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I have a SR7007 and hoping to do an upgrade soon. Any reason why I shouldnt snatch a SR7009 on the cheap and wait foe the SR7010?
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Question Upgrade question

I have a question for you guys, I currently own the Marantz SR5008 and was thinking of upgrading to one of the 2015 models. A buddy of mine suggested the NR1606. Isn't that technically a downgrade from the model I currently have? If so, could you guys explain the differences to and if there would be another model you would recommend to me?
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I have a question for you guys, I currently own the Marantz SR5008 and was thinking of upgrading to one of the 2015 models. A buddy of mine suggested the NR1606. Isn't that technically a downgrade from the model I currently have? If so, could you guys explain the differences to and if there would be another model you would recommend to me?
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The SR5008 has a larger power supply and will do 100W into solid 2-channel stereo mode while the NR1606 is about half that.

The SR5008 also has Audyssey XT which is also the higher room correction algorithm, but not as good as Audyssey XT32. The SR5008 also has 7.1 analogue inputs/outputs. Two more stereo channel inputs on the SR5008. Also an additional HDMI output on the SR5008. Additional optical and coax digital inputs.

The NR1606 has Atmos and DTS:X, together with the new up-mixing algorithms. Plus the 2015 receivers all have HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 if you're interested in connecting up with that new 4k TV.

So the SR5008 has different features to the NR1606 and only you can decide if what's important for you.

Personally, as sound quality is of higher priority, Audyssey XT32 would be on the top of the list of must have features on the receiver. Edit: for 2015 Marantz receivers, Audyssey XT32 is only available on the SR7010.

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I have a SR7007 and hoping to do an upgrade soon. Any reason why I shouldnt snatch a SR7009 on the cheap and wait foe the SR7010?
If you want dtsx and hdcp 2.2, wait. Otherwise, snatch up
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I have a SR7007 and hoping to do an upgrade soon. Any reason why I shouldnt snatch a SR7009 on the cheap and wait foe the SR7010?
Hi blue13x,

If you don't care much for 4k or don't plan on being the guinea pig of the ever changing UHD landscape, the SR7009 which has the higher Audyssey XT32 room correction algorithm would be a smarter move from a cost prespective.
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Hi Wernerth,

The SR5008 has a larger power supply and will do 100W into solid 2-channel stereo mode while the NR1606 is about half that.

The SR5008 also has Audyssey XT which is also the higher room correction algorithm, but not as good as Audyssey XT32. The SR5008 also has 7.1 analogue inputs/outputs. Two more stereo channel inputs on the SR5008. Also an additional HDMI output on the SR5008. Additional optical and coax digital inputs.

The NR1606 has Atmos and DTS:X, together with the new up-mixing algorithms. Plus the 2015 receivers all have HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 if you're interested in connecting up with that new 4k TV.

So the SR5008 has different features to the NR1606 and only you can decide if what's important for you.

Personally, as sound quality is of higher priority, Audyssey XT32 would be on the top of the list of must have features on the receiver. Edit: for 2015 Marantz receivers, Audyssey XT32 is only available on the SR7010.
Thank you for this information. I was indeed thinking of going for an upgrade because of my Sony xbr65x950b. But that tv has two hdmi ports that support the UHD Blu-Ray specs. I have the feeling that I would be better off sticking with my current model for a bit longer. I've only had it for about a year.
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If you don't care much for 4k or don't plan on being the guinea pig of the ever changing UHD landscape, the SR7009 which has the higher Audyssey XT32 room correction algorithm would be a smarter move from a cost prespective.
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If you want dtsx and hdcp 2.2, wait. Otherwise, snatch up
Basically I have Samsung F8000 and dont care for 4K right now. My setup are Klipsch RF-62II/RC-52 II and 52 II surrounds and a SvSound PC 13 Ultra sub.

So basically a 5.1. Any benefits from DTS X? How about aound signature and quality? Amp?
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DTS X will only be important if you plan to or want the option to add ceiling speakers, height speakers, or upfiring modules to get overhead sound. Otherwise don't worry about it
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Basically I have Samsung F8000 and dont care for 4K right now. My setup are Klipsch RF-62II/RC-52 II and 52 II surrounds and a SvSound PC 13 Ultra sub.

So basically a 5.1. Any benefits from DTS X? How about around signature and quality? Amp?
If you are pretty sure that you are not going to expand beyond 5.1 and won't go into Atmos or the other similar formats, you can save a lot from 2nd hand or last generation models. Eg a Marantz 7008 will do nicely.
That's the oldest model with Audyssey XT 32, which IMO is quite useful.
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If you are pretty sure that you are not going to expand beyond 5.1 and won't go into Atmos or the other similar formats, you can save a lot from 2nd hand or last generation models. Eg a Marantz 7008 will do nicely.
That's the oldest model with Audyssey XT 32, which IMO is quite useful.
Will the 7010 offer anything new in terms of more power per channel?
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Will the 7010 offer anything new in terms of more power per channel?
Nope. Should be the same 125W/2CH as the SR7009.
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DTS X will only be important if you plan to or want the option to add ceiling speakers, height speakers, or upfiring modules to get overhead sound. Otherwise don't worry about it
You haven't read up on DTS's marketing for DTS:X if you are making the statement above. Supposedly they will offer a way to enjoy the "virtual effects" of overhead sound for those running a 5.1 or 7.1 traditional setup. I would also expect those with DTS:X to enjoy the advantages of object based sound - more precise - which has been obvious when one listens to what has been released using Atmos.

Way to early and too much unknown to dismiss DTS:X and any benefits it may offer to those without overhead speakers so quickly. Seriously, do you know something the rest of us on AVS don't?

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Imo the 7010 construct will be similar to its predecessors. So no real gain.
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DTS X will only be important if you plan to or want the option to add ceiling speakers, height speakers, or upfiring modules to get overhead sound. Otherwise don't worry about it
You haven't read up on DTS's marketing for DTS:X if you are making the statement above. Supposedly they will offer a way to enjoy the "virtual effects" of overhead sound for those running a 5.1 or 7.1 traditional setup. I would also expect those with DTS:X to enjoy the advantages of object based sound - more precise - which has been obvious when one listens to what has been released using Atmos.

Way to early and too much unknown to dismiss DTS:X and any benefits it may offer to those without overhead speakers so quickly. Seriously, do you know something the rest of us on AVS don't?
I guess I'm not 100% familiar with DTS marketing material, but according to sdurani in post 26337 of the Atmos thread (sorry, can't figure out how to link it on my phone here, but it's about ten pages back on the mobile forum and less on the pc), the Atmos objects are not decoded without height, ceiling, or upfiring speakers (he didn't mention wides so those may result in decoding as well)--you simply get the 7.1 TrueHD track. The same may be true of DTS X, or it may not, but the realist in me says DTS X will probably behave similarly. I could be wrong. Though if we're talking about a 500-1000 dollar difference in price, some simulated height effects that may or may not enhance the experience much, implemented in a way we know nothing about, seems a risky proposition.
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Basically I have Samsung F8000 and dont care for 4K right now. My setup are Klipsch RF-62II/RC-52 II and 52 II surrounds and a SvSound PC 13 Ultra sub.

So basically a 5.1. Any benefits from DTS X? How about aound signature and quality? Amp?
The sensitivity numbers for your Klipsch speakers are:
RF-62ii: 97dB/W/m
RC-52ii: 96dB/W/m
RS-52ii: 95dB/W/m

Those are quite sensitive speakers and doesn't take a lot of power to get loud. Taking the lowest sensitivity numbers (95dB/W/m for the surrounds) and according to this web app: http://myhometheater.homestead.com/splcalculator.html, with the speakers are away from the walls and the Main Listening Position (MLP) about 12' from the speakers the receiver's amps only needs a continuous power of just 0.67W per channel in stereo mode (2 channels) to reach reference level of 85dB. A 20dB headroom means the receiver needs to do about 67W per channel - assuming the full range signals are going to the speakers. Because you've got bass management available on the receiver and can redirect the power hungry low frequency reproduction to your sub (SVS PC ultra 13), most likely you're never going to require those 67W per channel.

Your current SR7007 can easily meet the power requirements to reach reference level. The same for the SR7009 and SR7010. Note that most find reference level too loud and will turn it down by -10dB.
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I'm stuck between the Denon AVR 910w and Marantz NR1506..are they both going to have the same quality of sound? (Going to be pushing rythmik lvr 12 with ascend book shelf l/c/r) (music and movies only)

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I'm stuck between the Denon AVR 910w and Marantz NR1506..are they both going to have the same quality of sound? (Going to be pushing rythmik lvr 12 with ascend book shelf l/c/r) (music and movies only)
Yes, although the SR1506 comes with main zone 2.2 pre-outs if you wanted to add an external amp as well as a 3 year warranty..
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Well... My Onkyo NR905 is officially dead after 8 years and i'm pretty upset to have paid so much for so few years. The cost to fix it is over 600$ so time to move on and i'm looking at Marantz NR1605 at a very nice price of 599$ but the new one (1606) is coming next month..... Should i pull the trigger now or wait for the 1606? Reliability is an important factor for me...

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IMO, the Onkyo 905 was a solid amp, despite the heat issues.
Most other brands will have similar MTBF, but they should be better than those old Onkyo amps simply because they don't have the same heat issues.
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Well... My Onkyo NR905 is officially dead after 8 years and i'm pretty upset to have paid so much for so few years. The cost to fix it is over 600$ so time to move on and i'm looking at Marantz NR1605 at a very nice price of 599$ but the new one (1606) is coming next month..... Should i pull the trigger now or wait for the 1606? Reliability is an important factor for me...

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I see that you're in Canada, so the costs are going to be a bit higher than for folks who live state side and can call up jdmsoothie for a quote.

Think that 8 years is quite a long time for modern electronics and with the rapid advancement of technological change, obsolescence is more of a concern than failure. If you're concerned about failure, the Marantz products carry a 3 year warranty from the manufacturer and if you pay by credit card, you might get an additional year from the card company. You can also obtain additional warranty coverage from the shop if extra assurance is required.

What is your current setup and future plans are? What are your speaker's sensitivity and how loud do you want to go? This will determine the path in which to travel down in terms of receiver purchase. If cost is an issue, getting previous generation model is a smarter move if one is willing to compromise on features being rolled out for 2015.

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Thanks! I think i'll stick with the 1605 then. My home theater is in a small closed room (10 x 10) Pioneer Elite Pro FD1 with Kef speakers. I really thought honestly that a 2K $ receiver would last at least 15 years... At 599$ for the 1605 it looks like a really good deal and i guess it will perform as good as my old Onkyo.... You were right with the heat issue...boy... my room wasn't never heated at all during winter ... the Onkyo was doing the job by itself!
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I wonder if AVS will be carrying the Marantz NR 1606?
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Yes, AVS Science will carry the Marantz NR-1606. Please give jdsmoothie a call and ask as many questions you like. jdsmoothie is a stand up guy and wont sell something to you that you don't need. Also the pricing is quite competitive.

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I'm a bit confused regarding availability of the NR1606. Yesterday, I was on Amazon and it showed that you could pre-order the receiver and it would be available in 1-4 months. There are several vendors on there that sell through Amazon stating they already have it in stock.
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Well... My Onkyo NR905 is officially dead after 8 years and i'm pretty upset to have paid so much for so few years. The cost to fix it is over 600$ so time to move on and i'm looking at Marantz NR1605 at a very nice price of 599$ but the new one (1606) is coming next month..... Should i pull the trigger now or wait for the 1606? Reliability is an important factor for me...

thanks for any feed back...
I run an NR1605 in my second room (a 14' square conservatory) with a 4.1 speaker set up running a 120Hz crossover. It works very well in this room, but IHMO for a larger room and with bigger speakers I'm not so sure I'd bank on it being such a good choice.

I don't know what all the extra features over the NR1605 the newer NR1606 has, but I do know that one is Atmos, which obviously means more speakers. Personally, unless it's a very small room, with very efficient speakers then I wouldn't recommend such a low powered amp to run so many speakers. Also it only has pre outs for L/R channels so you don't have much option to offset the load to a separate power amp.

Since you rate reliability as an important factor then choosing an amp that is suitable for your intended use/room is also an important factor in which model you chose. If it's a small room, no Atmos and lower listening levels then fair enough the NR1605 is a good choice IMHO, but please be realistic (and I could say that applies to expecting 10+ years out of an AVR or any modern, built down to a price, electronic devices).

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Yup. Should arrive in the next 1-2 weeks.


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I'm a bit confused regarding availability of the NR1606. Yesterday, I was on Amazon and it showed that you could pre-order the receiver and it would be available in 1-4 months. There are several vendors on there that sell through Amazon stating they already have it in stock.
The NR1606 should be available within the next 1-2 weeks. Most vendors are simply taking pre-orders at this point.

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Yup. Should arrive in the next 1-2 weeks.




The NR1606 should be available within the next 1-2 weeks. Most vendors are simply taking pre-orders at this point.
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The NR1606 should be available within the next 1-2 weeks. Most vendors are simply taking pre-orders at this point.
Not sure how they can claim that if I purchase one, they will ship it out in 1-2 days, because this goes against Amazon's seller policy.
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Not sure how they can claim that if I purchase one, they will ship it out in 1-2 days, because this goes against Amazon's seller policy.
Some dealers may get their initial orders in earlier than other dealers.
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