How do you get the apps for music to display on the tv with x1200?

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Press the ONLINE MUSIC button on the remote.

Yes and I can hear the music but it won't appear on the tv only the avr display.
My tv says no signal.

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Try doing a soft reset by unplugging the power cord for 10 minutes.

Do I need to do that? I'm getting hdmi signal with cable and satellite tv.

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Well, that worked. Thanks!

Somehow it worked. Also do we know how come Denon decided to inconvenience the customer by doing zone two with only pre outs to have to get an amp?

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Inconvenienced how? The X1200W is a 7CH AVR. If you have 7 speakers in the main zone, you've used the on board amps up and must use a 2CH amp for Zone 2. If you drop down to only 5 speakers in the main zone, the X1200W can power the Zone 2 speakers (ie. 5+2=7).

With my old Sr805 and the n646 you could drive all 7 speakers and still had a zone 2 speaker connection.


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Man too bad Onkyo did away with Audyssey. That's the main reason for a possible return this week. The zone two speaker on the n646 makes me think about the return or not. Confused here lol

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According to page 18 of the nr646 manual, 5.1 is the max when powering the zone 2 speakers from the receiver. The only way to do 7.1 plus zone 2 is to use pre outs, just like with the 7 channel Denon models

Denon doesn't have a prayer of getting any money out of me this year after not offering DTS:X for my 5200. But I guess their marketing department figures I'll cool off before the 2016 season. We'll see.

The Onkyo 646 has for pre out for external amp or you can use the dedicated speaker terminals on it's dedicated zone 2 speaker connection.
The Denon has only for 7 speaker connection.
I have the n646 running zone 2 with the zone 2 wire connection. I had to try it and works.
No need for an external amp.
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I don't have much room in the living room to go with 7 channels even though that would be nice someday.

Does the 510 not have a setup wizard, from the Denon site it appears that it does?

Well looks like you're never buying an AVR again ever because NO other manufacturers are providing DTS:X for their 2014 models either! OOPS!

From what we've heard DTS:X hasn't even delivered code to the AVR manufacturers, even the 2015 models don't have it yet! At this point who knows if it will make it in time for the end of 2015? Doesn't it seem a bit silly now to be pissy about not getting this feature on the model you bought last year when it may not even be available in time for the launch of the product that replaces it??

Well, if you want to be logical about the whole thing . . .

In fairness--and as a fellow X5200 owner--it is my understanding that Denon intended to provide a DTS:X upgrade for the X5200 based on a projected codec availability date reasonably close to the X5200 launch in fall 2014. When that availability slipped (excuse me, fell down a rabbit hole) and the 2015 model refresh date approached, Denon recalculated. It may not please us owners, but it is understandable IMHO that they would do so while still intending to provide the update for the flagship model X7200, which will not be replaced until model year 2016.

I don't blame Denon, but rather lay any fault at the door of DTS and their vaporware (which I am nonetheless more than eager to have in my next AVR, Denon or not!).

How important is to have an avr that does video analog conversion/upscaling?

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It works while also playing 7 channels in the main zone? Or do your surround backs turn off?

This is a gripe of mine as well, I have a 5.1.4 setup but also two outdoor speakers and never will I use both Zone1 & Zone2 simultaneously. Since the X6200 has 11 posts and 9 amps, I had thought for sure I could hook up all 11 speakers (9 Zone1 + 2 Zone2) and the X6200 would route the 8th and 9th amp to the 10th and 11th posts that I assigned as Zone2 when playing that zone; alas I was wrong.

My understanding is that the surround backs should turn off when playing zone 2 on the Onkyo 646 (without an external amp). So you can hook up both a 7-channel main zone and a 2-channel second zone at the same time (just dropping to 5.1 in the main zone when zone 2 is active). This is something the 7-channel Denons can't do because they don't have enough speaker posts on the back. The surround heights/backs share the zone 2 posts.

One additional thing I noticed, it appears that with the audio pre-outs on the 646, you could hook up another amp to drive a even a third zone. I'm curious as to whether this would be possible at the same time as the 646 is playing 5.1 + zone 2 stereo.

Yes, you are correct. I edited my previous post to reflect this.

Best Buy has the 4100 for $850. Do you know if will get the DTS upgrade?

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The X4100W is a 2014 model on clearance as the X4200W is due to be released next week. Only the 2015 models listed in this thread (except the S510BT) will get the DTS:X update.

I think it's a pretty good deal considering it had XT32. I wonder if the dts x content will take off. I don't see much content with neo x. Or the one format that the expandables movie had.

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DTS Neo:X is not a format as are DTS, DTS HD, and DTS HD-MA, rather it is a simulation surround mode as are Dolby Surround and DTS Neural:X.

Thank you!
Now according from what I've read the x1200 has 6 hdmi 2.0 and only one 2.2?


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Please review the information I have provided in post #1 of this thread.

K all hdmi inputs and outputs support 2.2 that's good.

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This is interesting that denon has made all seven hdmi inputs on their 2015 receivers (910 for instance) 2.2 compatible while all other mainstream avr's only have three or less with 2.2. Sony 1060 only has one from what i can tell and my 646 has three out of 8 2.2 compatible.

The 9-channel Denons with 11 posts (7200 & 6200) also cannot do this from what I've been told.