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post #1681 of 12331 Old 11-09-2015, 07:01 AM
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My Marantz SR5010 keeps dropping the internet connection. "Router: OK" "Internet: ERROR". Some days it works great then others it just cannot connect online anymore. It is currently on Wifi but also happens with Ethernet. I have to toggle Wifi off and then on (or vice versa for Ethernet) then Internet shows OK, but when I try to use it I get static and glitching when I stream audio. When this happened last I did a factory reset and it worked great for about 2 weeks, and now it's happening again. Am I the only one? Could this be fixed by Firmware maybe? I really don't want to take it to get serviced, as the nearest service center is very far away.

I don't recall this happening before the latest firmware update, so I feel like that caused it.

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My Marantz SR5010 keeps dropping the internet connection. "Router: OK" "Internet: ERROR". Some days it works great then others it just cannot connect online anymore. It is currently on Wifi but also happens with Ethernet. I have to toggle Wifi off and then on (or vice versa for Ethernet) then Internet shows OK, but when I try to use it I get static and glitching when I stream audio. When this happened last I did a factory reset and it worked great for about 2 weeks, and now it's happening again. Am I the only one? Could this be fixed by Firmware maybe? I really don't want to take it to get serviced, as the nearest service center is very far away.

I don't recall this happening before the latest firmware update, so I feel like that caused it.
What brand/model modem/router are you using? If it is a dual band (2.4Ghz, 5Ghz) model, check to make sure it is set to "Legacy" or "Mixed" so that the AVR can use the 2.4Ghz band.
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That's a great suggestion. My router is an ASUS RT-N56u and does output both at 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz bands. I have each band with a different SSID, so I know it's connecting to only the 2.4Ghz as the 5Ghz band doesn't even show up. I think that would take care of the legacy problem. So strange. I have no issues with Wifi with any other device on my network. The router is also very close by, and the receiver shows 100% signal strength. When it works it works amazing, but now it's in it's off phase where it's stubbornly not connecting to the internet and my Marantz Android app no longer sees it.

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The SR6010 can satisfy all of your requirements except streaming audio "to" a set of Bluetooth headphones (which no Denon or Marantz unit can do), rather to do so you would need to purchase a 3rd party Bluetooth transmitter.

Just wanted to help in clarifying this for the Marantz SR6010
-So I can have a guest play PS4/Wii U in the main room (5.1), Zone 1
-Watch TV in the bedroom (Audio/Video) piped to 2 separate speakers, HDMI Zone 2
-Listen to Music (2 Channel Stereo) in the Patio, Zone 2 Audio Only

Can I do this all at the same time w/ the help of External Amps and/or Internal Amps ???
Just needed help in spelling it out since I am going for a similar setup
If thats the case than that is great since I thought Zone 2 was Zone 2 and there wasn't 2 Zone 2's ( Hdmi Zone 2 & Audio Zone 2 ) ....yeah confusing lol

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Just wanted to help in clarifying this for the Marantz SR6010
-So I can have a guest play PS4/Wii U in the main room (5.1), Zone 1
-Watch TV in the bedroom (Audio/Video) piped to 2 separate speakers, HDMI Zone 2
-Listen to Music (2 Channel Stereo) in the Patio, Zone 2 Audio Only

Can I do this all at the same time w/ the help of External Amps and/or Internal Amps ???
Just needed help in spelling it out since I am going for a similar setup
If thats the case than that is great since I thought Zone 2 was Zone 2 and there wasn't 2 Zone 2's ( Hdmi Zone 2 & Audio Zone 2 ) ....yeah confusing lol
No, rather each zone can only play one source at a time. For your 3 zone use case, you would need to upgrade to the SR7010 or Denon X4200W.
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Thanks, for clearing that up. 7010 has too much of a price difference.
So I can play Zone 1 and Zone 2 (Either HDMI or Audio ) at the same time just not all 3 since I can only have 1 source for Zone 2 at a time...Correct ?

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Caught the upgrade bug (primary, I want Audyssey and DSD support would be nice).

My current setup consists of a Sherbourn PT-7030 processor and a massive Sherbourn 7/2100a amplifier. I'm not suspecting many will have experience with the later, but I'm debating upgrading just the processor (to a 7702 MK II) or whether I should swap both out in favour of a single receiver (SR7010). Anyone wager a guess to how the amplifiers in the SR7010 might stack up against the older Sherbourn design? My speakers all all efficient (98db for the LCR and 94 for the surrounds).

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Thanks, for clearing that up. 7010 has too much of a price difference.
So I can play Zone 1 and Zone 2 (Either HDMI or Audio ) at the same time just not all 3 since I can only have 1 source for Zone 2 at a time...Correct ?
Correct.
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Caught the upgrade bug (primary, I want Audyssey and DSD support would be nice).

My current setup consists of a Sherbourn PT-7030 processor and a massive Sherbourn 7/2100a amplifier. I'm not suspecting many will have experience with the later, but I'm debating upgrading just the processor (to a 7702 MK II) or whether I should swap both out in favour of a single receiver (SR7010). Anyone wager a guess to how the amplifiers in the SR7010 might stack up against the older Sherbourn design? My speakers all all efficient (98db for the LCR and 94 for the surrounds).
That Sherbourn is overkill for your speakers ... the SR7010 should provide plenty of enough power should you decide to go that route.
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Caught the upgrade bug (primary, I want Audyssey and DSD support would be nice).

My current setup consists of a Sherbourn PT-7030 processor and a massive Sherbourn 7/2100a amplifier. I'm not suspecting many will have experience with the later, but I'm debating upgrading just the processor (to a 7702 MK II) or whether I should swap both out in favour of a single receiver (SR7010). Anyone wager a guess to how the amplifiers in the SR7010 might stack up against the older Sherbourn design? My speakers all all efficient (98db for the LCR and 94 for the surrounds).
Hi memmo,

If you have sub(s) to pass the energy intensive low frequencies, the SR-7010 will get you to reference level even if one sits 20' away from the LCR 98dB/W/m speakers.

Should you wish to go for the full 7.1.4 Dolby Atmos speaker configuration, then an external 2-channel amp is required as the SR-7010 has only nine internal amps. For the external amp, you have a choice of either:
(a) A beefier amp that will support 4 ohm loads to power the front left and front right speakers; or
(b) A smaller 50W/channel amp powering the Height 2 speakers.

The AV-7702mkII pre/pro has a better noise floor and XLR outputs that might help with any potential noise issues within your system.

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I finally had a chance to run Audessy but I have a few questions.

1. I had the gain on my 2 PCA S3000i subs set to 9oclock(As per Tom V's recommendation), but Audessy said they were too loud and requested I tuned them down until 75db was reached. I did so. Was this a mistake?

2. It set my subs to -10. Should I bump to -5- -3 or so?

3. After Audessy ran, it set my L/R to large, should I leave this? Or should they be small?

4. Under Spreakers/Bass it says "subwoofer mode" LFE or LFE+ main, what should this be set to? Also on this screen there is a setting "LPF for LFE it is 120hz

5. Lastly I was listening to bluetooth and I hit the "setup" button on the remote. A menu popped up(not a new screen) and it gave me the option to adjust the front L/R gain, and sub gain. I was playing around with this and it vanished and I couldn't get it to come back up..lol Hitting settings goes to the setting screen. WTF.

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I finally had a chance to run Audessy but I have a few questions.

1. I had the gain on my 2 PCA S3000i subs set to 9oclock(As per Tom V's recommendation), but Audessy said they were too loud and requested I tuned them down until 75db was reached. I did so. Was this a mistake?

2. It set my subs to -10. Should I bump to -5- -3 or so?

3. After Audessy ran, it set my L/R to large, should I leave this? Or should they be small?

4. Under Spreakers/Bass it says "subwoofer mode" LFE or LFE+ main, what should this be set to? Also on this screen there is a setting "LPF for LFE it is 120hz

5. Lastly I was listening to bluetooth and I hit the "setup" button on the remote. A menu popped up(not a new screen) and it gave me the option to adjust the front L/R gain, and sub gain. I was playing around with this and it vanished and I couldn't get it to come back up..lol Hitting settings goes to the setting screen. WTF.

Thanks for any help!
Hi AZtitan123,

Answers to your questions below.
1. Once you set the gain on the subs so the measured value by the Audyssey mic says 75dB, are you still getting -10dB for each sub channel? If so, then it is okay.

2. From -10dB on each sub channel, you can bump the bass up to what you feel is right. So -5dB or -3dB setting is a preference thing. The adjustments on the receiver is to be carried out for both sub channels.

3. Set the front L/R speakers to SMALL with an 80Hz crossover frequency setting.

4. Set subwoofer mode to just LFE. Leave the LPF for LFE at 120Hz.

5. All setting change should be made via your remote and the monitor. Another option is to use the web browser if your receiver is connected to the router - hard wiring is recommended.

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Hi AZtitan123,

Answers to your questions below.
1. Once you set the gain on the subs so the measured value by the Audyssey mic says 75dB, are you still getting -10dB for each sub channel? If so, then it is okay.

2. From -10dB on each sub channel, you can bump the bass up to what you feel is right. So -5dB or -3dB setting is a preference thing. The adjustments on the receiver is to be carried out for both sub channels.

3. Set the front L/R speakers to SMALL with an 80Hz crossover frequency setting.

4. Set subwoofer mode to just LFE. Leave the LPF for LFE at 120Hz.

5. All setting change should be made via your remote and the monitor. Another option is to use the web browser if your receiver is connected to the router - hard wiring is recommended.
Thanks for the help.

Yes I got -10 after setting the gain to reach 75db and running audessy.


As for #5 . I was using the menu on my TV. As I said I hit "setup" and a little menu popped up, and gave me the ability to play with some settings. I set the sub up quite high, then the screen vanished and have not been able to repeat it.lol Now the bass is really high on the bluetooth setting. I guess I will have to mess with it some more.
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I was considering the 7702mkII. It was on the Best Buy web site about a week ago. It showed avail to the local store of about 1 week or 3 days to get it if it was shipped to me.
Now if you do a search it does not show up.
If I go the last weeks link It says no longer available.
Any ideas if the has been a problem found with the 7702mkII that would make them take it off their web site??
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I was considering the 7702mkII. It was on the Best Buy web site about a week ago. It showed avail to the local store of about 1 week or 3 days to get it if it was shipped to me.
Now if you do a search it does not show up.
If I go the last weeks link It says no longer available.
Any ideas if the has been a problem found with the 7702mkII that would make them take it off their web site??
Call jdsmoothie on 585-645-1006 for a competitive quote as well as how to setup your AV-7720mkII with your system.

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There's a German review here, comparing some Atmos to non Atmos last gen models.
They also prefer the 6200 to the 7009:
https://translate.google.com.sg/tran...%2F&edit-text=

It seems that the 7009 was 'brighter' ?

I wonder if that's why there is talk that the sound in the 7010 was re-tuned..
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I was considering the 7702mkII. It was on the Best Buy web site about a week ago. It showed avail to the local store of about 1 week or 3 days to get it if it was shipped to me.
Now if you do a search it does not show up.
If I go the last weeks link It says no longer available.
Any ideas if the has been a problem found with the 7702mkII that would make them take it off their web site??
No issues that I am aware of. Best Buy is opening new Design Center stores to sell higher end equipment. They may have decided to sell it there instead.
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With my Atmos Yamaha, I use to run DSU for ALL sources....

With the 7702mk2 I did a workaround for DTS discs by having the player output PCM for DTS and bitstream for Dolby and I can at least use DSU for all BD now.

I ran some airplay music last night and saw that it was just running in 7.1 and the DSU was not an option......I loved listening to certain tracks with DSU on the Yamaha. Is this really not possible as well???

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Thanks for the info.

In my current setup, I was experiencing some noise when using the balanced outputs of the PT-7030 to the Sherbourn amp. I spent some time fiddling with power etc to see if I could solve it. Never really did. Switched to the unbalanced outputs into the Sherbourn amp and it went away almost entirely. Since I'm thinking about upgrading the processor anyway, I'm now considering the SR7010 -- perhaps get it, test it out using an amplifier and if I'm not happy, I could still use the pre-outs to the Sherbourn amp the way I'm doing now, correct? Any other limitations? I suppose I'd need to purchase some RCA to XLR to connect the sub outputs on the SR7010 to the Behringer iNuke.

In your opinion, how much difference might you expect if using the SR7010's pre-amp functions only (in conjunction with my current amp), vs going with the 7702?

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With my Atmos Yamaha, I use to run DSU for ALL sources....

With the 7702mk2 I did a workaround for DTS discs by having the player output PCM for DTS and bitstream for Dolby and I can at least use DSU for all BD now.

I ran some airplay music last night and saw that it was just running in 7.1 and the DSU was not an option......I loved listening to certain tracks with DSU on the Yamaha. Is this really not possible as well???
DSU should work with Airplay.
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Thanks for the info.

In my current setup, I was experiencing some noise when using the balanced outputs of the PT-7030 to the Sherbourn amp. I spent some time fiddling with power etc to see if I could solve it. Never really did. Switched to the unbalanced outputs into the Sherbourn amp and it went away almost entirely. Since I'm thinking about upgrading the processor anyway, I'm now considering the SR7010 -- perhaps get it, test it out using an amplifier and if I'm not happy, I could still use the pre-outs to the Sherbourn amp the way I'm doing now, correct? Any other limitations? I suppose I'd need to purchase some RCA to XLR to connect the sub outputs on the SR7010 to the Behringer iNuke.

In your opinion, how much difference might you expect if using the SR7010's pre-amp functions only (in conjunction with my current amp), vs going with the 7702?

Thanks!
1. Correct.
2. Nope.
3. Haven't seen any reviews comparing the two, but likely very similar.
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Anyone care to take an educated guess if next year's replacement for the SR6010 (the SR6011?) may include the AK4458VN DAC.

I haven't followed Marantz long enough to know how their "trickle-down" plan works. I figure since the AK4458VN was introduced this year in the SR7010, then next year it may find its way into receivers one tier down.
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Anyone care to take an educated guess if next year's replacement for the SR6010 (the SR6011?) may include the AK4458VN DAC.

I haven't followed Marantz long enough to know how their "trickle-down" plan works. I figure since the AK4458VN was introduced this year in the SR7010, then next year it may find its way into receivers one tier down.
Not likely no ... at least not until a 64bit DAC is released for the SR7010.
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The SR6010 can satisfy all of your requirements except streaming audio "to" a set of Bluetooth headphones (which no Denon or Marantz unit can do), rather to do so you would need to purchase a 3rd party Bluetooth transmitter.
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Not likely no ... at least not until a 64bit DAC is released for the SR7010.
I was a little surprised to discover that the Denon X4200W (which sells for less than Marantz 6010) has the same 32-bit DAC (the AK4458VN) as the Marantz 7010.

I would have thought that D&M would have upgraded the 6010's 24-bit DAC at the same time they upgraded the X4200W's.

I realize it's probably misguided to focus on one component. I'm trying to stop. But between the 6010 and the X4200W, would you predict that one sounds better than the other?

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D&M have done a clever job mixing up the components and features, so you cannot find an exact equivalent between the two lines. Think of both model ranges as a continuous line, and buy accordingly.
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I was a little surprised to discover that the Denon X4200W (which sells for less than Marantz 6010) has the same 32-bit DAC (the AK4458VN) as the Marantz 7010.

I would have thought that D&M would have upgraded the 6010's 24-bit DAC at the same time they upgraded the X4200W's.

I realize it's probably misguided to focus on one component. I'm trying to stop. But between the 6010 and the X4200W, would you predict that one sounds better than the other?

1. In the USA, the MSRP of the X4200W ($1499) is $100 more than the SR6010 ($1399).
2. Although the SR6010 was upgraded with XT32, it's still considered as the sister model to the X3200W, while the X4200W is the sister model to the SR7010.
3. Better is generally always subjective. Many prefer the Marantz "SR" models with the HDAM pre-amps for 2CH music listening, but for movies/TV, the nod likely goes to the X4200W.
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Many prefer the Marantz "SR" models with the HDAM pre-amps for 2CH music listening, but for movies/TV, the nod likely goes to the X4200W.
Is HDAM limited to 2ch only? If yes, is it limited to the RCA input? Is HDAM applicable in HDMI or digital audio?
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Speaking as an SR6010 owner (have no experience with any current Denon products) I can state that the Marantz will perform on par with an entry level SSP (the Marantz replaced an Emotiva UMC-200) when used as a two-channel preamp; at least in my system.

What I can say, beyond any doubt, was that adding a 2nd subwoofer and XT32 vastly improved my sonic experience for movies/television.

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1. In the USA, the MSRP of the X4200W ($1499) is $100 more than the SR6010 ($1399).
2. Although the SR6010 was upgraded with XT32, it's still considered as the sister model to the X3200W, while the X4200W is the sister model to the SR7010.
3. Better is generally always subjective. Many prefer the Marantz "SR" models with the HDAM pre-amps for 2CH music listening, but for movies/TV, the nod likely goes to the X4200W.

Thanks for the response.

1. Even though the MSRP of the X4200W is $100 more than the SR6010, several authorized dealers are selling the X4200w for $100 less than the SR6010.

3. Would you say that is because some prefer the sound of the Marantz, but the Denon is preferred by some for HT because of its additional watts per channel? Given how similar their features are, I can't think of any other reason someone would prefer the Marantz for 2-channel music but the Denon for HT.

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