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^ P5 has five power supplies - one per channel. One cord feeds three channels, the other feeds two plus the control circuit (whole amp turns off if this is one disconnected). Connecting the two surrounds to this side can help distribute the overall load if this cord is connected to the same circuit as the Sub2 since two surrounds normally don't work as hard as three fronts, likely not even close with your speaker models.

Two 15A circuits are needed if sustained full-output use from all channels is expected, but you'd have be playing considerably louder than at present. If it's a 20A circuit, it may be enough for the entire P5 plus another major component other than the Sub2.

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If that is correct, then I understand where the question is coming from. I do not, however, understand the value in attempting to correct for high frequencies given the very short wavelengths.
That's because there is no value in it. Indeed, 5kHz is IMO too high for room correction. 500Hz is about right. The great thing about ARC is that the user can choose a top-end cutoff lower than the default.

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Maybe not important if ARC on AVM60 can correct up to 20khz, but i would really like ARC to support IOS(Apple)
You mean OSX, right?

(iOS would be fine too, actually. But maybe ARC needs Intel horsepower.)

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You mean OSX, right?

(iOS would be fine too, actually. But maybe ARC needs Intel horsepower.)
Sorry, yes i meant todays standard of MacBook/Imac with OSX.
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(iOS would be fine too, actually. But maybe ARC needs Intel horsepower.)
The ARC calculations finish so fast on my desktop I can't see it running for that long on a mobile device either. And if it were to take a bit longer I think it's much more convenient for people. Easier to install the app. Now the microphone may be a problem unless it's bluetooth.
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i just read up on anthem's newest addition, the avm 60. It is on display at munich high end 2015!

http://www.electronichouse.com/daily...by-atmos-dtsx/





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someone at Anthem, told me that will cost $ 2,995.00
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$3k?! That would be awesome. I'm not going to hold my breath on that though. Considering the MRX710 goes for $2k and is an eight channel unit, I'd be surprised if this 12 channel unit really gets that low. Wouldn't that be the least expensive pre-pro Anthem has ever done?
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The AVM20 was ~$2000, I think it was a bit more than that maybe $2500.
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US MSRPs for the models mentioned:
AVM 2 (5.1) $2199 15 years ago (introductory, then it went up)
AVM 20 (7.1) $3199 14 years ago, v2 $3399 13 years ago
AVM 60 (11.1) to be determined in a few months, likely no sooner than Cedia

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I knew I got a deal on my AVM20 V2, guess it was better than I remembered

If the AVM60 is in the $3k ballpark, call me interested. If it follows the historical trend and has something like an $8k MSRP, not so much. I don't even use the video side of my 50V, and I don't have the "golden ears" to notice/care about the difference in sonic quality between an AVM and a Statement, so if I can get something with the Anthem support/build quality and the latest features, for a reasonable price, well yeah, that's interesting.
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Will the AVM 60 replace the AVM 50v? Where will the AVM 60 be manufactured? To be honest I prefer the look of the AVM50v over the AVM 60. The AVM 50 has a more substantial build quality to it IMO. If the AVM 60 will cost around $3k then I can see the cut back in build quality over the AVM 50v.

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Overseas. Same metalwork as MRX - up close with various units side by side does a lot more justice than photos. The building materials and thicknesses happen to be the same or very similar through our range, with exception of Statement top cover being aluminum instead of steel. Discontinue made-here high-end 7.1? Not as long as there's demand (this is more about CI which routinely uses HDMI matrix switchers) and the choices on the market meeting these criteria keep getting slimmer.

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No Auro-3D

i'm a bit concerned that Auro-3D is not part of that new AVM series (e.g. no logos, no vog channel out). I wouldn't say the market is decided already. What is Anthems take on Auro technology, any good reason for not supporting that today or in future?
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i'm a bit concerned that Auro-3D is not part of that new AVM series (e.g. no logos, no vog channel out). I wouldn't say the market is decided already. What is Anthems take on Auro technology, any good reason for not supporting that today or in future?
Seriously? Auro is done. And I LOVE Auro. By far the best demo disc out for any object based format, but it will not be a contender. No way.
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Seriously? Auro is done. And I LOVE Auro. By far the best demo disc out for any object based format, but it will not be a contender. No way.
Auro isn't an Object based format.
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Auro isn't an Object based format.
You're right, it isn't. I wrote that a little sloppily without thinking, but I basically meant any of the new "3D" sound formats.

In fact the Auro Demos I heard have been more impressive than any Atmos Demos I have heard.

It's just not a realistic format at this point. Especially once DTS:X gets rolling. Just too hard for them to compete.
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You're right, it isn't. I wrote that a little sloppily without thinking, but I basically meant any of the new "3D" sound formats.

In fact the Auro Demos I heard have been more impressive than any Atmos Demos I have heard.

It's just not a realistic format at this point. Especially once DTS:X gets rolling. Just too hard for them to compete.
I"m still holding out till I get to compare all three as I've only got Atmos 7.2.4 at the moment and must admit I'm extremely impressed with both native content and DSU! Hope it works out for them all
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In fact the Auro Demos I heard have been more impressive than any Atmos Demos I have heard.
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I"m still holding out till I get to compare all three ... impressed with both native content and DSU! Hope it works out for them all
When reading various reports I got the impression that ppl were more excited about Auro and Auro-Matic (upconverted 5.1) than about Atmos. I also got the impression it might be easier to deal with in production and mixin because of its straight forward approach to the subject.
While learning that the 2nd Sub out of the AVM60 would be always the very same signal as 1st one i wonder if this connector was planned for a VoG channel and an Auro compatible product at first and finally got changed at some point down the product dev cycle.

Why is this product pic feat. 2 wifi antennas anyway? Is this for network streaming capabilities? Just for ARC setup puropose MIMO would be a lil too excessive, no?
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While learning that the 2nd Sub out of the AVM60 would be always the very same signal as 1st one i wonder if this connector was planned for a VoG channel and an Auro compatible product at first and finally got changed at some point down the product dev cycle.
That's exactly how every Anthem processor ever made has worked. I imagine it's just a carryover from prior designs.
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That's exactly how every Anthem processor ever made has worked. I imagine it's just a carryover from prior designs.
but AFAIK they always refused to make technically questionable things - so in case of sub out you had to use a Y-cable for connecting multiple subs in case you wanted to. Adding just sibling connectors on the back panels looks a lil like snake oil to me.... it just doesn't fit Anthems philosophy of the past, does it?
Just figured, in AVM50 and D2 they had sub2/center2 or zone2 r/l selectable for those outs.... what happend to center2, what about zone2?

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^ Parallel outputs are more convenient than y-cables. For four subs, use y-splitters behind two of the subs and daisy-chain the other two. Sometimes center channel speakers are used above and blow the screen, but it's not that common so center2 is gone. Installing zone amps in the remote zone instead of the main rack didn't turn out to be very common either, so reassigning balanced-outs to Z2 is also gone.

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Why is this product pic feat. 2 wifi antennas anyway?
The phone app, ARC, and DTS Play-Fi music streaming use network connection. Wireless network connection just makes it more convenient. Two antennas in different directions increase reception, often best with the antennas perpendicular to one another if not in parallel with the router's.

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... DTS Play-Fi music streaming ...
havn't heard of DTS Play-Fi before ... so AVM line gets DLNA compatibility... good news for ppl that prefer data networks over audio cables.... i wonder how well that Play-Fi thing is up to DLNA sort of standards
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Official spec & RRP being discussed in another thread

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^ They're estimates and only for a local market (international markets are subject to varying degrees of importation costs and VAT). Official pricing is tbd, and from the parts of the chart that I can read there's an inaccuracy - load monitoring is n/a to AVM 60.
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^ They're estimates and only for a local market (international markets are subject to varying degrees of importation costs and VAT). Official pricing is tbd, and from the parts of the chart that I can read there's an inaccuracy - load monitoring is n/a to AVM 60.
So Nick, is the rest of the chart accurate? I'm concerned mainly with whether the 720 will process 11 channels even though it can amplify only seven. And whether it will allow a 7.1.4 Atmos system with 4 channels of external amplification. Thanks.
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^ The MRX 720 runs 7.1.4 speakers if external amplification is connected for the height channels. With a 5.1.4 configuration the back channel amps can be reassigned to zone 2.

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Really looks like a unit that should cost closer to $2k to me. Couple of features I would like to see, #1 is usb port for hi-res audio files (FLAC 192kx24bit support and DSD). Would also like to see THX certified like its predecessors. Would like to go Anthem when I jump to object based processing but if this unit is $3k I think Marantz may be a better bang for my buck especially since they offer Auro as well although a paid upgrade... Thinking with this unit not being built in Canada this price point is possible...
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^ The MRX 720 runs 7.1.4 speakers if external amplification is connected for the height channels. With a 5.1.4 configuration the back channel amps can be reassigned to zone 2.
So no amp assignment, i.e. use a seven channel amp for the floor speakers and the internal amps for the heights? (Or external amps for LCR/side/front height, with internal amps for rear and rear height, etc.)

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Really looks like a unit that should cost closer to $2k to me. Couple of features I would like to see, #1 is usb port for hi-res audio files (FLAC 192kx24bit support and DSD).
Why? External players are always light years ahead of the players built into TVs/AVRs/etc.

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I guess I'd like to know what good this does?
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