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JD - Point four int he instructions says tap the "*' icon to connect tot he unit...
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The icon should be displaying on the Spotify Connect app. If not, you might want to try deleting and reloading the Spotify app.
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The icon should be displaying on the Spotify Connect app. If not, you might want to try deleting and reloading the Spotify app.
Thanks .... works like a charm.
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Marantz n4 1506 shutting off under high volume:

Hi, I purchased a refurbished nr 1506 and have been very happy with it, but have had one major problem that has gotten to be very annoying: When played at higher volumes the receiver repeatedly powers off.

I am using it in a stereo setup with a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 220's and, based on my retailers advice to fix this problem, I supplemented them with a Klipsch R-10SW. Currently, I have the crossover set at 80hz, but this thing continues to shutdown with heavy bass. For reference: Rock usually shuts it down with volume in the 75 range and action scenes in movies + music with heavy bass will shut it down when its over 70. Obviously, I'm very new to this, but I'd like to know if this is 'normal' or I need to push the retailer for a replacement.

Thanks for any help!
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Marantz nr 1506 shutting off under high volume:

Hi, I purchased a refurbished nr 1506 and have been very happy with it, but have had one major problem that has gotten to be very annoying: When played at higher volumes the receiver repeatedly powers off.

I am using it in a stereo setup with a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 220's and, based on my retailers advice to fix this problem, I supplemented them with a Klipsch R-10SW. Currently, I have the crossover set at 80hz, but this thing continues to shutdown with heavy bass. For reference: Rock usually shuts it down with volume in the 75 range and action scenes in movies + music with heavy bass will shut it down when its over 70. Obviously, I'm very new to this, but I'd like to know if this is 'normal' or I need to push the retailer for a replacement.

Thanks for any help!
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I think something is wrong with the AVR. Those speakers are not that much of a power hog IMO.

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Marantz nr 1506 shutting off under high volume:

Hi, I purchased a refurbished nr 1506 and have been very happy with it, but have had one major problem that has gotten to be very annoying: When played at higher volumes the receiver repeatedly powers off.

I am using it in a stereo setup with a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 220's and, based on my retailers advice to fix this problem, I supplemented them with a Klipsch R-10SW. Currently, I have the crossover set at 80hz, but this thing continues to shutdown with heavy bass. For reference: Rock usually shuts it down with volume in the 75 range and action scenes in movies + music with heavy bass will shut it down when its over 70. Obviously, I'm very new to this, but I'd like to know if this is 'normal' or I need to push the retailer for a replacement.

Thanks for any help!
Sounds like it needs replacing.

Though, for the absolute best results when playing at reference levels you should use a robust separate power amp (if your receiver has pre-amp outs - the 1506 has them for the front L/R and subwoofer EDIT). The built-in amps in lower level receivers, especially, are pretty puny.

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Marantz nr 1506 shutting off under high volume:

Hi, I purchased a refurbished nr 1506 and have been very happy with it, but have had one major problem that has gotten to be very annoying: When played at higher volumes the receiver repeatedly powers off.

I am using it in a stereo setup with a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 220's and, based on my retailers advice to fix this problem, I supplemented them with a Klipsch R-10SW. Currently, I have the crossover set at 80hz, but this thing continues to shutdown with heavy bass. For reference: Rock usually shuts it down with volume in the 75 range and action scenes in movies + music with heavy bass will shut it down when its over 70. Obviously, I'm very new to this, but I'd like to know if this is 'normal' or I need to push the retailer for a replacement.

Thanks for any help!
These are fairly inefficient speakers so shutting down at the higher volume levels would not be unusual. You would be better served adding a more robust external amp connected to the FL/FR pre-outs.
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I was looking for the NR1606 and I can see it's on sale for $499 almost everywhere. Then I realized that the new NR1607 is already out for $699. This is for my bedroom setup, a 2.1 system with B&W 686 S2 speakers and Rythmik Audio LVX12 subwoofer. On this system I do 80% TV/Movies and 20% music. I'm replacing a Denon DM39-S Mini System. Am I missing something going with the NR1606 instead of the NR1607?

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I was looking for the NR1606 and I can see it's on sale for $499 almost everywhere. Then I realized that the new NR1607 is already out for $699. This is for my bedroom setup, a 2.1 system with B&W 686 S2 speakers and Rythmik Audio LVX12 subwoofer. On this system I do 80% TV/Movies and 20% music. I'm replacing a Denon DM39-S Mini System. Am I missing something going with the NR1606 instead of the NR1607?
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I am using it in a stereo setup with a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 220's and, based on my retailers advice to fix this problem, I supplemented them with a Klipsch R-10SW. Currently, I have the crossover set at 80hz, but this thing continues to shutdown with heavy bass. For reference: Rock usually shuts it down with volume in the 75 range and action scenes in movies + music with heavy bass will shut it down when its over 70. Obviously, I'm very new to this, but I'd like to know if this is 'normal' or I need to push the retailer for a replacement.
http://manuals.marantz.com/NR1506/NA...SYtgugzsae.php

After shutdown, if the power LED flashes red every 2 seconds, then it was a thermal shutdown. In that case it's probably normal, especially if it's not well ventilated.
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After shutdown, if the power LED flashes red every 2 seconds, then it was a thermal shutdown. In that case it's probably normal, especially if it's not well ventilated.
Thanks for the guidance. The receiver is blinking much more rapidly so it must be a 'turn down the volume' issue, but this is at levels that are just starting to get near where I'd want to listen to a movie. I will continue trouble shooting.
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Thanks for the guidance. The receiver is blinking much more rapidly so it must be a 'turn down the volume' issue, but this is at levels that are just starting to get near where I'd want to listen to a movie. I will continue trouble shooting.
How far away is the Main Listening Position (MLP) from the speakers? If you did the Audyssey auto-calibration, check the distances as they are pretty accurate.

Note that the sensitivity of the Wharfedale Diamond 220 bookshelves are only 86dB/W/m, so you'd want to be sitting close to them.

The other issue is the minimum impedance of 4.1 ohms (around 224Hz). These are hard to drive speakers and if you want to crank the volume up on the NR-1506, the amp section is going to struggle and probably shutdown into thermal protection. Believe this is what you're experiencing now.

Edit: As suggested by jdsmoothie, might want to consider an external amp such as the Behringer A500 which is rated to drive 4 ohm loads.

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Just installed my 7010, anyone know how to get the volume louder? I literally hear nothing till I hit a volume level of 50-60 which seems a bit ridiculous to me
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Just installed my 7010, anyone know how to get the volume louder? I literally hear nothing till I hit a volume level of 50-60 which seems a bit ridiculous to me
That's a good question. I noticed that I had to use more volume to make the 6010 sound the same as my X4000.

I ended up returning the 6010. The X4200 should be here any day now.
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Just installed my 7010, anyone know how to get the volume louder? I literally hear nothing till I hit a volume level of 50-60 which seems a bit ridiculous to me
D+M AVRs use a logarithmic volume scale such that average volume (after running Audyssey and when not using Dynamic Volume) will be about 50-70.
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D+M AVRs use a logarithmic volume scale such that average volume (after running Audyssey and when not using Dynamic Volume) will be about 50-70.
That value of 50 - 70 is spot on with what I find my setting to be on the 7010.
Initially I thought the amp must be underpowered but my dealer explained things and now I just sit back and enjoy.
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It's always a better idea to set the volume scale on dB (-79dB to 18dB) so in that way you will know how far or close you are from reference levels (0dB)
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Thats all I use, so I know 0.0 is reference. We generally watch Directv around -8 to -10, and Blu-ray 0.0 to -2.0.
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Thats all I use, so I know 0.0 is reference. We generally watch Directv around -8 to -10, and Blu-ray 0.0 to -2.0.
Hi,
I think I may be missing something here because I just switched from the linear scale, which was reading at 60 and was plenty loud, to the decibel scale which showed a reading of -20.
i couldn't get close to 0, it would blow the windows out of the house !
What is the advantage of the decibel scale ? Does it tell you more than the linear scale or is it just a preference ?
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I think I may be missing something here because I just switched from the linear scale, which was reading at 60 and was plenty loud, to the decibel scale which showed a reading of -20.
i couldn't get close to 0, it would blow the windows out of the house !
What is the advantage of the decibel scale ? Does it tell you more than the linear scale or is it just a preference ?
Regards, Alex.
Just easier for me to know 0.0 is reference level for me, than whatever the other scale is. My room here has always been around reference level for blu-ray. Im about 10.5 ft from the speakers and the room is over 5000 cuft.

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Just easier for me to know 0.0 is reference level for me, than whatever the other scale is. My room here has always been around reference level for blu-ray. Im about 10.5 ft from the speakers and the room is over 5000 cuft.
O.K.,
That makes sense and when I move in to my new dedicated room (soon) it may be the way to go for me. At the moment, in this much smaller space it doesn't really help because I can't get anywhere near the reference value of 0.
Thanks for the explanation. I never knew why some preferred the decibel scale.
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It's always a better idea to set the volume scale on dB (-79dB to 18dB) so in that way you will know how far or close you are from reference levels (0dB)
It's exactly the same information, just displayed with negative numbers or not (0dB=80).
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It's always a better idea to set the volume scale on dB (-79dB to 18dB) so in that way you will know how far or close you are from reference levels (0dB)
Sure, if you have a dedicated home theater; however, for most owners where the AVR is in the family room, the "absolute" scale (0-99) is much easier to comprehend for wives and kids ... increasing numbers means volume gets louder and decreasing numbers means volume gets quieter.
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Sorry if this was asked before. Is it necessary to run audyssey again if the mode is changed from front height to top front, with no changes in speaker position?

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Sorry if this was asked before. Is it necessary to run audyssey again if the mode is changed from front height to top front, with no changes in speaker position?

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Yup. The AVR doesn't know there has been no change in position or even that you're using the same speakers.
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Hey Jd.. Is there a way to see the incoming bitrate on the front display?

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AFAIK, no.
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AFAIK, no.
Hmm, that's unfortunate. I've found the one thing my old unit could do that the 7010 can't.

I don't see it on the info screen either, so I'm assuming bitrate info is not available anywhere? The only place I've seen anything similar so far is when playing spotify or pandora on the Marantz IOS app. It shows the bitrate at the bottom where the decoding mode appears for movies.

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Hi,
I wonder if JD (or anyone ) could help me out with a frustrating problem.
When Video Conversion is set to on (which I would prefer it not to be) I get multicoloured text on documents and in some apps. Some letters are orange/red , others blue and the rest black.
When Video Conversion is set to off then the text is all as it should be but I lose the on screen display, on the TV, for volume and sound modes.
I would like to have no video conversion but retain the OSD for sound modes and volume or , failing that , have the video conversion on but have the correct text displayed.
Is there anything I can do to achieve this?

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dear all,
an advise for the following scenario if you please ....

I own an SR7010 and i have a 5.1.2 system with Dali Zensor 3 (FL/FR), zensor Vocal, Zenor 1 & pico (surrounds) - (these are 6 ohm speakers)
I am pleased with the system, and the 7010 drives it well.....but i want a better sound for music so i'm considering to upgrade my Fronts with Dali Opticon 6 and center with opticon Vokal. (Opticon series are 4 Ohm)

Do you think the 7010 can drive the 4ohm speakers in parallel with the 6ohm surrounds or will i need an external amp.
If you think the 7010 will be fine i'll give it a try....
If you think i'll need extra amplification the options (affordable and easy to find options) aren't many .....
I can get in my hands a Marantz mm7055 but officially marantz says its not designed for 4ohm speakers, so one option will be to drive the 4 surrounds from MM7055 and 7010 take care of the L-R-C 4ohm speakers .... do you think that 7010 can handle the 3 4ohm speakers ?

for the record, my listening space is about 20m2 with big openings left & right, and i dont listen music at very high volumes.
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