like Auro but sometimes DSU gives a clearer sound, depending on the source, think Auro leans a bit more on the bass.
Auro can give a "higher" sound field depending on the settings used.
Do not like DSU almost not having any parameters to play with, Auromatic has, do not know about Auro3D, have no real Auro3D content played yet.......
Is there a lot difference between or not?
Even though I like my Yamaha RX-A3050, I just want to make sure I am not missing anything with Auro.
Is Auro a future proof Home Audio format or is only meant theater?
Movie78 is offline  
post #2931 of 6360 Old 10-04-2015, 06:58 PM
Member
 
lurkalot2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Podunk west Michigan
Posts: 39
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked: 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Movie78 View Post
Is there a lot difference between or not?
Even though I like my Yamaha RX-A3050, I just want to make sure I am not missing anything with Auro.
Is Auro a future proof Home Audio format or is only meant theater?
Auromatic is for music and movies. Works for 2 channel,Dolby 5.1, people have used it on atmos encoded blu rays and liked the results. The upmixer should be around for a while. auro 3d is off to a slow start on encoded blu rays. Listening is the only way to tell if auro is for you.

MARANTZ 7702 with Auro Upgrade
Monitor radius 90 (FH) and (SH)
VOG Golden Ear Invisia 525
lurkalot2 is offline  
post #2932 of 6360 Old 10-05-2015, 12:01 AM
Senior Member
 
multit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 413
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 329 Post(s)
Liked: 158
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBdicX View Post
...have no real Auro3D content played yet.......
Not even the Auro-3D demo disc?
It's very easy to get from Auro - just ask friendly via email.
It contains very interesting and useful examples, very good recording samples and test signals.

Home theater room with a 7.2.4 setup,
Yamaha CX-A5200/MX-A5000, JVC X5000, Oppo 203,
nubert nuVero series 14/7/3/5 speakers
multit is offline  
post #2933 of 6360 Old 10-05-2015, 06:39 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
smurraybhm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Down South
Posts: 4,633
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2291 Post(s)
Liked: 3127
Quote:
Originally Posted by multit View Post
Not even the Auro-3D demo disc?
It's very easy to get from Auro - just ask friendly via email.
It contains very interesting and useful examples, very good recording samples and test signals.
He should have gotten one when he bought the update, are they not sending them out to those located on their home continent or has that program stop, haven't been keeping up? Auro for music if you want to use more speakers than the original recording mixed. Personally I am back to just use 2 for 2 - stereo.

There is no perfect display, quit looking for faults and enjoy

LG OLED 65” B7 and 55” C8
Ascend's with RAAL, Love my PSA v1800 and a 7.2.4 speaker config, Oppo 203 and other stuff
smurraybhm is offline  
post #2934 of 6360 Old 10-05-2015, 06:54 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
CBdicX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hello from Holland !
Posts: 3,250
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1606 Post(s)
Liked: 382
Contacted Auro and they are going to sent me a demo disk :-)
Free of charge, good service !
Upgrades run through Denon, not Auro, so Auro will not know who is getting the upgrade......
And on the Auro site its: on request only

Last edited by CBdicX; 10-05-2015 at 06:59 AM.
CBdicX is offline  
post #2935 of 6360 Old 10-05-2015, 09:11 AM
Senior Member
 
multit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 413
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 329 Post(s)
Liked: 158
Quote:
Originally Posted by smurraybhm View Post
Auro for music if you want to use more speakers than the original recording mixed. Personally I am back to just use 2 for 2 - stereo.
If I'm listening very carefully to music and I pay attention only for the music, then I agree and use stereo only. But on all other circumstances... and there are a lot... I like to use Auro-Matic very often due to it's (imho) very good algorithm. There is no destroyed front stage impression, but a smooth enhancing in the whole room, which I like (with Auro standard settings).

Home theater room with a 7.2.4 setup,
Yamaha CX-A5200/MX-A5000, JVC X5000, Oppo 203,
nubert nuVero series 14/7/3/5 speakers
multit is offline  
post #2936 of 6360 Old 10-07-2015, 04:31 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
kbarnes701's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Main Listening Positon
Posts: 27,229
Mentioned: 127 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7738 Post(s)
Liked: 7023
Anyone know anything about this:

Apparently reports are coming in from upgrading Denon users to the effect that Auro is not available on their new units such as the X6200 (replacement for the X5200 which does support Auro via paid FW upgrade). Users with 6200s are reporting that the Auro upgrade option is not available on their new 6200 units.

Anyone know what is going on? Since none of the other mainstream AVR manufacturers (Onkyo, Integra, Pioneer, Yamaha, Sony etc) offer Auro support, if D&M have truly dropped it, then Auro becomes the preserve of only those who can afford ultra-expensive processors.

This could leave Denon owners who enjoy Auro with a quandary. If they upgrade, Auro is not available on the new units, but if they do not upgrade then they also will be denied other features which they may require - eg, HDMI 2.0, HDCP 2.2, DTS:X etc.
kbarnes701 is offline  
post #2937 of 6360 Old 10-07-2015, 06:19 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
smurraybhm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Down South
Posts: 4,633
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2291 Post(s)
Liked: 3127
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post
Anyone know anything about this:

Apparently reports are coming in from upgrading Denon users to the effect that Auro is not available on their new units such as the X6200 (replacement for the X5200 which does support Auro via paid FW upgrade). Users with 6200s are reporting that the Auro upgrade option is not available on their new 6200 units.
Pure speculation, but what else do we have to type about regarding Auro
I wonder if the issues with DTS:X are causing Denon to reconfigure/utilize the processor power for DTS:X, leaving inadequate resources for Auro. Hopefully if that's the case they can find a workaround for those who would like all three. Imagine this gets all cleared up shortly with CEDIA on the horizon. Of course this assumes that reports are indeed accurate.

Otherwise anyone want to buy a 5200 in perfect shape with the Auro upgrade for about $5,000 less than one of those uber expensive processors

There is no perfect display, quit looking for faults and enjoy

LG OLED 65” B7 and 55” C8
Ascend's with RAAL, Love my PSA v1800 and a 7.2.4 speaker config, Oppo 203 and other stuff
smurraybhm is offline  
post #2938 of 6360 Old 10-07-2015, 06:32 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
kbarnes701's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Main Listening Positon
Posts: 27,229
Mentioned: 127 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7738 Post(s)
Liked: 7023
Quote:
Originally Posted by smurraybhm View Post
Pure speculation, but what else do we have to type about regarding Auro
The point is, Steve, it isn't speculation. Owners are actually reporting that their 6200s cannot be upgraded to Auro.

Quote:
Originally Posted by smurraybhm View Post
I wonder if the issues with DTS:X are causing Denon to reconfigure/utilize the processor power for DTS:X, leaving inadequate resources for Auro. Hopefully if that's the case they can find a workaround for those who would like all three. Imagine this gets all cleared up shortly with CEDIA on the horizon. Of course this assumes that reports are indeed accurate.
IDK what the story behind this latest news is. Now that would be speculation of course if I were to opine.

Quote:
Originally Posted by smurraybhm View Post
Otherwise anyone want to buy a 5200 in perfect shape with the Auro upgrade for about $5,000 less than one of those uber expensive processors
Hahaha. Nice one - the American way!
kbarnes701 is offline  
post #2939 of 6360 Old 10-07-2015, 06:44 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
smurraybhm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Down South
Posts: 4,633
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2291 Post(s)
Liked: 3127
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post
The point is, Steve, it isn't speculation. Owners are actually reporting that their 6200s cannot be upgraded to Auro.
Apologies Keith for the misunderstanding - by speculation I meant my post, not anything you were posting about regarding new owners of the 6200. My post clearly is speculation, except for the part about not much to talk about on the Auro front, ex what you have posted could mean for Auro. If its not available on something affordable to most, then I would say for HT it is indeed DOA. Let's hope it gets fixed, because there are a small but passionate number of AVSers who really like Auro, and I'm sure we could add more to the mix (pun intended) if it is still available in 2015-16.

There is no perfect display, quit looking for faults and enjoy

LG OLED 65” B7 and 55” C8
Ascend's with RAAL, Love my PSA v1800 and a 7.2.4 speaker config, Oppo 203 and other stuff
smurraybhm is offline  
post #2940 of 6360 Old 10-07-2015, 06:52 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
RMK!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 95608
Posts: 7,690
Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1712 Post(s)
Liked: 1661
From a German website the X6200 specs. Took me all of 30 seconds to vet this owner reported rumor


Remote
Yes
Dolby Atmos
Yes
Auro 3D
Yes (Paid online upgrade, which is available from December for various Denon and Marantz premium AVR models on the Denon website (RRP: € 149, -).
Stereo
Yes
Dolby Prologic IIz
No
Dolby Prologic IIx
No
Dolby ProLogic II
No
Dolby Digital EX
Yes
Dolby Digital
Yes
Dolby Headphone
Yes
Dolby True HD
Yes
DTS NEO: x
Yes
DTS NEO: 6
No
DTS-ES 6.1
No
DTS 96/24
Yes
DTS-HD
Yes
Audyssey DSX
Yes
DTS: X
Yes (from summer 2015)
Speakers Number
5.1.4
DTS: X, Dolby Atmos and Auro 3D
THX
No
Ohm
6
Output power
9 x 205 Watt
HDCP 2.2 (color signal: YCbCr 4: 4: 4)
Yes HDCP 2.2 is installed and on Board
HDCP 1.4
Yes
HDMI input ports
8 x HDMI 2.2
HDMI output terminals
3 x HDMI 2.2
Dimensions (W x H x D)
434 x 167 x 389 mm
Weight
14.2 kg
Housing color
Silver
Standby Power Consumption
0.1 watts, 0.5 watts (with HDMI control), 2.7 watts (network standby)
particularities
9.2 Channel Network AV Receiver with WiFi, Bluetooth and Dolby Atmos, DTS: X, menu improvements
Manufacturer Warranty
3 year (24 + 12 months of registering).

Anxiety is contagious, please keep yours to yourself.
RMK! is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply Receivers, Amps, and Processors

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off