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post #1591 of 12353 Old 11-03-2015, 08:46 AM
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Video isn't passing from your TV to the AVR, rather only audio so HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 has no bearing on your use case.
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@Stoked21 : bumping this in case you missed it the first time? First hiss and now HDMI issues...I just picked mine up this weekend but haven't installed it yet. I'll keep the thread posted with my findings as I'm planning to power 9 channels with two XPA-5's and I'm using Redmere on a long HDMI run to my 1080p projector.
Yep missed it.

By no means do I think the 7702 is responsible for the hiss.
I know it's primarily due to the crown amps. Having cut the gain and balanced them the hiss/buzz is all but gone. Hardly noticeable if at all (even with gain set at 75%).

I'm sure there is some noise and hiss associated with the 7702 as there will be in any piece of equipment. But it has to be so minimal and nothing compared to the den of snakes the crown amps can produce!!!

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Yep missed it.

By no means do I think the 7702 is responsible for the hiss.
I know it's primarily due to the crown amps. Having cut the gain and balanced them the hiss/buzz is all but gone. Hardly noticeable if at all (even with gain set at 75%).

I'm sure there is some noise and hiss associated with the 7702 as there will be in any piece of equipment. But it has to be so minimal and nothing compared to the den of snakes the crown amps can produce!!!

Thanks for the response. I'll let you know if I experience any of the issues you've reported thus far.
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@Stoked21 : bumping this in case you missed it the first time? First hiss and now HDMI issues...I just picked mine up this weekend but haven't installed it yet. I'll keep the thread posted with my findings as I'm planning to power 9 channels with two XPA-5's and I'm using Redmere on a long HDMI run to my 1080p projector.
Yep missed it.

By no means do I think the 7702 is responsible for the hiss.
I know it's primarily due to the crown amps. Having cut the gain and balanced them the hiss/buzz is all but gone. Hardly noticeable if at all (even with gain set at 75%).

I'm sure there is some noise and hiss associated with the 7702 as there will be in any piece of equipment. But it has to be so minimal and nothing compared to the den of snakes the crown amps can produce!!!
Not a reply to this post, but quoting this one because it's convenient, with your tuner, internet radio display issue, did you check that video select is set to off?
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Not a reply to this post, but quoting this one because it's convenient, with your tuner, internet radio display issue, did you check that video select is set to off?
Yep. It was off. If I set it to on, I can obviously see a video passthrough for selected input and access menus, setup etc. With it set to off, there's no video output whatsoever.
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7010 Discrete Codes

Does anyone know a link to the Discrete Codes for Marantz 7010 remote commands?

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Just set up my 7010. So far so good. Setup was a breeze. I'm running front heights and a normal 7.1 setup. I'm adding top heights in a week. The only thing that drives me nuts is audyssey kills my bass. I must like sloppy loud bass. I just crank up the sub channels 7 db then I'm happy.


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Just set up my 7010. So far so good. Setup was a breeze. I'm running front heights and a normal 7.1 setup. I'm adding top heights in a week. The only thing that drives me nuts is audyssey kills my bass. I must like sloppy loud bass. I just crank up the sub channels 7 db then I'm happy.


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I'm with you on the Audyssey bass! The Yamaha I just replaced---it dropped my subs by several db even when I had them turned to about a 4/10. I think it was like -6 or -7 db. Then I dropped them another several db, about -3db, cus they were just too over the top! I think I like a lot of bass and then I squashed it to keep it from booming too much. I still had a LOT of bass!

With Marantz, I have it turned up 6db higher than the Audyssey setting! It really is adverse to bass!
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What is a non apple based music player that works with the Marantz receivers(SR6010 specifically) I tried to connect my Sansa clip with no luck. I have A TON of lossless music, but no good way to play it.
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Also, lots of Marantz hdmi issues on the new models it seems. In addition to no gui/osd output on audio sources (with my 5 day old 7702mk2), last night it decided that HDMI 1 input needs to blink to black for 1-2 seconds every couple minutes. Similar issues to what others r seeing here on AVR versions. HDMI 3 with the cable stb seemed to fix it. I let it run for a long time and it started exhibiting that behavior periodically too. I tried 2 tvs and 2 different cables with both monitor outputs to no avail. My dealer is replacing the unit.

The hdmi issues with the new models is a concerning problem.
I have been thinking about purchasing a SR-7010 in the near future, but I do not want to purchase the unit if there are issues. Is the HDMI issues documented above isolated or is there a flaw with the unit?
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I have been thinking about purchasing a SR-7010 in the near future, but I do not want to purchase the unit if there are issues. Is the HDMI issues documented above isolated or is there a flaw with the unit?
I still think the marantz and denon lines r the best feature rich choices. Not being able to use dsu on dts discs was the only downfall which almost made me go Yamaha again. But the Yamaha was missing several nice features and had a cost of about $600 more. It's always a trade off somewhere.

I've read numerous people performing hard resets and having HDMI issues. It could be user error (though mine wasn't and I could be one of the fluke bad units). So idk. I'd be curious if Yamaha or pioneer models r exhibiting new HDMI board issues too. Regardless and ironically I'm still happy I switched knowing that this will get resolved and that I have a great dealer and a good warranty.

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I have been thinking about purchasing a SR-7010 in the near future, but I do not want to purchase the unit if there are issues. Is the HDMI issues documented above isolated or is there a flaw with the unit?
No issues with mine.
You should remember that people are more likely to post about their problems, and happy owners with no issues are quietly enjoying their systems
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No issues with mine.
You should remember that people are more likely to post about their problems, and happy owners with no issues are quietly enjoying their systems
I am quietly enjoying my 7702mkII, but had to due factory reset this a.m.

received my unit when they first became available.

Out of the clear blue sky could not get Uverse signal...slowly dwindled away while watching the last game of world series. Not a big deal (the reset that is....so long as you save your settings). However, re: uverse, I now get some of the movie channels coming in "picture framed" .
Never had this with any station before. Also, a few of my Blurays are being displayed in "picture framed" mode....whereas this was not the case a week ago. The particular blurays are my backup copies. Do not know if this has anything to do with it....but these same copies played without being "picture framed" before !!!
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What is a non apple based music player that works with the Marantz receivers(SR6010 specifically) I tried to connect my Sansa clip with no luck. I have A TON of lossless music, but no good way to play it.
I suspect that the most common non-Apple device would be an Android phone, which should be able to connect either as a USB mass storage device, or by running the Marantz or a generic BlueTooth / DLNA media streamer app. In theory, you should be able to connect a generic USB pen drive or even a USB hard drive with the audio files living in the root directory.

Playing lossless music on a computer connected via multichannel analog from a sound card, or via TOSLINK, or via HDMI all work fine. I've even seen a "Play to Marantz" entry in Windows Media Player which seems to do DLNA streaming, but that last seems to be a little more flaky.

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I honestly can't remember if I asked/got an answer for this yet, but here it goes again.

I'm using the Amp100 to power the rear heights and all seems to work well while playing content, but when I go to turn the power off (I've been using manual, as I tried the auto setting and it was not always triggering the amp to turn on with a signal, it was depending on the source and volume) there is sometimes a very low puff (if I turn off directly after playing content loud, it can be a bit louder. Not painfully loud, but somewhat concerning) emitting from the rear speakers.

Should I turn the volume knob down, or does that even matter? I have it maxed out right now. Also, I know it's not my cables or terminations causing it as I have tried them in other speakers and on the AVR itself.

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I honestly can't remember I asked/got an answer for this yet but here it goes again. I'm using an amp-100 to power the rear heights and all seems to work well while playing content, but when I go to turn the power off (I've been using manual, as I tried the auto setting and it was not always triggering the amp to turn on with a signal, it was depending on the source and volume) there is sometimes a very low puff (if I turn off directly after playing content loud, it can be a bit louder. Not painfully loud, but somewhat concerning).

Should I turn the volume knob down, or does that even matter? I have it maxed out right now. Also, I know it's not my cables or terminations causing it as I have tried them in other speakers and on the AVR itself.
If Audyssey has set the trim levels negative for that channel, you've got room to turn down the gain on the amp-100 some, and probably reduce the noise when you power it down.

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If Audyssey has set the trim levels negative for that channel, you've got room to turn down the gain on the amp-100 some, and probably reduce the noise when you power it down.
Ya audyssey has the levels around -8 or so from the -12 mark. So maybe halfway to 3/4 on the amp then?
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I have been thinking about purchasing a SR-7010 in the near future, but I do not want to purchase the unit if there are issues. Is the HDMI issues documented above isolated or is there a flaw with the unit?
Most of HDMI issues are related to cabling. See post number 1,575 on a simple test to check if the HDMI cable being used can carry the data required. See also post number 1,545 on standard checks that should be performed on HDMI cables.

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Regarding the Oppo, I know there are Oppo fanboys. But I'm thinking that the Oppo DACs can't be that much more superior to the flagship Marantz DACs, and I might as well let the 7010 do the decoding. People buy the Oppos primarily for the DACs (or the RS-232), but with the 7010, I don't really see the advantage to a $500 Oppo, over a ~$100 Sony.
So does anyone have an opinion on Oppo DACs vs the Marantz DACs in the 7010?
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So does anyone have an opinion on Oppo DACs vs the Marantz DACs in the 7010?
Although the Oppo DAC is likely superior, the majority of Oppo owners seem to prefer using Audyssey and for that the connection must be by HDMI, digital, or analog, while some prefer using the Oppo DACs for music listening, connecting via the multi analog outputs from the Oppo to the Marantz which disengages Audyssey.

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SR6010 issues

I have a few strange issues with a newly purchased SR6010.

1. If I am using online music then switch to SAT/CBL input for DirecTV (mini genie client), I can see video but no audio. Only way to get audio is to power cycle the 6010.

2. Bluetooth pairs successfully and shows connected. When using Spotify using Bluetooth I can see the on-screen display but no audio.

3. After factory reset I can no longer see the 6010 as a Spotify Connect device.

Are these known issues. Getting in touch with Marantz support has been painful. Still on hold.
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I have a few strange issues with a newly purchased SR6010.

1. If I am using online music then switch to SAT/CBL input for DirecTV (mini genie client), I can see video but no audio. Only way to get audio is to power cycle the 6010.

2. Bluetooth pairs successfully and shows connected. When using Spotify using Bluetooth I can see the on-screen display but no audio.

3. After factory reset I can no longer see the 6010 as a Spotify Connect device.

Are these known issues. Getting in touch with Marantz support has been painful. Still on hold.
1. HDMI handshake issues are common with all brands. Try changing channels or using a power on sequence, that is TV, wait 5 secs, AVR, wait 5 secs, source device.
2. Try using Spotify Connect instead as designed.
3. Factory reset wipes out all settings, so you may have to register the AVR with Spotify again.
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1. HDMI handshake issues are common with all brands. Try changing channels or using a power on sequence, that is TV, wait 5 secs, AVR, wait 5 secs, source device.
2. Try using Spotify Connect instead as designed.
3. Factory reset wipes out all settings, so you may have to register the AVR with Spotify again.
Marantz said to do a network reset and try it again. If that doesn't correct itself I will box up and return it to the retailer
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Yes. BIG Difference.

When you set the Subwoofer Level Adjust to ON, it immediately changes the subwoofer level to 0db (which for the vast majority is raising it anywhere from -8db to 0db), while using the recommended Manual Setup - Test Tones - Subwoofer will make the setting change from whatever was set after running Audyssey globally for all sources. The other recommended Subwoofer adjustment is the Option - Channel Level Adjust - Subwoofer in which case the change is +/-12db from whatever is set in Manual Setup and then only applies to that particular source.
Thanks for that info but I am still a bit confused. I re-rean Audyssey last night and have attached screen shots of the settings Audyssey came up with. Changes I made after the fact:
- I changed the front from large to small
- I changed sub2's distance to equal sub1. In fact, when entering this screen I got the error that the distance was out of limits (yet it set it). I realize I have to play with this a bit more.
- I bumped Sub1 level and sub2 level up to -3db
- I changed all crossovers to 80Hz - then back to the original. For the content I was listening to (TV, Max Max Blue Ray and music), I didn't notice much of a difference. More playing to come
- WOW! I found the Audio/Subwoofer Level Adjust screen. The setting are what Audyssey came up with. How is this different than adjusting the levels of the sub as I did above to -3db? Is this just for music? Does it take over the above setting?

Bass was real strong with these settings. IT wasn't bad, maybe a bit too strong. I want to understand the difference between adjusting the sub level in Speakers/Test Tone vs Audio/Subwoofer Level Adjust screen.

Lastly.. do you all use the movie and music buttons and exactly what do they do? Isn't just leaving the surround mode in Auto the same (assuming I want the native format)?

Many thanks!
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Thanks for that info but I am still a bit confused. I re-rean Audyssey last night and have attached screen shots of the settings Audyssey came up with. Changes I made after the fact:
- I changed the front from large to small
- I changed sub2's distance to equal sub1. In fact, when entering this screen I got the error that the distance was out of limits (yet it set it). I realize I have to play with this a bit more.
- I bumped Sub1 level and sub2 level up to -3db
- I changed all crossovers to 80Hz - then back to the original. For the content I was listening to (TV, Max Max Blue Ray and music), I didn't notice much of a difference. More playing to come
- WOW! I found the Audio/Subwoofer Level Adjust screen. The setting are what Audyssey came up with. How is this different than adjusting the levels of the sub as I did above to -3db? Is this just for music? Does it take over the above setting?

Bass was real strong with these settings. IT wasn't bad, maybe a bit too strong. I want to understand the difference between adjusting the sub level in Speakers/Test Tone vs Audio/Subwoofer Level Adjust screen.

Lastly.. do you all use the movie and music buttons and exactly what do they do? Isn't just leaving the surround mode in Auto the same (assuming I want the native format)?

Many thanks!
1. The Manual Setup - Test Tones is a "global" setting that applies across all sources. The Option - Channel Level Adjust applies only to that particular source selected with adjustments +/-12db from the Manual Setup global setting.

2. Yes, MOVIE or MUSIC, selecting the DD/DTS audio mode or DD + Dolby Surround (DD only). Once selected, the setting is remembered the next time that audio track is played.
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1. The Manual Setup - Test Tones is a "global" setting that applies across all sources. The Option - Channel Level Adjust applies only to that particular source selected with adjustments +/-12db from the Manual Setup global setting.
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Thanks! I get Test Tones is global. So far example, if I set the subs +3db above Audyssey's initial settings, I am running +3db hot. Now for clarification: if I am watching a Blue Ray and set CLA to +2db, I am getting a net of +5db on BLU RAY reference to Audyssey's initial setting. If I change to listen to music, I am back to +3db in ref to Audyssey's initial setting? I would then have to add the +2db if I felt it was needed? And same would hold if I watched something from satellite?

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Thanks! I get Test Tones is global. So far example, if I set the subs +3db above Audyssey's initial settings, I am running +3db hot. Now for clarification: if I am watching a Blue Ray and set CLA to +2db, I am getting a net of +5db on BLU RAY reference to Audyssey's initial setting. If I change to listen to music, I am back to +3db in ref to Audyssey's initial setting? I would then have to add the +2db if I felt it was needed? And same would hold if I watched something from satellite?
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What are all of you running for TV out into the receiver? Forgot to hook that up and get no audio on Netflix via internet TV.
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What are all of you running for TV out into the receiver? Forgot to hook that up and get no audio on Netflix via internet TV.
Most reliable connection would be to connect an optical cable from the TV's optical audio output to the OPT1 (TV Audio) input on the AVR. Then simply select the "TV Audio" button on the AVR remote when you want to listen to the TV's smart app audio on the AVR. The other option is to use HDMI(ARC) passing the TV audio back through the HDMI cable that connects the AVR to the TV. Ensure HDMI-CEC is enabled on both the TV and the AVR (HDMI Control) and the HDMI cable from the AVR is connected to the HDMI input on the TV labeled (ARC) as there is generally only one.
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Just got my sr7010. When i start a movie, or try to play music, there is no bass coming from my woofer. I have an SVS sb13-ultra. I have ran Audessy, and the sub gave out sound. Any ideas of what might have happened, and possible solutions?
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